Are Other Christians Not True Churches?


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Here is the claim of the present pope, Pope Benedict XVI posted on Forbes.com last July 10, 2007:

“Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.”

It takes a lot of misguided guts and false courage to claim that your church is the only true church; and those outside it, do not have the “means of salvation” as what the present Roman pontiff claims. Although the Second Vatican Council, which was approved by two of his predecessors, Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI, said that the Scriptures or the Holy Bible should guide the theological and the devotional life of the Catholic Church, this seems to be just a camouflage of the erroneous belief of the RCC. Why? The official Bible of the Roman Catholic Church states that:

(1 Corinthians 5:13) “For them that are without, God will judge. Put away the evil one from among yourselves.” DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION

Even the most holy of the Roman pontiff (if there be one) does not have any right judging those outside the church, granting (without accepting) that the RCC is the true church. God judges those that are without or outside the church of the Bible.

This claim is highly unscriptural, considering the fact that the RCC has not reached all nations of the world in its almost 2 millennia of history. Justice and equity calls for love and compassion. We do not have the right to judge people to whom we have not yet shared the truth. The apostolic teaching is, those who were not reached by the preaching of the gospel, but are doing the things contained in the law, even if they have not yet heard the law, they will be justified.

(Romans 2:11:15) “For there is no respect of persons with God. For whosoever have sinned without the law shall perish without the law: and whosoever have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law. For not the hearers of the law are just before God: but the doers of the law shall be justified. For when the Gentiles, who have not the law, do by nature those things that are of the law; these, having not the law, are a law to themselves. Who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness to them: and their thoughts between themselves accusing or also defending one another…”

What is apostolic, is to believe that there is justification (or salvation) for those who, while they have not heard the law, but are doing the things contained in the law written by God in their conscience, God is fair, compassionate, and just (not like all the popes in Rome who carelessly judge those outside their church). God can save even those who have no faith.

(1 Timothy 4:10) “For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those that believe.”

Notice the phrase “especially of those that believe. God can save even those who are incapable of believing.

Can a child or a babe have faith? Can a moron, a Mongoloid, or a mentally retarded believe?

(Hebrews 5:13) “For every one that useth milk is unskillfull in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.”

But God can definitely save them — even if they do not join the Catholic Church. In fact, the very recent findings (but very much delayed biblically) of the International Theological Commission (ITC) said that babies who died without baptism will go to heaven, thus, belying the centuries-old erroneous, non-apostolic and non-biblical belief of limbo. This pope is certainly not of a sound memory. He forgot the most famous and influential product of the Second Vatican Council (Lumen Gentium 8).

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Are babies born of Jewish and non-Christian parents qualified to enter heaven? If they are, then they are not members of the Catholic Church, so, the conclusion of the pope that outside the RCC has “no means of salvation” is false! God has it, because He is the only qualified judge and not anybody else outside of The True Church; which certainly is not the Roman Catholic Church, because its teachings are not apostolic.

If the teachings of a church are apostolic, they must conform to the most fundamental apostolic teachings in the Bible. They must be written in apostolic epistles or books. We must learn them directly from the writings of the apostles!

(1 Corinthians 4:6) “But these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollo, for your sakes: that in us you may learn that one be not puffed up against the other for another, above that which is written. “ DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION

Accepting any teachings not written by the apostles like limbo and purgatory is being non-apostolic!

(1 Corinthians 5:13) “For them that are without, God will judge…”

Remember, God will judge and not the pope!

So, is the statement of Pope Benedict XVI, that other Christians outside the Roman Catholic Church are not true Christians, biblically correct? I vehemently disagree!

We will prove in another article that Catholicism is not Christianity.

 

God Bless.

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66 thoughts on “Are Other Christians Not True Churches?

  1. Yipee yehey!!! well this is the beauty of this blog to identify which is the “TRUE CHURCH” using bible as the point of reference, once and for all lets scrutinize this article (see the light behind the truth) and see for yourself & witness the only “Sensible Preacher” in our borrowed time!!!

    Carry-on Bro Eli with God’s help and mighty hands continue the fight…..Let the six billion people in this world hearken in God’s calling!

    Peolple of God go out of Babylon!!!……….KKTK/B-BAYAN

  2. There are many teachings in the Roman Catholic Church that are in direct conflict with what God wants. The very much known and ‘followed?’ Ten Commandments have been changed by the RCC.

    As is written in Exodus Chapter 20

    4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

    5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,

    You cannot see that for it has been changed in their doctrines.

    Aren’t those housed in their great cathedrals idols?

    If they truly are the “one true church”, will they not follow that commandment (among many other commandments) of the Lord?

    In Romans chapter 2

    13 For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.

    For what I have known for over three decades of my life in the Roman Catholic Church, I’ve seen and experienced some of the most pagan rituals you can ever imagine. I’m talking about first hand experience here.

    I’m just glad that I am now out of that belief and am now praising, thanking and worshiping God the Father in spirit and in truth. For that I feel blessed.

    To God be the glory!

  3. we non-catholic also frequently claim that our teaching is better than catholic.
    some of us, non-catholic say bad think about Mary, Pope, and many other catholic teaching, i’m preatty sure.. we dont really know what the teaching really is.

    so, why are you so upset just because of one statement from catholic? while we already gave so many bad statements to them.

    beside, when you say this artcile is not christiant or whatever, aren’t you already “judging”? didn’t you say no one allowed to judge.

  4. AMEN!

    Catholic church and INCM are just the same proponent of satan’s machinery to mislead people.

    Thank be to God for having Bro. Eli in conveying the undefiled words of God. TO GOD BE THE GLORY!

  5. Isn’t that what the bible says about this church, “mystery, mother of harlots, woman sitting on a great beast”, many people didn’t know about it. My question is, when? not even an hour? I don’t know. God knows! I hope bro. Eli will have more time to enlighten them. ssD

  6. I was a born Catholic person, raised with Catholic beliefs and traditions. I go to the chuch almost every week and during first friday and somtetimes even on Wednesday. I never failed to attend the mass except when I am sick or things are beyond my control. I pick up flowers to place in front of Virgin Mary’s statue in our house to pray the rosary. I can say that I am a devoted one. My parents never explained to me the reasons behind all these, all I was taught was, what I am doing is for God and for my good. I noticed that while I am trying to be a good Catholic, children of my age starts teasing me, calling me ” Father or Bakla” because I don’t join with them in their almost daily dringking and smoking sessions which made them a problem to their parents. While I was a Catholic, I do not have a lot of friends…I do not know where to place myself…I am confused – When you want to be good, people mocks you ( you might go beyond heaven or overqualified to heaven that’s what they say), and if you are bad, you become a blacksheep in the family. I never read the Bible then, because what is instilled in our mind was – Bible is very hard to comprehend. I got my first grab of the Bible when after college, a freind of my mother gave her a New Testament – Ang Magandang Balita. I was very eager to read it and have not stopped reading until I finished the whole book. And that is the starting point of my search for the truth because I found out that what the Bible teaches contradicts the beliefs I was raised up to. After studying and joining various religious organizations, thanks God, he made me learned about Bro. Eli. Finally, the long search had been gone.

