This is the second installment of my reply to Mr. Scott Fogg, a Seventh Day Adventist (SDA), who posted a well appreciated comment on my article entitled, “The Church Of The Bible: The Only 100% True Church”.
Dear Scott,
I noticed that in your reply that you are falsely accusing the Church of God of not holding fast to Jesus’ preaching and teachings by largely ignoring the fourth commandment which is the keeping of the Sabbath, that’s why you are concluding that we are not 100% upholding the truth of God’s teaching. I am sorry to say that you are wrong. If we are not keeping the seventh day Sabbath, it’s not because we are ignoring one of God’s own commandments, as you say. You even cited Matthew 5:18, which I quote hereunder:
(17) “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. (18) “For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.”
You were erroneously carried by the misinterpretation of these verses by the leaders of the Seventh Day Adventist Church. When the Lord Jesus Christ said that, He “Is come not to destroy the laws and the prophets, but to fulfill”, authorities of the SDAC recklessly interpreted that the “laws” and the “prophets” meant by the Lord are the Ten Commandments; But this is not so!
To give you a backgrounder, our Lord Jesus Christ came to earth to fulfill the “laws” and the “prophets” intended exclusively for Him by God the Father.
(Hebrews 10:7) “Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.”
Note the phrase “written of me”, meaning, the will of God for Him to accomplish. Does it mean the Ten Commandments?
(Luke 24:44) “And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me.”
Note again that He is going to fulfill those that were written in the Law of Moses, in the prophets and in the psalms concerning Him.
Why not the Ten Commandments? Because the Ten Commandments were not meant for Christ!
(1 Timothy 1:9-11) “Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.”
Consider that the Ten Commandments were not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient! Jesus Christ is righteous and obedient.
(Hebrews 5:8) “Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered…”
He is obedient because He fulfilled all the laws and the prophets written concerning His person and exclusively for Him. SDAC argues that the Lord Jesus Christ fulfilled the Ten Commandments and observed the Seventh Day Sabbath by going to the synagogues on Sabbath Day. But, did He enter the synagogue on Sabbath day to keep it?
(Luke 4:16-19) “And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord.”
(Luke 4:28-30) “And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath, And rose up, and thrust him out of the city, and led him unto the brow of the hill whereon their city was built, that they might cast him down headlong. But he passing through the midst of them went his way…”
If you look closely, Brother Scott, He went into the synagogue, not to keep the seventh day Sabbath but, to preach the gospel (not the 10 commandments); and when the Sabbath keepers heard his preaching, they rose up against Him, wanting to destroy Him. Why would Sabbath keepers destroy a fellow Sabbath keeper? We do not only apply logic here, but verses to prove that Jesus Christ did not keep the Sabbath being kept by the Jews.
(John 5:18) “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
After all, He is not under obligation to keep the Sabbath or to follow the Ten Commandments which are meant for the “lawless”, and not for a righteous person like Him. Why do I say that He is not under obligation to keep the seventh day Sabbath?
(Mark 2:27-28) “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.”
Notice that He is Lord, also, of the Sabbath. The Lord is not under the Sabbath but, Sabbath is under Him. The verse said that the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
Sabbath made for man = The Israelites (Deuteronomy 5:15)
Not man for the Sabbath = Meaning not all men are obliged to keep the Sabbath
The Son of Man = Lord of the Sabbath = Not under the Sabbath
Nowhere in the book of Acts (that discloses the activities of the first century Christian) church can you find a verse that the disciples congregate in keeping the Sabbath. The Apostle Paul is recorded to have entered the synagogue every Sabbath to persuade the Sabbath keepers, and as a result, they opposed him and blasphemed. Again, why will a Sabbath keeper be opposed by a fellow Sabbath keeper?
(Acts 18:4, 6) “And he reasoned in the synagogue every sabbath, and persuaded the Jews and the Greeks…”
“And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, Your blood be upon your own heads; I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the Gentiles.”
Records in the gospel inform us of the truth that the disciples did not keep the seventh day Sabbath.
(Matthew 12:1-2) “At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.”
You must remember that it is prohibited for Sabbath keepers to do any work on the seventh day. That is why the disciples and the apostles were charged by the Jews for not keeping their Sabbath.
It is not lawful to kindle fire on The Sabbath.
(Exodus 35:3) “Ye shall kindle no fire throughout your habitations upon the sabbath day.”
Can you imagine the apostles eating corn, raw? It is very evident that they broke the Sabbath because they understood that it was not for them.
There is a holy day for Christians; not like the day regarded holy by the Israelites. The Apostle Paul speaks of it to former 7th day Sabbath keepers who were converted to Christianity.
(Hebrews 4:4, 8 ) “For He spoke in a certain place of the seventh day in this way: ” And God rested the seventh day from all His works…”
“…For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.”
Note that God first spoke of the seventh day in verse 7, which, Joshua, leading the Israelites to the Promised Land, administered unto them; but on verse 8, he speaks of another day, meaning, other than the seventh day. Paul gave us his basis for this ‘another’ day. He mentioned the Psalms of David.
(Hebrew 4:7) “He again marks out a certain day, saying in David, “Today, “(after so long a time). Even as it is said, “Today, if you will hear His voice, harden not your hearts.”
This day of rest is what ‘remaineth’ for the people of God in the New Testament.
(Hebrews 4:9) “So then there remains a rest to the people of God.”
Notice meticulously the terms being used by Paul:
- another day
- certain day
- a rest or a Sabbath
Definitely, these terms do not mean the seventh day Sabbath. There are so many seventh days in a year. The New Testament mentions of a certain day (singular), another day (singular), a rest (singular).
What is this day?
It is mentioned in the Psalms of David, according to Paul.
(Psalms 118:20-24) “This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter. I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation. The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. This is the LORD’s doing; it is marvelous in our eyes. This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.”