    Praise be to God !!!

  7. Claiming is one thing, proving is another thing.

    Most of the group that claims that they are the true church were denied by their acts. They condemn those persons that are not their members – is there any compassion in that?

    Some of this self-claimed true chrurch is acting like they already divided the heaven among themselves – like iglesia ni manalo. They claim that their church alone will be saved by their god that’s the promise that they are holding on to – but wait, isn’t it this group saying that their god can lie if he wants to? What if their god just lied on that instance?

    I strongly believe that the only TRUE CHURCH in this world is the one written in the bible which is THE Church of God. And we as gentiles made ourselves member of that church through the gospel. Adhering to the same truth that the first century Christians believed with.

    Are those non-members of this church condemned? It is up to God – I only know that if you’re a part of this True Church you have 100% of being save if you will obey the doctrines written in the bible. That’s my faith!

  8. To reply #4,

    Bro. Eli himself did not judge RCC. It’s the Bible that judge it that it’s not Christianity. Bro. Eli has basis in the Bible.

    You know, sometimes, the truth in the Bible hurts.

  9. But I appreciate my religious leaders statement that Limbo doent exist. at least he corrected a false teaching of my religion.

    anyway, It’s really bad to say that outside of my Church has no salvation. because they are even from the outside who will be saved on our Lord Jesus’ coming stated in some verses of Chapter 25 of Matthew. they doent know that what they are doing to their neighbors are tantamount of doing this to our Lord.

    so they are even who doent know God’s word but they did it already w/o a knowledge of it shall be saved.

  10. – #4

    1. You said, “i’m preatty sure.. we dont really know what the teaching really is.”

    For sure, there must be someone who knows what the real teaching is. Will God just abandon and leave His children without sending someone faithful who is able to teach others of His words? No!

    2 Timothy 2:2  And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

    2. You asked, “so, why are you so upset just because of one statement from catholic?”

    We are just very concerned with the souls of these people who still believe in catholicism, like in the time of Paul, when he found no one like him in mind who will naturally care for the their state.

    Philippians 2:20  For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

    3. You asked, “beside, when you say this artcile is not christiant or whatever, aren’t you already “judging”? didn’t you say no one allowed to judge.”

    Actually, there are. You just have to consider other facts within the bible.

    Matthew 7:4  Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
    5  Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

    …THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY CAST OUT THE BEAM IN THEIR OWN EYES FIRST.

    …THEY CLEARY SEE TO CAST OUT THE MOTE OUT OF OTHERS’ EYES.

  11. – #4

    In addition to my #1 answer:

    You just have to find that someone who is faithful. There is a promise.

    Matthew 7:7  ¶Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
    8  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

    You try spirits wheter they are of God.

    1 John 4:1  ¶Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    I would suggest, that in your search, don’t look too far.

    ITANONG MO KAY SORIANO, BIBLIA ANG SASAGOT!

  12. on 13 Jul 2007 at 6:02 am

    4 –
    we non-catholic also frequently claim that our teaching is better than catholic.
    some of us, non-catholic say bad think about Mary, Pope, and many other catholic teaching, i’m preatty sure.. we dont really know what the teaching really is.

    so, why are you so upset just because of one statement from catholic? while we already gave so many bad statements to them.

    beside, when you say this artcile is not christiant or whatever, aren’t you already “judging”? didn’t you say no one allowed to judge.

    may i remind you, whoever you are, that judging is different from objecting. brother eli and us is just objecting what catholic is teaching. judging according to the bible means it is condemnation to hell. and im sorry to say that we neither say nor teach to the people that catholic is already condemned to hell. i think you must examine critically the words we are using because we too, are careful in using words. remember, judging is different from objecting (either a principle, idea or just an allegation)

    on 13 Jul 2007 at 10:12 am6
    mombacho
    Man, why bother? We’ll all find out sooner or later, when we die. Until then, you could choose to do something constructive with your life…

    i dont know what you’re up to, but as i try to get your message, you are saying that brother eli is “destructing” somebody/something with his article, well i’ll tell you, a preacher of God has a duty to destroy not the flesh of his adversary nor their personal lives but to destroy the principles, ideas etc of each self proclaimed (not true) christians:

    (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds; ) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

    II Corinthians 10:4-5

    if i got your message wrong, then im sorry, i never meant to… -.-

  13. to #4,

    Actually, we are not judging the catholics from our own point of view, it is the bible where the words of God is written. From there, you can find and know that their doctrines is not based on the bible! It’s the intentions of the scriptures to teach, to correct, to make you know the will of God for you to reach perfection here while you live. Isn’t that a blessing for us. You can’t stop writing to correct and to make known that they are wrong just for one soul to be saved. I hope you got me right? ssD

  14. from that certain non catholic…

    so, why are you so upset just because of one statement from catholic? while we already gave so many bad statements to them.

    you know brother/sister, a single misleading word can bring you to damnation that’s why, we are very critical to every single wrong teaching of anybody calling themselves preacher/men/man/preachers of God. even saint Paul has the same principle as we are:

    To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

    Galatians 2:5

    as saint Paul said, they gave no place for subjection even for just an hour just to make the truth of the gospel continue. so regardless of what you are so called “while we already gave so many bad statements to them”, although i never believe in my entire life that saying an objection to something which is really wrong/bad is evil, it is for a purpose that somebody there in the catholic might understand that they are indeed in a mislead church, lead by a mislead preacher, teaching misleading doctrines and making people a candidate (if not 100 %) to hell.

  15. To “MOBACHO”

    “WHY BOTHER?! We’ll find sooner or later when we die.”
    …..Oh i feel sorry for you, it seems you’re not preparing for the final event of human history! Do u believe in God?; How about judgment?; How about hell??!it seems u believe”RE-ENCARNATION” thats only man’s Philosophy!

    If some stupid people will follow your line of reasoning and sit around (happy go lucky) and will eat,drink & be merry! and waiting unwittingly,,oh woe to those people!!! they’re similar to a hog or pig ready to be slaughtered…, whew! thats terrible, nightmare of all nightmares!!…most probably they’ll be in accord with u in HELL, (SORRY ABOUT THAT!) YOU KNOW SEARCHING THE GENUINE CHURCH IS VERY MUCH IMPORTANT! IT IS OUR CREATOR OR GOD HIMSELF WHO FOUNDED THAT, INTENDED TO ALL HIS PEOPLE (bec. God is not a non-sense God, He did not established Church for nothing and its our main obligation to search for that CHURCH)..Findind true Church means SALVATION and we are capable of finding it here.There’s no alibi and excuses…….. 🙂

  16. …so, why are you so upset just because of one statement from catholic? while we already gave so many bad statements to them.——#4

    to #4,

    Well, I can’t just pass this statement of yours without having to say that the bible doesn’t say us to be upset but it’s more intense act is to be done. Spiritual battle is going on between camp of Satan and the camp of God. On the side of God we have to crashed the head of the Serpent. Topple down their strongholds. No peace treaty required. There no middle “uzisero”. No mercy feeling towards the enemy of God. You’re either white or black, good or bad. Otherwise, you loose because there’s no more much time to save everyone. The enemy is working very hard day and night to kill mankind. We can’t be soft and loose the battle. You decide now! Don’t waste your time. Don’t hide yourself. Fight a good fight until your end…….ssD

  17. quote from: “mombacho

    Man, why bother? We’ll all find out sooner or later, when we die. Until then, you could choose to do something constructive with your life…”

    mombacho,

    why would we wait for our death, if we can find it out while were still living. makes more sense right?

    finding salvation and truth is constructive. and i think you’re not doing it. so i guess your not doing something constructive in your life.

  18. The Pope is truly out of his mind. Maybe they should learn more about the Bible from Bro. Eli Soriano.

    To all Popes, Archbishops and Bishops of the Roman Catholic Church, please read the Bible and open your eyes and minds.

    Bro. Eli Soriano is here to be an instrument of salvation to people who are mislead by false prophets and false churches.

    To God be the glory!

  19. Now I really am sure of a few things…

    I’ve been waiting for a post like this. Thank you…

    I Corinthians 12:12

    “For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.”

    I hope other brethrens will understand this as well.

  20. Mr. Soriano,

    It seems to me that the above post is a wasted post. Had you only referred to the the original official text (which can be found here: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070629_responsa-quaestiones_en.html) instead of relying on a Forbes article, you will see that the document never presumed God’s judgment on anyone while re-asserting its claim that the church of Christ subsists in the Catholic church.

    The document states:

    “It is possible, according to Catholic doctrine, to affirm correctly that the Church of Christ is present and operative in the churches and ecclesial Communities not yet fully in communion with the Catholic Church, on account of the elements of sanctification and truth that are present in them. Nevertheless, the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe… in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.”

    While you have Biblical commentaries that are quite insightful and are appreciated by this Catholic, your consistent choice not to give the Catholic teaching its just analysis before you react is grieving.

  21. NO.4 GOOD DAY TO YOU!

    I BELIEVE YOU SHOULD INVESTIGATE MORE ABOUT THE WORD”JUDGING”…….

    WHEN SOMEONE PICKS A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE….AND ANOTHER IS PRICKED BY THAT VERSE…….WHAT DO SAY?

    IS THAT JUDGING TO YOU?

    OR IS IT JUST MERELY POINTING OUT WHAT IS WRITTEN….THAT THE INNOCENTS MAY KNOW?

    IF ONE SAYS OUCH BECAUSE OF A VERSE……
    DONT YOU THINK THAT ONE HAS A WOUND AND THE WOUND GOT PRICKED?AND THAT MADE HER OR HIM CRY…OUCH!?

    FOR IF ONE DOESNT HAVE A WOUND…..WHY WOULD HE OR SHE BLEED?

    IT IS JUST LOGICAL….BE OBSERVANT….PLEASE ANALYZE….
    STUDY THE VERSE…..
    JUST ACCEPT IT…IN YOUR HEART…AFTERALL,IT IS WRITTEN

    EVEN IF IT HURTS…..IF YOU ACCEPT THAT IT WAS SPOKEN BY GOD OR BY GOD THRU THE PROPHETS OR APOSTLES OR THRU HIS SERVANTS……BY THE PROOF OF IT BEING WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE…….
    .THEN IT SHALL BE GOOD FOR YOU…….IN THE END…….
    FOR IT SHALL OPEN YOUR EYES….THAT INDEED….GOD’S WORD IS TRUTH……

    REMEMBER……IN THIS WORLD…THERE’S JUST A SINGLE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT BRINGS TRUE WORD OF GOD……
    THE PROOF?……THEY ARE ALL WRITTEN.!

    THEY…..THE VERSES…..THE WORD OF GOD ARE MERELY READ BEFORE US……….CAN WE BE DECEIVED?

    ONLY….IF WE DONT READ THE BIBLE AND REMAIN IGNORANT OF THE FALSE PROPHETS FOREWARNED BY CHRIST.

    IT IS CHRIST WHO SAID…………MAT 24:4-5 BEWARE OF FALSE CHRISTS!……HOW DO U KNOW THE TRUE CHRIST BEING PREACHED AMONG THESE FALSE CHRISTS???????

    IT IS THROUGH THE DOCTRINES AS CHRIST GAVE US LEAD….

    JOHN 7:17-1817If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

    18He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him

    PLEASE BE PATIENT….IT IS A VIRTUE…..STUDY THE SCRIPTURES WITH BRO.ELI……READ YOUR OWN BIBLE WHILE YOU READ THE BLOG…..AND BETTER TO OPEN THIS WEB……..BIBLEGATEWAY.COM…AND SEE IF THE VERSES ARE TRULY WRITTEN……THAT YOU MAY NOT BE DECEIVED……

    PEACE OF GOD BE UNTO YOU…

  22. Not all are christian beacause not all are choosen to be. There can be only one true christian today that have existed…That is …
    And you know the rest!!!….

  23. To Kay of #24+

    You remarked “…While you have Biblical commentaries that are quite insightful and are appreciated by this Catholic, your consistent choice not to give the Catholic teaching its just analysis before you react is grieving.”

    It is good that you find some of Bro. Eli’s biblical commentaries as insightful. It shows you are open to new learnings and your effort of reading this blog shows you are searching for the Truth. But when you say that it grieves you when Bro. Eli’s not giving the catholic teaching its just analysis before reacting is grieving to you… let me tell you and attest that Bro. Eli’s intent is to show what is right and correct based on the scriptures and teachings of Christ.

    Being Christian means we abide all doctrines taught by Jesus Christ. Even if it would seem so difficult, if you have the will to follow Him, Christ would help us do so. There is pain in changes and development. For example, a decayed tooth must be extracted to be replaced with a healthy tooth. If you do not removed it, other teeth might get affected badly. There is really pain in the process of development and progress – physically & spiritually.

    Keep on reading the bible and searching, compare doctrines of different churches if you must, including the doctrines that Bro. Eli brings to us. See if the teachings of the different preachers of our times are indeed contained in the doctrines of Christ. And pray to God that He gives you the spirit to understand the scriptures.

    Matthew 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and
    His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you.

  24. to Kay;

    Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe… in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.”