This is a Day with voice! If you hear His voice, harden not your hearts, the verse said. This Day is the gate where the righteous will enter. It is the stone which became headstone of the corner. This is the Day that the Lord hath made (emphasis mine).
This Day is Jesus Christ: the true Sabbath or rest for Christians.
(Matthew 11:28-29) “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.”
Regardless of the literal day, Christians congregate; the Day that the Lord has made is with them. Christ is with them. Peace is with them. They are in God’s rest or Sabbath.
(Matthew 18:20) “For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
Where the spirit of Christ is, there is peace; there is rest; there is Sabbath.
(John 14:27) “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid.”
Where there’s no peace there’s no rest, and where there’s peace there is genuine rest or Sabbath.
Brother Scott, I hope and pray that you and I may rest in peace — in the real Sabbath of the Lord. Remember the Lord Jesus is the Lord, also of the Sabbath or ‘rest’.
God Bless.
EFS
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to Scott,
I do not want to offend you, but don’t you realize? all what bro Eli is saying are all backed up by the scriptures.. and what you are saying are all just your self explanations, and thats the point where error comes, we should be disciplined with what is written, and not with our self understanding
I just really hope and pray that you will come to understanding (Phi.3:9) 🙂
This definitely should clear every curious mind.. Sabbath is Him..
Very well conceived Bro. Eli.
I hope and pray as well for people like Brother Scott be enlightened.
I believe Brother Scott, “knock and the door shall open for you to see the righteousness of God.”
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!again,thanks to GOD for he sent brother eli to enlighten us about things hidden to the wise..but revealed unto us babes.
May more souls be called to be saints in this one true church written in the epistles…
False churches will never see the light of truth…for founding their own church,they blatantly ignore CHRIST.They have rejected GOD’S WORD.
PRO 5:23He shall die without instruction; and in the greatness of his folly he shall go astray.
FAITH IS ADHERING AND CONFORMING TO THE WORD….AND EMBRACING FALSE DOCTRINES IS FANATICISM FOR IT IS BASELESS AND IT IS BELIED BY THE TRUE DOCTRINES OF CHRIST.
LET THEM COME FORWARD….AND SHEW US FORMER THINGS!
ISA.43:AND 9Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth
PLEASE LET THE MINISTERS OF ALL NATIONS COME FORWARD AND OPENLY DISCUSS…..WHO IS IN TRUTH???????????
LET US REASON TOGETHER !
ISA 1:18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool
BUT GOD HAS WARNED US ……
19If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:
20But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it
IT IS THRU OPEN DISCUSSIONS THAT THE TRUTH SHALL SHINE….FOR THERE’S A PROMISE…
JOEL2:27 Then you will know that I am in Israel,
that I am the LORD your God,
and that there is no other;
never again will my people be shamed
LUKE 21:13And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
14Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
15For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist
and the gospel shall be preached upon nations,that the other lost sheeps may hear GOD’S VOICE THRU HIS WORD….READ BY THE READER…..
REV1:3Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take to heart what is written in it, because the time is near
THERE IS ONE WHO READS ALOUD….NOT MANY,BUT ONE AS PROPHESIED IN OUR TIME..
john10:16I have other sheep that are not of this sheep pen. I must bring them also. They too will listen to my voice, and there shall be one flock and one shepherd.
WHAT DOES THE VOICE SAY?
ROM 10: 3For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God
ESTABLISHING THEIR OWN IS REJECTING CHRIST FOR GOD HAS FOUNDED THAT ONE CHURCH……1 TIM 3:15-16,1 COR.1;1-2,2 COR 1;1 THE CHURCH OF GOD ….WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE.
CENTURIES BEFORE WE WRE EVEN BORN…EVEN OUR GRAND GRAND PARENTS WERE ………THE CHURCH HAS ALREADY EXISTED.
WE JUST NEED TO JOIN THAT ONE CHURCH…
. one just need to scrutinize the doctrines…as CHRIST GAVE US AS GUIDE IN SEARCHING FOR GOD
JOHN 7:17If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself
THE DOCTRINES SHOULD BE THE GUIDE..IT IS VERY CLEAR.AS STATED BY CHRIST
thanks again,scott for your time.
So why then don’t we all keep the seventh day, if the law was meant for the lawless and the disobedient? Is that not us? We, who have fallen short of the glory of God?
Even if Jesus was exempt from the Ten Commandments (which I cannot believe, as that would mean Jesus was free to kill, steal, and adulterate), how does that make us exempt from them?
-=Scott
Hi Scott,
There you have it, coming from the preacher himself! We hope and pray that your questions in mind be answered. Try to compare Bro. Eli’s explanation from what you have learned from your Pastors. Just be open minded so that the light of God’s righteousness may have the chance to enter.
Act 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
May God bless you in your search for the Truth.
Once again, This is what I’m saying for, that the scriptures was more than like a mathematical expressions of more variables just like in polynomial equations. The x’s, y’s and z’s of the words of God are being solve to us by Bro. Eli. The seventh day adventist ministers had solve it wrongly about the meaning of “seventh day” in the scriptures. ssD
hi scott’
again….please dissect the above topic as discussed from the bible by bro.eli.
there’s another day of sabbath…..for christians.
please check it.please read it and pray to GOD hard…if truly you want TRUTH.
GOD’S PROMISE IS FAITHFUL….FOR GOD CANNOT LIE…
IF TRULY ,YOU ARE SEARCHING….YOU SHALL FIND IT.
UNLESS…YOU LEAVE YOUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS….
SEEK GOD’S KINGDOM…….MAT.6;33
GOD’S KINGDOM IS GOD’S RIGHTEOUSNESS…..NOT OUR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS.HOW CAN WE FIND IT?