    YOU’RE TELLING US THAT THE ONE CHURCH SUBSISTS IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ARE YOU SPECIFYING THE CHURCH OF GOD WHICH CHRIST THOUGHT US? OR THE CHURCH THAT YOUR POPE THOUGHT YOU?, I’VE BEEN A CATHOLIC SINCE BIRTH AND I NEVER DID SEE THAT THE CHURCH OF GOD EXISTED IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IF YOU WILL REALLY OPEN YOUR MIND TO THE DOCTRINES THAT CHRIST IS TEACHING AND NOT OF THE POPES ARE TEACHING THE MEMBERS OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. IT IS VERY MUCH MISLEADING IF YOU WILL BASE IT IN THE BIBLE AND INCLUDING ALL THOSE FANCY DARK HISTORY OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND POPES WHO KILLED HUNDERED OR MAYBE MILLIONS OF LIVES INCLUDING THE FILIPINO’S WHO FOUGHT FOR OUR COUNTRY DURING THE SPANISH ERA.

  25. Peter, you are a pebble

    July 14th, 2007 – No Responses

    Below is one of my comments found in the post of UKOK entitled, The One True Church- The Catholic Church:

    And for your information, the authority of your Pope was just enforced by the Roman Empire.

    They killed Peter, and I think even St Paul.

    And who are you to say that Peter was the rock mentioned by Jesus Christ?

    Jesus has prophesied already that Peter shall be used as a rock, but Peter is a pebble.

    Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

    …22Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

    23But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

    Jesus Christ is the Rock. He is the foundation of Christianity not Peter. And now, the prophecy is correct, Catholics believe that Peter is the Rock.

    Isn’t correct that St Paul is the minister to the gentiles?

    Aren’t you a gentile? Is St Peter a gentile? How can Peter ministers to the gentile when the authority is not given to him but rather to St Paul?

    The other Jews did not accept Jesus Christ. And we are not Jews. How come we will have a jew pope? Why should there be someone to call pope on earth?

    Matthew 23:

    5″Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them ‘Rabbi.’

    8″But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.

    9And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. 10Nor are you to be called ‘teacher,’ for you have one Teacher, the Christ. 11The greatest among you will be your servant. 12For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

    13″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.

    15″Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are

    The Holy bible, even from the old and new testament states that the Church is called the Church of God, and even written and explained by St Paul.

    1 Corinthians 1
    1Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,

    2To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:

    3Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    The reason why your administration changed the name of the church to Roman Catholic is to fool people, AND to make them believe that the Pope is the representation of God on earth.

    All of you are hypocrites, even if you know your Catholic church history, you are blindy following your MOther church! YOu are making each of your brothers a hypocrite thus and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are! I never seen in the Philippines that catholic officials are excommunicated when found guilty of graft and corruption. I never seen even one of those in the highest position gets excommunicated for having so many wives.

    Please visit esoriano.wordpress.com for more biblical analysis.

  26. #24

    To you kay,

    None of bro elis post goes wasted kay, it was actually your comment, your pope and your Roman Church were the wastes and are awfully stinking here. If you’ll just open up your mind and look back on your Roman Catholic history and see what they did to the millions of people they hanged, burned alive, and tortured all over the world you’ll not gonna react that way…

    I suggest you do a little google around before punching any comments here…

    =)

  27. A RESPONSE to comment #24 KAY (a Catholic)

    I personally, can empathize with your feelings when you have read Bro. Eli’s article that exposes wrong doctrines of what you have taught to be an infallible church.
    That is what the catholic pontiff claim, that the Catholic Church is infallible because, as your authorities reason, the Vicar of Christ cannot err in doctrine pertaining to salvation.

    But believing one thing is very different in realistic applications.

    First of all, never will Bro. Eli write a wasted post. In the contrary, your comment is what is wasted; for you let your personal hurt feelings distort your judgment.

    With the website that you sited with a URL, we see here the article that you quoted to oppose the blog of Bro.Eli in which he sited an article in Forbes.com which reads-

    “Pope Benedict XVI has REASSERTED the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.”

    Forbes.com last July 10, 2007:

    I have ENLARGED the word “reasserted” for all to notice. Granting with out accepting, that Bro. Eli did not (according to your own words in your posted comment) give just analysis to this Catholic doctrine, let us see and understand what does the current Pope mean when he said he is “reasserting” the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church?

    1st – this means this is not a new doctrine, but he is again emphasizing or reiterating it!!!
    It confirms with the old Catholic dogma and maxim –

    “Puera de la Iglesia Catolica sin salvacion”

    It simply means, out side the Catholic Church,
    there is NO SALVATION!
    This is an old doctrine, and this article by Pope Benedict is just emphasizing this age old belief.
    Just use plain common sense.
    Why was the Holy Inquisition even created in the first place?
    You answer that, Kay!

    What is this universal primacy of the C.C. (Catholic Church) that the Pope is “reasserting” ?

    Let us quote an article in the same website that KAY has cited;

    “It follows that these separated churches and Communities, though we believe they suffer from defects, are deprived neither of significance nor importance in the mystery of salvation. In fact the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as instruments of salvation, whose value derives from that fullness of grace and of truth which has been entrusted to the Catholic Church”[12].

    William Cardinal Levada
    Prefect

    Angelo Amato, S.D.B.
    Titular Archbishop of Sila

    Did you notice this? This is what we can call
    HYPOCRACY IN IT’S HIGHEST FORM!!!
    After saying that these other churches suffer from defects, they now claim that they are not deprived of salvation because “in the end” they will be “instruments” of salvation thru “values” derived from grace and truths “entrusted” to the C.C. !!!!!

    If really these churches derived their values from C.C. and there fore will be instruments of your
    “so called salvation” how come they have “defects?” How come you attack these churches, then say that they’re instruments of salvation? ARE YOU FOR REAL??
    How stupid can you be to accept this fallacy!!!

    1Th 2:3
    For our exhortation was not of deceit, nor of uncleanness, nor in guile:

    Paul emphasizes that authorities of the Christian faith
    DO NOT PREACH any deceitful, unclean and fallacious doctrines! In straightforward terms, there are no DEFECTS in the true church when it comes in doctrine! What is the result if one follows “defect full” or “erroneous” doctrine??

    2Pe 2:1
    ” But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.”

    So HERESIES i.e. DEFECTFULL is tantamount to DENYING CHRIST! How can a church who denies Christ be able to be a “instrument of salvation???”

    No KAY, Bro.Eli didn’t write a “wasted” post, he understands clearly what that “ reassertion” means.
    It means that the C.C. still believes that all fullness of truth and grace comes from her, which is an utterly outrageous claim! And all other so called “defective churches “according to the C.C. are “instruments” of her pessimistic standards of salvation!
    If these are “defective” churches, then there is no one to blame but the C.C.! Why? Because you claim that “THEY GOT THEIR VALUES FROM THE C.C.!!” How come they are defective??

    Job 14:4
    “Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.”

    SEE THIS VERSE? Let’s use biblical sense! If C.C. doctrines are clean and its values are the “fullness of truth and grace” (excuse me, but I cant help but be disgusted by this claim! Pwak!)
    If this is so, why did it produce defective churches? And “instruments” of salvation at that!!!