IT IS THE CHURCH WHERE HIS WORD DWELLS.the word of god is the king in his kingdom…..not people’s words and assumptions.
i hope you find time to read bro.eli’s sabbath topic and we pray to GOD that your eyes be opened..and remember…we dont need literal eyes to see it…..do u have eyes that can see?if truly your pastor is true…you must know which eyes you need…to see…..
thanks again ,scott.
To Scott,
YOU SAID: So why then don’t we all keep the seventh day, if the law was meant for the lawless and the disobedient? Is that not us? We, who have fallen short of the glory of God?
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Hey, first of all, be informed that not all people are lawless and disobedient! Do not include us in your list! On the other hand, don’t get mistaken that we do not have Sabbath! We do! But it’s not the same physical day of rest given to Israel. That Sabbath that you are observing is not the one instructed for Christians to observe. We are Christians and not under the law of Moses!
Bro. Eli clearly stated that there is another Sabbath which was intended for Christians.
Heb. 4:8 “…For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.”
This is “another day” is the REAL Sabbath intended for Christians. If it would have been the same day (Sabbath for Israel) then Joshua would have not have spoken of “another day”. That “another day”, is not the same Sabbath observed by Israel. It is Christ, the real Sabbath, our resting place where we shall find true peace.
Matthew 11:28-29 “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.”
Truly, Bro. Eli was precise in the understanding of the scriptures that Christ is the real Sabbath for Christians. In him, we can find rest unto our souls.
Now, which Sabbath are you willing to observe? The physical day of Sabbath commanded to Israel because they were slaves in Egypt or the “another Sabbath” which is Christ, the rest for our souls?
Don’t get mistaken, we also have a Sabbath, but it is the right Sabbath intended for us and not for Israel. In Christ we have rest, and that is the real Sabbath. We suggest that you better learn to follow the commanded which is intended for us and not the one which had been made old, which decayeth and ready to vanish away.
Heb. 8:13 “In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.”
May God open your eyes for understanding.
To Scott,
YOU SAID: Even if Jesus was exempt from the Ten Commandments (which I cannot believe, as that would mean Jesus was free to kill, steal, and adulterate), how does that make us exempt from them?
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What is written is very, very clear.
1 Tim. 1:9 “Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,”
It saddens us to see that you do not believe what is written and for that reason, you are particularly being a victim of Satan because of unbelief in the gospel.
2 Cor. 4:4 “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
Isn’t Christ righteous? Do you have to tell him not to commit adultery? Not to steal? To acknowledge God and not to worship images? Are you mocking Christ?
YOU SAID: how does that make us exempt from them (killing, adultery, etc)?
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There are specific instructions for Christians to observe and they’re not the 10 commandments.
For example:
Law of Moses: “Thou Shall Not Murder” – during the time of Moses, that is the instruction. In case you hurt your neighbor’s eye, the same justice shall be rendered unto you, “an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth”. Hatred possibly remains in your heart but as long as you do not murder, you will not also be killed.
Law of Christ: 1 John 3:15 “Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.”
Do you still have to command a True Christian not to murder? That is stupid! How can a Christian commit murder when he does not even hate in his heart! That is the commandment that he follows, to remove hatred and to love even the enemy! For that is the example Christ had shown to Christians!
Were there Christians who were able to do that? Let us prove it from the scriptures!
Acts 7:59 “And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.”
Acts 7:60 “And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.”
Would you still say to Stephen, “thou shall not murder”? That would be stupid! Even while being killed, stoned to death, he is even praying for those who murder him! You don’t have to tell that to a Christian, a Adventist maybe! But not to a True Christian!
We hope you get the point brother. We suggest that you carefully listen and understand what Bro. Eli is teaching. He speaks with full sense and logic. Who knows, you may have already met the one sent by God in our time, but you are just ignoring him and what he says.
Ask but don’t be contentious.
Be open minded.
Believe.
God bless.
(John 5:18) “Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.”
After all, He is not under obligation to keep the Sabbath or to follow the Ten Commandments which are meant for the “lawless”, and not for a righteous person like Him. Why do I say that He is not under obligation to keep the seventh day Sabbath?
(Mark 2:27-28) “And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.”
Notice that He is Lord, also, of the Sabbath. The Lord is not under the Sabbath but, Sabbath is under Him. The verse said that the Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
Sabbath made for man = The Israelites (Deuteronomy 5:15)
Not man for the Sabbath = Meaning not all men are obliged to keep the Sabbath
The Son of Man = Lord of the Sabbath = Not under the Sabbath
>Notice that He is Lord, also, of the Sabbath, the LORD is not UNDER the sabbath…….I hope u understand what it means…..Mr. fogg….the revealing truth is in front of your eyes…
pls. read this verse > (Mark 4:11) KING JAMES VERSION
MARK 4:11
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
The Lord Jesus Christ is speaking to his Apostles saying ” Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God. Where are those Apostles that the Lord Jesus Christ taught of things which he said;” that from that are without all things are done in parables”. those without are not with the Apostles where in, so Mr. fogg it is clearly understood that if you don’t understand what Bro. Eli’s clearer than crystal’s explanation, the WORD of GOD will remain parables unto you. hope you will found the true Sabbath of your soul…….and if you will ask me? are we also in where the Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ where in ? ….my answer is …Ask Bro. Eli Soriano …..
TO: Scott
you wrote #4: So why then don’t we all keep the seventh day, if the law was meant for the lawless and the disobedient? Is that not us? We, who have fallen short of the glory of God?
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Brother Scott the way you ask signify only that it’s time to pack-up and leave your community now.
Why? Because you don’t understand sabbath, it seems that your community don’t understand sabbath also.
Lets hear what Jesus Christ said:
“And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.” (Mark 3:4)
Brother, what Jesus Christ intention is there is more important to do than observing sabbath and these are:
“Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.” (Matthew 25:45)
“For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:” (Matthew 25:42)
“I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.” (Matthew 25:43)
Therefore for every good works you done to your fellow it seems that you observed sabbath.
EYES
Hi Scott,
Yes Scott, the law was meant for the lawless & disobedient!!!Don’t you know why? For them to follow….. &…… obey! …..right?
For if…..after, they knew the law…& ignored it….what will be next?……they’ll be penalized,…..right? A person with a sound mind
wouldn’t break a law knowing he will be slapped w/ penalties, fines, lawsuits, be jailed, etc,…etc…etc…. So as with Christians, the
penalty for disobeying the law of Christ is eternal death!!!
How ignorant & careless of you(of the BIBLE) to conclude that Jesus was free to kill, steal, & adulterate(being exempt of the Ten Commandments)!!!….On the contrary…….JESUS taught us how to love our enemies, do good to all who hate us……Mat. 5:44……Luke 6:27…..1Jn.3:15….
Yes Scott, we were once like you,……but thank GOD, HE gave us Bro Eli………
GOD bless!!!
TO: Scott
Brother, maybe you can ask that why is it that doing a good works is it seems observing sabbath.
Is it because sabbath is made in order his people to have a time to worship him.
But our Lord Jesus Christ said:
“But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.” (John 4:23)
and the truth brother is not by observing but by doing it with love( faith, mercy and justice)
EYES
So why then don’t we all keep the seventh day, if the law was meant for the lawless and the disobedient? Is that not us? We, who have fallen short of the glory of God?
Even if Jesus was exempt from the Ten Commandments (which I cannot believe, as that would mean Jesus was free to kill, steal, and adulterate), how does that make us exempt from them?
-=Scott
Dear Mr. Scott, does the so called “New Testament” ever mention that Christians or the servants of God/followers of Christ and even Christ himself has the freedom to KILL, STEAL, and commit ADULTERY?? I don’t think so.
-justin-
hi scott,
yes its true that we are lawless thats why we must obey the law of god including the sabbath law,but the Q is,what sabbath law given by god are we going to obey? scott,the answer is as clear as the crystal clear just like what bro.eli post in this blog wich regard whith this topic..try to repeat in reading and reading it again until you are going to be enlighten..
thanks scott for your time,
jun
to Scott,
“Even if Jesus was exempt from the Ten Commandments (which I cannot believe, as that would mean Jesus was free to kill, steal, and adulterate), how does that make us exempt from them?…” -=scott
This is where you err. You can’t believe Jesus was exemted from the ten commandments. If this is your line of thinking you are saying that Jesus is unrighteous, unlawful and law breaker. Didn’t you remember what bro. Eli cited the verse in,… (1 Timothy 1:9-11) “Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine; According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.” Therefore, realizing this verse, apostle Paul is saying that Jesus is exemted on ten commandments because we all knew that he is righteous before us and before God.
The more you resist the more discernable the spirit you have.You become anti-Christ in your statement! ssD
There are commandments of God that are addressed to a certain group or certain person. Let’s read to whom this Sabbath is intended:
And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep the sabbath day. – Deut 5:15
It make sense right? Israelites were slaves – they toil everyday, isn’t it compassion to give then a day to rest after they came out from Egypt?
I was once an SDA, but I found my true Sabbath thru the preaching of Bro. Eli Soriano.
hi scott!
PLEASE READ AND READ ALL OVER THE SABBATH TOPIC AS EXPLAINED BY BRO.ELI.please leave your physical sabbath given to israel.
afterall,are you an israelite?
or are you a gentile?
lets see which day is given to christians….
psalms 118:24 This is the day the LORD has made;
let us rejoice and be glad in it
bro.eli soriano:This is a Day with voice! If you hear His voice, harden not your hearts, the verse said. This Day is the gate where the righteous will enter. It is the stone which became headstone of the corner. This is the Day that the Lord hath made (emphasis mine).
This Day is Jesus Christ: the true Sabbath or rest for Christians
AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CHRIST came and stated the mystery of the new day……the DAY THAT THE LORD HAST MADE!
CHRIST IS OUR SPIRITUAL SABBATH……THATS WHY ONE NEEDS TO SEARCH FOR THE TRUE CHRIST…..
MAT 11:25At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.
MAT11:28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.
DID YOU NOTICE THOSE VERSES SCOTT?
ISNT SABBATH DAY ,THE PHYSICAL REST DAY FOR ISRAEL?
BUT WHAT IS THIS REST THAT CHRIST IS SAYING??????????????
GOD SAID….
ISA 34:16 SEARCH IN THE BOOK OF THE LORD…..
WHAT IS THIS DAY REALLY?
Hebrew 4:7) “He again marks out a certain day, saying in David, “Today, “(after so long a time). Even as it is said, “Today, if you will hear His voice, harden not your hearts.”
This day of rest is what remaineth for the people of God in the New Testament.
(Hebrews 4:9) “So then there remains a rest to the people of God.”
WHICH IS THIS DAY?…….ISNT IT…..”.TODAY”??????????
THIS IS “ANOTHER DAY”!!!!!!
AND THIS IS YOUR ”TODAY”……IF YOU REALLY YOU HAVE FOUND REST….BUT IF TRULY YOU HAVE FOUND REST,WHY DOES GOD’S WORD PIERCE IN ONE’S HEART?IS THERE TRULY….PEACE IN THEIR HEART?IS THERE REAL PEACE?
BUT WHAT KIND OF REST?IS THIS DAY?
IS IT PHYSICAL REST?
MAT11:28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light
DIDNT YOU NOTICE?
THIS REST COMES WITH TAKING CHRIST’S YOKE…..AND IT ISNT HEAVY……..IS THIS A LITERAL DAY OF REST?