    Wow how stupid can you be to ingest this trash!!!

    HOW CAN A DEFECTIVE CHURCH, IN YOUR OWN WORDS BE INSTRUMENTS IN SALVATION???? This is pure hypocrisy just to cover and sweeten the appearance of the C.C.s doctrine that really, she believes that she is the “only true church” and therefore has the only right to preach salvation. THIS IS A BIG LIE AND SHOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED BY ANY LOGICAL THINKING BIBLICAL READER!

    It only proves futher that Bro.Eli is the only sensible preacher in our times, coz while I was reading the website of the Vatican, I ALMOST LOST ALL SENSE OF LOGIC AND SENSES! GOD FORBID!

  28. Dear Mr. Soriano,
    Something as simple as reading the document and faithfully and truthfully representing it you could not even do! But what should we expect?
    You even got the salvation commentary wrong!! Did you even read the document? I doubt. Read it again or have someone read it to you. You should fire your editors for missing the the point that was so explicit.
    God is the final judge, so we will just wait if your statements have any weight at all.
    May God have mercy on you when the time comes.

  29. we Need BRO.ELI 4 our SALVATION,I ADVISE,..read the bible and hear the teachings of Bro.Eli…if u nid the right Faith…GO WITH BRO.ELI…AS WE GO WITH HIM..GO.GO.GO…

  30. The true Church which is of God thrugh our Lord Jesus Christ is writen clearly in the verses of the Bible not only once, not twice but in many verses. wheather it is in parables or direct, or in latin, letra por letra, it is the CHURCH OF GOD and in the CHURCH OF GOD, there is true doctrines from inside tooutside, from head to foot and in from material at spiritual. we cannot read in the Bible the Iglesia Catolica Apostolica Romana (Chatholic Apostolic Church) and other Orthodox and Protestant churches. I believe that if we are looking for the true church, we can see it… from its Doctrines, leaders and even it’s Name.

    Wishing all the best With God’s help to the author of this blog.

    Thanks!!!

  31. “none of the wicked shall understand,”! -Daniel 12:9-10

    False religion makes camouflage –teaches whom they can only make fool because of unawareness. Knowledge from the Holy Scriptures doesn’t come from a years of study in any theological school. “Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marveled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.”
    The Acts 4:13
    King James Version

    The teachings of RCC doesn’t conform the teachings of apostleship, it’s a hoax to say that they are the true religion with their enormous wrong beliefs.
    We must perceive teachings ordained by God for our salvation, and who have it? –Daniel 12:9-10 “but the wise shall understand.”
    I believed, and found answers through the undefiled teachings of Brother Eli. To God be the glory!

  32. believing in tradition…

    paganism is tradition too. that’s what is happening to our country Philippines.
    people tend to believe to beliefs, man made tradition, luck etc. as what the catholics due.
    Philippines is the only Christian nation in the east merely by name but not by deeds…
    Thank God i’m a filipino in which i got to know Bro. eli…
    too lucky…
    SSD

  33. to Mr fryheretic

    and i thought #24 Kay deserves the title “The One Who Really Lost It “, but after reading your comment… man, you stripped her off of her title and wrapped yourself with it. Let me ask you this; did you even read the Vatican document? If you did, read it again and this time TRY HARD to understand it! And if still (poor you) weren’t able to see what this HYPOCRITICAL article means to imply… then read Bro Eli ‘s Blog again, for he only interpreted it for what it truly means.

  34. TO KAY AND FRYHERETICS,

    The truth is, whatever you have to say, your ROMAN APOSTOLIC CATHOLIC CHURCH is not the church in the bible, which christians have to cleave to.

    The apostle Paul belonged to the Church of God, according to the bible.

    2 Corinthians 1:1  ¶Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timothy our brother, unto the church of God which is at Corinth, with all the saints which are in all Achaia:

    And according to the bible, the preaching will come from Jerusalem, and not from rome.

    Luke 24:47  And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

    Your church is just a man-made invention. I wonder if you know just when your name came into being. Only in 1870!

    You can be a witness as to what kind of people, your church has produced since time immemorial. I was once a catholic for 23 years of my life since birth, too. And I have seen how rotten the system is.

    I suggest that you visit this site and witness how your cohort, MR. FROILAN GARZA, of the ST PETER’S MEN’S SOCIETY, HOPELESSLY defended your church.

    http://theoldpath.tv/videos.aspx#top

    And tell me afterwards, if that is the doctrine that you are very proud of. SHAME ON CATHOLICISM!

  35. TO KAY:

    (Nevertheless, the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe… in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.”)

    I believe that the “ONE CHURCH” you are mentioning is the church that our Lord Jesus Christ had established. As far as I understand the word “subsists”, it means “continue to exists”. Sad to say that your claim is the one which is waste and not Bro. Eli’s post. Let me prove my point. Catholic church is already a different entity separating to the Church which was establish by our Lord Jesus Christ by having a doctrines or teachings which is in contrast to the teachings inside the Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1. Our Lord Jesus Christ commanded us like this: call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. (Matthew 23:9). But the irony of it catholic priest used to call them by the catholic faithfuls as FATHER.
    2. In Matt 10:7-8 says and may I quote: (And as all of you go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely all of you have received, freely give). But in the catholic church, if you are going to apply for a marriage ceremony, the parish church officials will ask you if it is “SPECIAL or REGULAR” implying that if you choose SPECIAL, you are going to pay extra compare to REGULAR. Again, this is in full contrast with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    3. When Philip are going to officiate baptism to the eunuch, he asked for a certain requirement. The requirement his asking for the eunuch to be baptized was if he believe with all his heart. (Acts 8:37-38). But in catholic church, what requirement the catholic priest asking to those babies undergoing baptism? The only requirement I remember when I was then a catholic faithful is the payment receipt which was paid by the parents of those babies undergoing baptism in order to proceed the ceremony.
    4. In Rev 22:8-9 says and may I quote: (“I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”). The angel asked John not to worship him because he is just a fellow servant and admonished to worship God. But in catholic church, they used to worship Mary and pray before her as what they always uttered in their “Hail Mary Prayer”. There was also an account in the bible that Peter refused when somebody kneeling in front of him but I cannot recall the verse.

    There’s a lot more teachings of catholic church which is in full contrast with the teachings of the Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ. All these statements which I cited are not just an accusation. It is a reality happening inside the catholic church. Now, can you claim that the Church established by our Lord Jesus subsist in the catholic church? I don’t think so! Catholic church teachings are the adversary of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  36. TO KAY:

    (Nevertheless, the word “subsists” can only be attributed to the Catholic Church alone precisely because it refers to the mark of unity that we profess in the symbols of the faith (I believe… in the “one” Church); and this “one” Church subsists in the Catholic Church.”)