HOW CAN IT BE A PHYSICAL DAY OF REST…..WHEN CHRIST IS GIVING US A YOKE TO CARRY?????????AND WHAT IS THAT YOKE?
AGAIN,….IN THE PROPHECY…
JER6:16Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find REST for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein
SCOTT, DID YOU NOTICE THE VERSE?
I HAVE INTENTIONALLY CAPITALIZED THE WORD”REST” THAT YOU MAY NOT MISS IT….
HAVE YOU OBEYED THIS COMMANDMENT?HAVE YOU ASKED FOR THE OLD PATHS……WHERE THE GOOD WAY IS?……….
AND WHERE….YOU CAN WALK,……AND FIND ” R E S T “!!!!!!!!
DO U KNOW WHO THIS WAY IS????????????
EVEN THOMAS ASKED……
JOHN !4:5Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
THIS IS WHERE WE…MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH OF GOD ….IN THE BIBLE……..HAVE FOUND THAT DAY….OF REST……
AND THAT DAY IS NOT THE SABBATH DAY THAT ISRAEL HAD….
WE HAVE FOUND THAT SPIRITUAL DAY OF REST…….
NOT THE PHYSICAL DAY….BUT THAT “DAY” WHERE WE FOUND REST FOR OUR SOULS……
THAT “DAY” IS OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!
FOR THAT “DAY” IS THE “WAY”…..
PRO6:23 For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; And reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
JOHN 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
AND MY UNMEASUREABLE THANKS TO GOD!!!!!!!!!FOR IN THE MIDST OF THIS WORLD OF LIES…….THERE IS TRUTH….THE TRUTH….THE WAY….THE DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THAT THE LORD HAST MADE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!….FOR US PEOPLE WHO FEAR GOD IN THESE LAST DAYS….THANKS TO GOD FOR! THE MAN HE SENT….THE READER….IN REV.1;3 …OUR BRO.ELI SORIANO!AND MY SINCEREST THANKS TO YOU, BRO.ELI….WE LOVE YOU!
SCRUTINIZE THE VERSES AND MAY YOU FIND TRUE REST….TRUE SABBATH OF YOUR SOUL TOO,…SCOTT
THANKS !
AGAIN SCOTT….PLEASE THINK OVER THIS VERSE
JER6:1616Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk thereiN
AGAIN….DID YOU NOTICE?
THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO WALK…IN THAT PATH….WHERE THE GOOD WAY IS…..THEY REJECT THE GOOD WAY WHERE THEY SHALL FIND……R E S T…………FOR THEIR SOULS………IS THIS A PHYSICAL DAY OF REST???????????????
THINK ABOUT IT,SCOTT..
MAY THE GOOD LORD OPEN YOUR EYES.
I grew up in the country side, and during the time before the harvest of the wheat, you could just plug off the ears and eat because they are not too hard to be eaten. As for Jesus and His disciples, I strongly disagree that they kindled fire and ate. From practical point I used to plug off the corn when I was hungry and herding the flock. Why is it impossible to see that Sabbath is still holy and needs to be kept? For your sake please read Hebrews 4:3;9. I hope you will find that God is not confused as some men are, holding the truth in unrighteous manner..Answer this question after you’ve read vs 9, “Whose child are you if you don’t keep Sabbath?”
To Molete,
Granting without accepting that apostle did not kindle fire when they ate the corn, is it lawful as a sabbath keeper to plug off a corn in sabbath day? Please answer it honestly. You said that you grew up in a country side, and I assume based on your argument that you are a member of SDAC. Are you pluging off corn in Saturday?
Now let’s read the verse that you mentioned, Heb 4:3;9:
v.3
For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
Notice that the rest mentioned in the verse. People are capable of entering into that rest. As a Christian we believe that this “rest” is Jesus Christ (Matt 11:28-30) and surely we can enter into Him because he is the door (John 10:9). Let’s continue reading and we’re going to find out more…
v.9
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Is it talking about Saturday or Sabbath day which you observed every week? Read it carefully my friend it says “remaineth therefore A REST – how many? The people of God is waiting for that PARTICULAR REST (just one rest) – that is Jesus Christ:
Titus 2:13
Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
Peace be with you Molete.
What an enlightening article, thanks to Bro. Eli Soriano more power to you.
to scott, leo, eyes etc.
Why are you wasting your time talking about Sabbath?
Our lord Jesus christ said it biblically that God has never rested. So, That’s it!
Believe in Jesus ……He is the authority!
i’m sorry. i really can’t stay here any longer. i’m asking questions, looking for answers from the Bible, but everyone here would rather quote Brother Eli and his rationale as opposed to using their own.
when i asked the question, i did meant to imply that Jesus was unrighteous. what i was trying to point out is that even if Jesus didn’t have to be told “not to kill,” He still had to uphold those commandments. until Jesus began to preach, the only Law and Prophecy the Jews had was the Old Testament. which means in order for Jesus to be the perfect, blameless, lamb of God, He had to keep those commandments! you think growing up, Jesus didn’t keep the Sabbath? that’s beyond ignorant, if that’s what you think.
i didn’t mean to start a fight. i’m searching for some answers. and i was hoping that answers could be found in the Bible, not from the skewed logic of a preacher who doesn’t advocate common sense while claiming to be “the only sensible” preacher. because everyone on this board is not thinking for themselves. no-one’s listening to me. i post a heart-felt question and everyone just regurgitates what “Bro Eli” already said. does no-one realize you don’t answer a question that way?
ugh.
i’m sorry. i’m going elsewhere.
Open-minded,
have you read the book of Genesis? i’d recommend Genesis 2:2. “By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested from all his work.”
kinda hard to argue that, huh? right there in the Bible. God resting.
to scott,
you’re not going anywhere cause you’re totally lost…sorry to say also!
AMEN!
To: Scott #25
Scott, yeah i read the book of Genesis 2:2 loud and clear but who’s speaking in Genesis?
Listen to Jesus scott:
” the man went and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had healed him. And this was why the Jews persecuted Jesus, because he did this on the sabbath. But Jesus answered them, MY FATHER IS WORKING STILL, AND I AM WORKING.” This was why the Jews sought all the more to kill
him, because he not only broke the sabbath but also called God his Father making himself equal with God” (John 5:15-18)
MY FATHER IS WORKING STILL, AND I AM WORKING.”
Therefore the TRUTH is the father has never rested until now and therefore the Old testament basis ( Gen. 2:2-3, Exodus 20:11) for the sabbath rest is invalid.
Believe in Jesus scott! We must believe in him. He is the chosen son.
God to scott: “THIS IS MY CHOSEN SON, BE HEARING HIM!”
TO: Open-minded
you wrote: scott, leo, eyes etc.
Why are you wasting your time talking about Sabbath?
Our lord Jesus christ said it biblically that God has never rested. So, That’s it!
Believe in Jesus ……He is the authority!
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Brother, don’t you know that there is a mystery of sabbath?
Because sabbath is made in order his people to have a time to worship him.
But our Lord Jesus Christ said:
“But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.” (John 4:23)
and the truth brother is not by observing but by doing it with love( faith, mercy and justice)
Therefore there is another point brother that:
Doing good works with love it seem that you are worshipping.
and thats why brother, Jesus christ said:
“And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.” (John 5:16)
“But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.” (John 5:16)
Why Jesus christ and our FATHER in heaven continue working brother?
because to fulfill his words that:
“Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.” (Matthew 25:45)
“Blessed [are] the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.” (Matthew 5:7)
“But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and [to] the evil.” (Luke 6:35)
EYES
To EYES
you wrote:don’t you know that there is a mystery of sabbath?
Because sabbath is made in order his people to have a time to worship him. the truth brother is not by observing but by doing it with love( faith, mercy and justice)
“But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.” (John 4:23)
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Brother, There must be no sabbathical leave in worshipping God. we must worship God without ceasing, repentance coupled with thanksgiving, but we can only do that out of his mercy- when faith comes in, and by doing our spiritual practice or that so called “True Worshipping”, worshipping the Father in spirit then our sins can be blotted out and thereby we will not be put into justice. – Gaining eternal life!
Perhaps you are a little bit confuse, How can it be? we have our own free will it is a God given gift. Well, what do I mean by………. ” we can only do that out of his mercy”?
In our normal dealings especially in searching for truth, we feel that we have developed a longing for the Lord while in reality it is the Lord himself who has put that longing within us.
Let me illustrate it in a simple story, supposing you agree to play a game of hide and seek with your tiny brother, let us also suppose that you decide to hide from him in such a way that he will not be able to find you. Could you do it? (Of course you can, you have EYES). You are far clever than your tiny bro. and can easily devise a hiding place that will frustrate his efforts. But what do you do instead? You generally pick up some place to hide which is not too difficult to find. If , after a reasonable lenght of time, your little bro. has not found you, you make little noises or send him some clues as to your place. When he finds you, he proclaims with great pride, ‘ I FOUND YOU”, well, you modestly allow him to take the credit, although, without your guidance, he would have found your location.
So, similarly, unless we are given assistance by the Lord, who is the object of our search, we will never succeed in finding the right path.
Do you agree? that HE is the one pulling the string in the highest perspective?
To: 0pen-minded
Yes, you are true brother that GOD is the one pulling the string in the highest perspective.
that’s why I can say that;
Whosoever who wants and under the MERCY of GOD shall live according to justice.
But let me expain what I mean.
What I mean brother is sabbath is made to have a proper day or proper time to worship and thanks GOD in the old covenant.
Just in order on that sabbath day the Israelite people in the old covenant will commemorate the day that GOD delivered them from a bondaged of egypt and gived thanks and worship him.
As a whole sabbath is made for commemoration and time to honor, service and worship to GOD who deliver the Israelite from the bondage of egypt in the old covenant.
Therefore the way I looked at it brother sabbath is not intended for certain day but sabbath is intended for commemoration, to honor or to service GOD in any time and days.
and that’s why brother Jesus Christ is said that I am the lord of Sabbath because in christian era we have to believe and follow him because he is the way to our true worship or service to the FATHER in heavens.
and can you imagined brother that a person which is a way for our true worship and service to the FATHER in heavens or a person who can save us from an eternal fire has a debt on you or has an owe on you.
as what he said:
“Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.” (Matthew 25:45)
Be rejoice brother! because this word is guaranteed that heaven and earth will passed a way but not a single of this word will not fulfill.
EYES
To Scott,
YOU SAID: i didn’t mean to start a fight. i’m searching for some answers. and i was hoping that answers could be found in the Bible, not from the skewed logic of a preacher who doesn’t advocate common sense while claiming to be “the only sensible” preacher. because everyone on this board is not thinking for themselves. no-one’s listening to me. i post a heart-felt question and everyone just regurgitates what “Bro Eli” already said. does no-one realize you don’t answer a question that way?
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Bro. Eli has answered you with so many verses and you say that his answers could not be found in the Bible???? He has been answering you with God’s word and not with his own logic.
He has provided and answered you with more than 30 VERSES in the scriptures, blind man!
YOU ARE A LIAR! and a BLIND one at that!
2 Cor 4:4: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”
To EYES.