    I believe that the “ONE CHURCH” you are mentioning is the church that our Lord Jesus Christ had established. As far as I understand the word “subsists”, it means “continue to exists”. Sad to say that your claim is the one which is waste and not Bro. Eli’s post. Let me prove my point. Catholic church is already a different entity separating to the Church which was establish by our Lord Jesus Christ by having a doctrines or teachings which is in contrast to the teachings inside the Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1. Our Lord Jesus Christ commanded us like this: call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. (Matthew 23:9). But the irony of it catholic priest used to call them by the catholic faithfuls as FATHER.
    2. In Matt 10:7-8 says and may I quote: (And as all of you go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
    Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely all of you have received, freely give). But in the catholic church, if you are going to apply for a marriage ceremony, the parish church officials will ask you if it is “SPECIAL or REGULAR” implying that if you choose SPECIAL, you are going to pay extra compare to REGULAR. Again, this is in full contrast with the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    3. When Philip are going to officiate baptism to the eunuch, he asked for a certain requirement. The requirement his asking for the eunuch to be baptized was if he believe with all his heart. (Acts 8:37-38). But in catholic church, what requirement the catholic priest asking to those babies undergoing baptism? The only requirement I remember when I was then a catholic faithful is the payment receipt which was paid by the parents of those babies undergoing baptism in order to proceed the ceremony.
    4. In Rev 22:8-9 says and may I quote: (“I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, but he said to me, “You must not do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.”). The angel asked John not to worship him because he is just a fellow servant and admonished to worship God. But in catholic church, they used to worship Mary and pray before her as what they always uttered in their “Hail Mary Prayer”. There was also an account in the bible that Peter refused when somebody kneeling in front of him but I cannot recall the verse.

    There’s a lot more teachings of catholic church which is in full contrast with the teachings of the Church established by our Lord Jesus Christ. All these statements which I cited are not just an accusation. It is a reality happening inside the catholic church. Now, can you claim that the Church established by our Lord Jesus subsist in the catholic church? I don’t think so! Catholic church teachings are the adversary of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  37. I appreciate the responses to my comment and the spirit of Christian correction in which they are given. I understand your passion to defend the truth as you percieve it, as this similar passion is the same love I have for the Holy Roman Catholic Church. Though not all of the posts directed to me were polite and on-tangent, thank you.

    Yup, I do appreciate Mr. Soriano’s insights on non-doctrinal issues, particularly his premium on basic Christian values.

    I felt that the post was wasted because it’s essentially a “judge not” post (with verses that I can throw back at you as well!); a topic irrelevant to the document at hand because never did the writers argue that there is no salvation outside the Catholic church. Salvation is ultimately God’s power to grant and despite the fact that God granted the church to declare loose what must be declared loose, and bound what must be declared bound, we can never presume above His mercy. This is a position we have held for years. You must be confusing us with INC.

    Other churches are defective meaning lacking in apostolic authority, yes. We can argue day in and day out whether Peter is a rock or a pebble, but we cannot conveniently drop the verse where Christ handed Peter the keys to gates of heaven. Christ did institute apostolic authority.

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  39. to fryheretics,

    yes yes yes! wait till the time comes. let’s see what you are saying to bro. Eli. tsk tsk tsk. poor you if you don’t change your faith. remember what you have said to bro. eli, remember this that i had posted as a reply to you.

    but well, try to open your heart and mind. listen to bro. eli and read his articles, and you will be enlightened if you heart is not hard as a stone. okay?

  40. the word christian, means follower of Jesus Christ’s teachings, are they? they call the priest their father, but Crist says there’s only one Father, in heaven; they pray repetitious, but Christ says, pray to God the Father, alone in Christ’s name, not with so many saints with their graven images, so actually, they are in simple words, anti-Christ, because they don’t follow Christ’s teachings!

  41. fryheretics!!! Bro. Elli is not talking from himself but what he was preaching is always according to the bible. Unlike the other preachers now a days,was telling lies which are contradicting to the scriptures. Thanks to Bro. Elli who preaches the truth and the righteousness from the bible.

  42. just be open minded KAY…before it was also my beliefs.

    just be patience…as what says in;

    Rom 5:4 And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
    Rom 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.

    i am hoping you would realize the importance of this blog.

  43. to #4,

    So then I’ll ask you, granting we are upset of this one false and devilish statement from Catholics, are you not upset? Thinking that this statement of belief can endanger millions of people into hellfire? Because one false belief in religion can lead to damnation. Read Galatians 5:19-21

    19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

    20Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, HERESIES,

    21Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

    See? Heresies means false doctrines… Are you not upset? Maybe, because you dont know yet the whole truth like b. Eli knows. If I say to you that I am very angry with Catholics statement, am I doing wrong?
    Read Romans 12:9

    9Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

    Abhor means hate, dislike, mapoot sa tagalog. Christians have such feelings like this. Think….

  44. to Kay of 45

    anyone who sow hopes that he will reap someday and doesn’t thinks of his action as futile.

    indeed we may argue day in and day out whether or not Peter is a rock or a pebble and not come out with a conclusive result. But we can both agree that The Bible is the basis of our faith.

    I have searched the on-line Bible for the verse where Jesus Christ handed over the keys of heaven to Peter and wasn’t surprised have found none. Or even the gates of heaven for that matter. What came across my search was the gates of hell and it is in Mat 16:18.

    the keys to heaven, probably, just like in the case of the names of two thieves who were crucified with Jesus Christ, the three kings, the rosary to name a few. which I once believed is just another limbo of the RCC.

    RCC made people believe that Peter was the first pope, I have not seen any proof to that though. But no apostle will tolerate bowing/kneeling down to something in any form in the earth or beneath the sea or even in heaven. which is the basic gesture of idolatry and which is abominable to God. It is the first and foremost of the ten commandments in which you can usually find in any of the RCC’s house of worship and deliberately disobeying.

    I had been in the RCC but you haven’t been where I am now and I know the big difference. Keep on reading and may God enlighten you.

  45. TO HANNAN MODESTANO:

    The word “catholic church”are not found in any bible
    translation’s,that’s why this is an invented church name.
    I would like to you to listen to what Bro.Eli’s preaching
    according to the Bible about to the true church.

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY

  46. TO HANNAN MODESTANO:

    Dont said that the true churh is the catholic,?why?
    Because the all catholic priest know about Jesus christ
    evangelical preaching in the new testament of the Bible.
    the catholic priest are not preaching the all doctrine in the new the testament with the true wisdom comes from the
    God almigthy.

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY

  47. We understand that whatever belong to GOD should be called to HIS name. Even the smallest thing in the universe came from HIM, especially the human being.

    If you really believe that GOD is the owner of everything, we should also believe that we should address to the owner the things HE own.

    Like the church, if we believe that GOD own the church, we should call it to HIS name ” CHURCH OF GOD”.

    Where can you find in a single verse in the bible the “Roman Catholic Church”?