You are truly a member of the “Church of God”
to scott: Ask bro.eli and you will be enlightened. Believe what bro.eli will say because his answers are biblical. Think widely,do not be fanatic to your erroneous faith.The faith of the seventh day adventist church do not come from our lord Jesus but from Mrs.White….sorry but it is true…
I BELIEVE IN THE SABBATH AND I BELIEVE IN THE WORD AND I THINK OF WHAT WAS SAID BEWARE OF FALSE TEACHINGS! MY FAITH COMES FROM JESUS CHRIST NOT MRS.WHITE HER TEACHINGS ARE A TOOL MERLY BUT THE BIBLE IS THE TRUTH AND THE WAY
WHAT BIBLE DOES THIS CHURCH OF CHRIST READ FROM? I THINK THAT THE SABBATH WAS INTENDED FOR AS A DAY OF WORSHIP AND REFLECTION WITH GOD .SEVENTH DAY ADAVENTIST ALSO DO WORKS IN THE COMMUNITY ON THE SABBATH DAY BECAUSE THE PURPOSE TO TO BE MORE LIKE HIM. I THINK MANY WILL BE IN HEAVEN MANY THAT LOVE CHRIST AND KEEP! HIS COMMANDMENTS AND THOSE WHO DO NOT CHANGE THE WORD TO BE MORE COMFORTABLE FOR THEM
PEACE
DID CHRIST COME TO WALK WITH US ? THEN WHY DID HE CREATE THE SABBATH IF HE WAS NOT GOING TO FOLLOW IT ? GOD IS NOT DOUBLE STANDARD. I THINK HE WAS TO FOLLOW THE COMMANDMENTS ALSO WHY DOESNT COC THINK THIS ? AND YES SABBATH IS FOR A CERTAIN DAY WHY DID JESUS CREATE THE WHOLE WORLD AND THEN RESTED THE SABBATH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY ARE YOU ALL JUST SIMPLY DISREGARDING IT ? I NEED TO UNDERSTAND
Bro. Tricks
To Scott,
You said “i’m asking questions, looking for answers from the Bible, but everyone here would rather quote Brother Eli and his rationale as opposed to using their own”.
Scott, had you only make a careful analysis on Bro. Eli’s replies to your comments on the topic “The True Sabbath for a True Christina is…[drumrolls], you could have observed that what Bro. Eli did is exactly what you are looking for — answers. Bro. Eli answered all the issues you raised point by point. And very noticeable is the fact Bro. Eli’s answers were all supported by biblical verses. You can never claim or say that those were all Bro. Eli’s opinion. All his comment were based on careful analysis of Bible verses quoted therein.
If only you read the response with an open mind and without preconception of any bias against your belief, you could have easily understood what Bro. Eli was trying to arrive at — that you may be able to understand the true meaning of sabbath as taught by our Lord Jesus Christ to His Disciples and early Christians.
Bro. Sctott, go over again. Read it once more. This time make it slowly and deliberate that you may be able to get the import of every word that Bro. Eli wrote. The Holy Spirit will guide and you can never go wrong. And I can assure you of that.
Good day to all Brethren and let us praise and thank God.
Bro. Tricks
TO MARQUISE BISHOP,
Your’re asking if what Bible does Church of Christ is reading. One thing sure is that if it is a Bible, then there’s not much difference with other Bible version available elsewhere.
But what bothers me no end is you allusion to “JESUS CREATE THE WHOLE WORLD AND THEN RESTED THE SABBATH DAY AND MADE IT HOLY”. Where did you get that verse. Can I now return the question? What Bible are your reading? Please share it with us.
I think it is more correct to say that Christ, existing then in spirit, was with God the Father even before and during creation. (Proverbs 8:22-30)
Good day and God Bless to all.
To Marquise Bishop,
THEN WHY DID HE CREATE THE SABBATH IF HE WAS NOT GOING TO FOLLOW IT ?
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It is as simple as this: “Thou Shall Not Kill”
Will you tell God “you have commanded not to kill, then why do you kill”? Only foolish people would ask that.
You may even ask, when God kills, does he commit a sin? Definitely not, because He doesn’t need to observe the law because He is not under the law but rather the law Giver. I hope you are getting the point here.
Same with Christ, what he said is very clear.
Matthew 12:8 – For the Son of man, is Lord even of the sabbath day.
Who must follow who? Must Christ follow the sabbath day or the sabbath day should follow Christ?
If you will persist that Christ must observe sabbath, then you are truly not acknowledging the Lordship of Christ, even of the sabbath day.
Thanks be to God for giving us a preacher that well explains to us, the real meaning of what is written in the Holy Scriptures.
God bless.
Bro. Eli wrote:
“This Day is Jesus Christ: the true Sabbath or rest for Christians.
(Matthew 11:28-29) “Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.” ”
Amen!
to Mr Scott, well… I hope you wont cease to post questions and I pray that someday with the Grace of God may you feel that your “heart-felt questions” are Biblically-guided-heart-feltly being answered by Bro.Eli.
AMEN! How enlightening,heart-felt and peaceful answer from Bro.Eli…. THANKS BE TO GOD!
Hello Brother Eli,
I read your post and it sounds and reads very simillar to what I read on most web-sites. I wish that someone will see all references about the law in the Bible and give a clear teaching about it. So far I know of only one person who tried to do just that and he became a Seventh-day sabbath keeper and an SDA. I am not saying that he is right. God judges, not me.But everyone must make intellegent decisions for himself based on all the facts presented.
I am a born again Seventh-day Adventist and I thank God he lead me to the true church when I was seeking for one. God is great and like him is none!! And since then, when I have questions in my mind I always go to God with prayer and fasting and he reveals his will to me . I hope that when it is to decide for or against the keeping of the Sabbath, people will seriously go to God and enquire “what is your will?”and not lean on man or someone thought to be lead by “the Holy-Spirit”. Everyone will answer for himself so everyone should make their own choices and be ready to answer when asked.
I pray that all of you on this site will also do just that and then decide for yourselves.
In Jesus, Tamerat
ALL GLORY AND HONOR TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST. Even if a bible reader is an educated man, even if he reads it over and over again, everything will be like parables, hard to comprehend, except that said reader is like Bro Eli who has been blessed by GOD to have the wisdom to understand the kingdom of GOD.MARK 4:11-…UNTO YOU IT IS GIVEN TO KNOW THE MYSTERY OF THE KINGDOM OF GOD; BUT UNTO THEM THAT ARE WITHOUT, ALL THESE THINGS ARE DONE IN PARABLES. Some verses are to be interpreted literally while others are to be spiritually appreciated. I am sorry to say that once a week as claimed by sdac members is not enough to worship GOD, it might be true in the olden days covered by the old covenant, when the Israelites were instructed to reserve the sabbath once a week in order to worship GOD; but from the time of JESUS CHRIST under the new covenant, Christians are expected to worship GOD not only during sabbath, but all the time of their life, the reason HIS laws were written in the tables of the heart and no longer in the stones. It is easy to discern that JESUS CHRIST is the true SABBATH that GOD wants us to understand and follow. Bro Eli’s biblical explanation is easy to understand for people whose hearts are not hardened, or misled by the false preachers. We pray that GOD will continue to shower Bro Eli with the understanding and knowledge of GOD’s WORDS, the physical and spiritual strength to go on the mission of spreading the TRUTH, using all available technology [including blogs, podcast, and other medium] while there s still time. May I enjoin all true Christians to help and support Bro Eli do his duty by sharing any and all resources in our hands, IT knowledge, writing, and financial assistance that will guarantee the maximum number of people that will have the chance to know the TRUTH thru Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, and the CHURCH OF GOD International.
I need to ask a question. So now since we don’t have to keep the fourth commandment of God. Does that mean we don’t have to keep any of them? Can I be held accountable for not keeping the other commandments , and if so will I go to hell for doing the things that I am doing, that breaks other commandments? I have always been taught the Ten Commandments and if you break one , you break them all. So please explain that to me please.
It is true that if we break one of the commandments we are guilty of all (James 2:10). So if we are not required to keep the fourth commandment, then we are not required to keep any of them; and this would mean we are free to murder, lie, and sleep with another man’s wife. Surely this is not so!
Take Matt. 5:17-29:
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. [i]Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven,[/i] but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. [i]For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.[/i]
“You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘Do not murder, and [i]anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.[/i]
“Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.
“Settle matters quickly with your adversary who is taking you to court. Do it while you are still with him on the way, or he may hand you over to the judge, and the judge may hand you over to the officer, and you may be thrown into prison. I tell you the truth, you will not get out until you have paid the last penny.
[i]”You have heard that it was said, ‘Do not commit adultery.’But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell[/i]
If we love Jesus, we will keep His Commandments (John 14:15).
Also, according to John 15:10, Jesus did keep the Commandments.
So the true Sabbath for a true Christian is the Sabbath that God had established before, and He established it even before sin entered into the world (Gen. 2:3).
If we do not keep the Ten Commandments, we are in danger of the judgement. This site is misleading; it tells lies.
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves (Matt. 7:15).
I thought that the word sabbath meant cease or rest in english, Apparently it is connected with another religious practice in another or similar form of religion in ancient babylon. They have called it shapattu or something, i might have to read that bok again. Abraham was from babylon in the city of Ur. i still have to now it this practice was adopted by the jews into a new form of practice from the babylonians
Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh even until now, and I work.
Praise God for you bro Eli!!!need help we are the church of God here following same doctrine but we here have another church of God claimin that sabbath and tithes should be followed I might end up having a debate this sunday.I am always watching your expos and really need your help.my Group here has been excumunicated from our cabanatuan branch amd are flying solo but arw keeping tabs on your doctrine because we beleive we are both affiliated to the original church.please send help
The reason we were excommunicated was we fought againts a new circular stating that tithing should be praacticed considering it was not part of the original doctrine which was what this church was founded…Im in japan with a few members but study in depth
And do believe that there are laws for Israelites headed by the prophets then later by the appstles excluding paul beacause paul was designated for the gentiles…us
ronald obidos of SDA posted this blog article on his facebook account, and of course, he is just using it make his own blog popular because no one is reading it…he is reading bro.eli’s blog…hope he’d be enlighten…
You know, its funny that God would write for His people ten laws… Then change His mind about number four. I am not a SDA but I do read my bible, and I must say that there is no biblical evidence for the keeping of Sunday as the day of the Lord or the Sabbath of His people. And in case anyone was wondering on who are Gods people… it’s defined in ROMANS 2:28-29 ……. Now … The new testament does speak about the sabbath… Hebrews 4: 9-11 ..THERE REMAINETH THEREFORE A REST TO THE PEOPLE OF GOD. FOR HE THAT IS ENTERED INTO HIS REST HE ALSO HAD CEASED FROM HIS OWN WORKS AS GOD DID FROM HIS……ETC Read the whole chapter its all on the sabbath….. Funny that Paul thought that he should address that topic….. I will leave on this note…… For that same reason God placed that tree in the middle of the Garden …. He placed the forth commandment within His law…… If you’re so clever …i’ll let you find out that reason on your own…………..
PS the bible is all we need…………….. Dont go chasing after everyone that claims to have thruth……..THE BIBLE NEVER LIES……
It is written:
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
when we read the text about Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill, the laws being talked about hear was not the law of the Father given to the Son Jesus which is to redeem , as Mr Soriano and other follwers were trying to mislead people. Please read all the verses down, please discover it, kasi ako ay ordinaryong magbabasa ng biblia pero pinuputol nyo kapag ang context. Ang pinaguusapan dito ay ang mismong kautusan para sa tao that Jesus also fulfilled to set us an example.