    The Bible is the book of the LORD, how ironic if really the RCC is the church made by the LORD how come that He didn’t allowed the writer to write even just once in HIS book or the bible?.

  48. JAMES,

    Here’s what HANNAN said:

    44 Hannan Modestano
    Roman Catholic Church …. is an exact opposite of the true church.

    You said, “on 25 Jul 2007 at 5:37 am55 james
    TO HANNAN MODESTANO:

    You said that the exact church is the catholic church?If you can prove it ,prove it?

    Be careful. EXACT OPPOSITE OF THE TRUE CHURCH. NOT THE EXACT CHURCH. He also not for the RCC.

    Anyways, I also commit the same kind of mistakes. Let’s just try to be more careful sometimes. 😉

  49. WE WORSHIP YOU AND GLORIFY YOU OUR LORD, OUR GOD. May the peace of the LORD be alwyas with you Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, ministers, workers, and members of the true church, the CHURCH OF GOD International. As logically and simply explained by Bro Eli and our contributing brethrens, there is only one true church, the CHURCH OF GOD mentioned in the bible so many times. It is not hard to understand, especially if one will only listen to the biblical presentation of Bro Eli. However, a few with philisophical minds, the misled and misguided will always object as foretold, but there is no other choice. How can any church make rightfull claims, when at the very start their name alone is already a mistake and a revelation of their disobedience to GOD. If we go by the doctrines and their deeds, the more that we will see their perverted doctrines and teachings. It has been said that many will claim to be of GOD and even preach Christ, but their deeds will unmask them and say other wise, that is the simple TRUTH. Most of these churches claiming to be christians are actually only for the benefit of their leaders, for MONEY, POLITICAL and ECONOMIC POWER and a strong GRIP OF INFLUENCE in SOCIETY and GOVERNMENTS, as clearly seen in the rcc, the inc-ni manalo, and other fake churches. Many of the MCGI members who originally came from these fake churches, are living witnesses that these Christian churches are not the true church. We always pray for you Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, the ministers, workers, and members of the CHURCH OF GOD, that you will continue to receive GOD’s protection from the dirty persecutions, threats of death and harm, and the ever fast growing responsibility and big burden of spreading the WORDS OF GOD. We are with you, and will follow you. Thank you so much.

  50. Satan, an imitator 5, November 2007 • 13 Comments (Edit)

    “Be on your guard against the yeast/leaven of the Catholic Church and her cohorts.” Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.”

    Satan, afterall, is an imitator, a crafty one. He is a deceiver and the father of lies. Let us have a closer look to an example of his imitation and craftiness.

    Would you agree that Matthew 16 contains a prophesy? And you might find yourselves belonging to those prophesied on the Chapter that the Catholic Church is clearly trying to monopolize. Sadly, you may have the spirit considered as a stumbling block.

    Based on the Chapter: Matthew 16, Jesus has prophesied, (God the Father speaking through Jesus Christ) that St Peter shall be maliciously used and be referred to as a rock. Some, having the mind of men not of God understood differently. But actually, St Peter, Simon Barjonas, was referred to by Jesus as a stone in this verse, having previously given him the name, Peter. In this chapter, through Jesus Christ, the God the Father until now is reminding Satan that the gates of hell shall not win over the Church of God, where Jesus Christ is the rock or foundation.

    Let us see first how Peter acknowledged Jesus Christ as the Son of the living God.

    Matthew 16:
    15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?

    16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

    17 Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.

    These verses show that it is the Father who shall reveal to us the divine understanding of who Jesus Christ is. Obviously, it is neither the Roman Catholic Church nor Satan who shall say if Jesus is the Rock or not, but the Father in Heaven.

    To continue, Jesus Christ began to prophesy:

    Mathew 16:18 And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.

    The next verse was even used by the Roman Catholic to further prove that St Peter is the rock because of the giving of the keys of the kingdom of heaven:

    Matthew 16:19 I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

    20Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

    But the verse implies that Jesus Christ was the one being mentioned to have the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever he loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Afterwhich, Jesus warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ.

    Matthew 16: 20 Then charged he his disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.

    The “he” referred to here was Jesus Christ!

    Matthew 18:

    18″I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.

    19″Again, I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything you ask for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20For where two or three come together in my name, there am I with them.”

    The verses that followed, found below impart to Christians, including Peter, not to doubt the foundation of the Church, which is Jesus Christ, this is because some Jews cannot accept that Jesus Christ is a God and the son of God. Since in the future, it is not only Jews that shall read the scriptures but also “us”, including those who has the spirit of the unbelieving Jews.

    Thus, Satan, as he closely watch and unable to control his contempt, began rebuking Jesus Christ for the overwhelming prophecy.

    Matthew 16:21 From that time on Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life.

    22Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. “Never, Lord!” he said. “This shall never happen to you!”

    So, in this verse, is Peter really the one trying to rebuke Jesus Christ? No, it is not Peter, it is Satan. It’s like the serpent telling Eve that she will not die when she eats the fruit of good and evil.

    Genesis 3:4 “You will not surely die,” the serpent said to the woman. 5 “For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

    To continue, But Jesus Christ, knowing the mystery of Satan, replied:

    Matthew 16:23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men.”

    Thus, blatantly, we should not be shocked why the Roman Catholic Church is bragging their authority. This is because they have in mind the things of men, just like their “father”, not the things of God! Since then, Peter for them became the “Rock.” Catholics would even refer to every stories made by men that will benefit their claim, including the Aramaic language that they said was used by Matthew. Thus, Peter became the foundation of the Roman Apostolic Catholic Church.

    Even a brother in the Church of God knows this should not be and the complete reference for knowledge are those that God referred to contained in the HOLY BIBLE:

    Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

    Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that

    readeth, and they that

    hear the words of this PROPHECY,

    and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.

    There you go, the Peter that the Roman Catholic Church is trying to monopolize is really Satan who is trying to tempt Jesus Christ! Satan believed this too for the lack of understanding. Satan neither have the capacity nor ability, even power to read the hearts of every man, what more to read Jesus Christ’s heart!

    Do you still wonder why the Catholics and her daughter churches, even though they know that it is not the person of Peter who rebuked Jesus Christ, but the evil spirit that has spoken out of the mouth of Peter, still did not realize what was really happening that time? This is due to the lack of understanding they acquired from Satan:

    Romans 11:
    7What then? Israel failed to obtain what it was seeking. The elect obtained it, but the rest were hardened, 8as it is written, “God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes that would not see and ears that would not hear, down to this very day.”

    9And David says, “Let their table become a snare and a trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them; 10let their eyes be darkened so that they cannot see, and bend their backs forever.”

    The Church of God was made a spectacle to angels. Therefore it will not be hard to accept that even Jesus Christ was being watched by Satan during that time.

    1 Corinthians 4:

    9For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like men condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to men.

    Satan really is a deceiver. He tries to imitate God. God the Father spoke through Jesus Christ. Satan spoke through Peter.

    Satan, as an imitator, has also built his own church together with the rivers of teachings that he tries to put in the hearts of every man. This church even gave birth to prostitutes based on Revelation 17. But be forewarned, he imitates the things of God to deceive people and even angels. Satan might have thought that Jesus Christ can be tempted like Eve. Even so, he might have thought too that Peter really is the rock because of his ignorance. Hence, he obviously used this situation to deceive people and angels.

    But then again, Jesus is the true chief cornerstone. Jesus is really the rock!

    1 Corinthians 3:

    11For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ.

    12If any man builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13his work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each man’s work. 14If what he has built survives, he will receive his reward. 15If it is burned up, he will suffer loss; he himself will be saved, but only as one escaping through the flames.

    16Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit lives in you? 17If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is sacred, and you are that temple.

    18Do not deceive yourselves. If any one of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a “fool” so that he may become wise. 19For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”; 20and again, “The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.” 21So then, no more boasting about men! All things are yours, 22whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas or the world or life or death or the present or the future—all are yours, 23and you are of Christ, and Christ is of God.

    From the verse, Jesus Christ will be the one helping Christians that will remain in the Church of God until the end.

    Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

    28Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

    To prove that the true church is the Church of God with a promise of salvation, Jesus Christ being the foundation and having the keys of the gates of heaven.

    1 Corinthians 1
    1Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,

    2To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be holy, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:

    3Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

    4I always thank God for you because of his grace given you in Christ Jesus. 5For in him you have been enriched in every way—in all your speaking and in all your knowledge—

    6because our testimony about Christ was confirmed in you.

    7Therefore you do not lack any spiritual gift as you eagerly wait for our Lord Jesus Christ to be revealed. 8He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9God, who has called you into fellowship with his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, is faithful.

    Matthew 16:12 Then they understood that he was not telling them to guard against the yeast used in bread, but against the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees.

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    “Thank you God for all the blessings, which includes Bro Eli, and for those that we do not see, but shown to us by the Spirit of God! I still remain an unworthy servant.”

  51. TO KAY, FRYHERETICS AND ALL CATHOLICS READING THIS BLOG,

    If you are true and good enough you can try to check and ask yourself where in the Bible you can find the images and artifacts as the objects of worship to God (although you claim not) inside your church to make peoples believe that the Catholic church is the true Church? Why in your Catholic Ten Commandment missed the most if not one of the most important Commandments, the second Commandment of not making images and I quote “Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them; for I, Jehovah, thy God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the third and upon the fourth generation of them that hate me; and showing lovingkindness unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments. (Deu 5:8-10)
    and the Catholics split the last to make it 10? I am one like you before but I searched diligently the Scripture for explanations of many things and happenings in life and I found the reasons why evils are happening especially in the Philippines because of Catholicism. And because Catholics don’t worship God in spirit and in truth as the Bible says then I quote “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hinder the truth in unrighteousness; because that which is known of God is manifest in them; for God manifested it unto them. For the invisible things of him since the creation of the world are clearly seen, being perceived through the things that are made, even his everlasting power and divinity; that they may be without excuse: because that, knowing God, they glorified him not as God, neither gave thanks; but became vain in their reasonings, and their senseless heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, and changed the glory of the incorruptible God for the likeness of an image of corruptible man, and of birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts unto uncleanness, that their bodies should be dishonored among themselves: for that they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshipped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile passions: for their women changed the natural use into that which is against nature: and likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another, men with men working unseemliness, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was due. And even as they refused to have God in their knowledge, God gave them up unto a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hateful to God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, without understanding, covenant-breakers, without natural affection, unmerciful: who, knowing the ordinance of God, that they that practise such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but also consent with them that practise them. (Rom 1:18-32)
    These are the main reasons and most important explanations why evils are happening, especially in most Catholic countries of the world.

    To all concerned try to make or find other justified Biblical explanations to make us believe that the Catholic church is the true church including those other churches that emanated from Catholicism claiming to be true. If I were you, come out and inlluence others to join the True Church of God where you can find peace, happiness and contentment that only God can give.

  52. Ignorance, ignorance, ignorance. You alledge the that the pope claims that their is no christian church outside of the Catholic church and say that he has the audacity to judge those outside of the Catholic church and then turn around and do exactly what you preach against by saying that the Catholic church is not christian. You Hypocrite! I didn’t read all the responses but for those who feel the same way are as ignorant as the day is long. I left the protestant church not out of hate. I love my childhood christian days and appreciate my upbringing. My husband is Catholic and when my children felt close to the Father, son and holy spirit through the Catholic Church, then I decided to check them out. To my surprise, not only are they the most reverent church torward Christ, but they are the most biblical. For those protestants who claim they are pagan, not only misunderstand the Catholic church but have never studied the bible with a well informed Catholic member. If they know their bible well, they will blow any protestant away who is not pigheaded. A protestant’s information comes from another uninformed protestant or a Catholic who had a problem with the morals and beliefs of the pontificate and left to find a faith that follows their needs rather then God’s will. Some may have left out of hurt or abuse from other members. Mislead protestants and catholics mislead other protestants and so on and so on. Not only are Catholics biblical but they are the ones that put the bible together in the first place. Don’t believe me. Look it up by secular means and not by a religious point of view. As far as I’m concerned, anybody who has the love for Christ and follows him to the best of their ability is christian. But who am I to say. I’m just another human being. One thing I would like to say though is that I know how some evangelical churches are anti-catholic and the lies they teach!!! The believes of the Catholics that are twisted by protestants! My Seventh Day Adventist upbringing (which I appreciate despite some of their ignorances) did just that and I feel sorry for those who blindly follow these untruths. And in any church protestant or catholic, one has to be careful of cults that stem off of Christian Churches. And yes, in some parts of the world catholics confuse pagan beliefs with catholic beliefs, combine them and are possibly in danger. Pray for them. May God have mercy on all of us and God Bless.

  53. Tell you what. Every christian should read What the Early Church Fathers have to say. Since I haven’t read it myself, I’m off to the bookstore or library or whoever has this information. God Bless.

  54. To James and Espana and anyone else willing to listen. The word Catholic is not in the bible but allow me to explain where the word catholic came from.

    At first the church was made up of Jews in jerusalem then it spread across the Roman Empire to all walks of life including men and women, children, rich, poor, slaves, Romans, etc.

    Catholic comes from the Greek word Katholikos. Kata (concerning) and Holos (whole) The word Catholic comes from the Greek word meaning “regarding the whole” “universal” or “general”. The word church comes from the Greek word Ecclesia which means “those called out”. The first person to record the word Catholic was Ignatious of Antioch who was ordained by Peter (the rock whom Jesus established his church on) For more very interesting historical information, go to “What does Catholic Mean (The Rock January 2005) written by a former protestant who also had the same questions as you. Remember, christians existed long before the new testament was put together. There is history outside of the bible and there are christian events still happening long after the bible was written.

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