Greatest Religious Crime


The date May 21, 2011 will be long remembered like the fall of 1975 when the Jehovah’s Witnesses, through the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, predicted the coming of the Armageddon. Predictions by self-appointed prophets are old story being repeated again and again.

ECCLESIASTES 3:15

That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past. 

The saying “history repeats itself” is true. Human beings may die but the spirit of error since its inception to the world is still here!

I JOHN 4:6

We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error. 

Such spirit of error dwells in people who love to believe a lie more than the truth.

II THESSALONIANS 2:11-12

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 

The spirit of error which provoked the Seventh Day Adventists to predict that the coming of Christ will be on March 21, 1844 and then again on October 22, 1844 which both failed, is the same spirit that is now working within the group of Harold Camping that says that 21 May, 2011 is the end of the world!

I do not know if I will still be alive on May 21, 2011 but one thing is sure: this is another deception from the spirit of error that worketh in the children of disobedience.

EPHESIANS 2:2

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 

Maybe most of you will still be alive come May 21, 2011 to see the fulfillment of one of the most important predictions of the Bible:

I JOHN 4:1

Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 

MATTHEW 24:24

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 

Part of obedience is to believe on what we are taught to believe. The Lord Jesus Christ, who is the author and finisher of Christian belief or faith, once said:

MATTHEW 24:36

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 

Christian faith must be firmly established on the revealed truth, the word of God taught by the Lord Jesus Christ.

JOHN 17:17

Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. 

The truth is, “regarding that day and hour knoweth no man, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only!” Anybody giving an exact date on this God-appointed day will fail!

THE ACTS 17:31

Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. 

THE ACTS 1:7

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 

Heeding to these teachings of the Lord, a God-fearing preacher will never set a definite date for the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.

These are false prophets!

William Miller initially set the day for the return of Jesus Christ in 1843. When the second coming failed to occur, he set another date for March 21, 1844, which also failed and then another date for October 22, 1844, which again failed. The effect on the Millerite movement was a major disaster, and the failure of the return of Jesus Christ to appear was called the “Great Disappointment.” The failed prophecies of William Miller proved that he was a false prophet, not only because of their failure, but also because of the fact that he contradicted Scripture which says that only God knows the time of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ.

            (Source: http://www.ondoctrine.com/10sevadv.htm)

“End of the World” Prophecies

1914 was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of Armageddon by the Jehovah’s Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They computed 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings referred to “seven times”. The WTS interpreted each “time” as equal to 360 days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914 as the target date.

1914, 1918, 1920, 1925, 1941, 1975 and 1994 were other dates that the Watchtower Society predicted. 1975 looked likely as it was computed as the 6000th anniversary of the creation of Adam in the Garden of Eden in 4026 BCE. They interpreted Psalms 90:10 as defining the length of a generation to be 80 years. Since 1914 plus 80 equals 1994, they predicted Armageddon would occur around that year. The latest estimate was 6000 years after the creation of Eve, for which no date can be determined with any accuracy.

            (Source: http://www.preteristarchive.com/StudyArchive/t/theory_false-prophets.html)

DEUTERONOMY 18:22

When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him. 

The word translated here presumptuously is זדון – zâdôn which means arrogance.

It is the height of arrogance or boastfulness to directly contradict the written word of God in the Bible! William Miller, Ellen G. White, The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, Bang-Ik Ha, Harold Camping and many more are a gang of false prophets committing a syndicated crime which can be considered as the Greatest Religious Crime in the history of humanity!

Why do I believe that such false predictions constitute the greatest religious crime? It is because of these false preachers and prophets that there will be blasphemers and scoffers!

II PETER 3:3-4

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. 

Those who slaughtered the Jews and Christians in the past have committed an abominable crime against God and humanity, but the souls of the murdered Christians were not imperiled! But the greatest crime that can be committed by religious teachers is to endanger the salvation of souls due to misleading doctrines and beliefs!

The rise in number of scientists that reject the Bible is due to these scientists’ frustrations in false religions led by these false prophets. The increasing number of atheists worldwide is also caused by the imprudent interpretations of the Scriptures by these blind religious leaders! Is there any other crime greater than these crimes against God and humanity?

MATTHEW 15:14

Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch. 

It would have been better and harmless if Harold Camping went on just camping rather than preaching!


 

About Brother Eliseo F. Soriano
"But none of these things move me, neither do I count my life dear to myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus Christ, to testify fully the gospel of the grace of God." Acts 20:24

104 Responses to Greatest Religious Crime

  1. cemanes says:

    Thanks God for this article Bro. Eli. Certainly, this could open the eyes of those who believe William Miller, a real false prophet.

    Indeed, blind leaders of the blind are they, causing the flock to go astray. People must beware of those preachers whose methods of teaching are not consistent with God’s message.

    • Ibrahim santos says:

      Your praising Bro. Eli for this Article And declining william miller as a false prophet how sure you are that Bro.Eli is explaining to you the truth are you sure that all he post are the exact word of God….Astagfirlah,,,,,,, What you said is coming to you the blind assist by blind they go astray…read your bible…and understand the prophecies very well the answer is there.from old to new,they telling the last…..

      • JR MANGUNE says:

        We are sure because we read Bible.

      • charm says:

        hey ibrahim santos don’t ever defend something you cannot stand nor understand.

      • Winnie says:

        We know and feel from the bottom of our heart that Brod Eli Soriano is telling the truth because it makes PERFECT sense and very BIBLICAL. Excuse us, we are not blind. we have 20/20 vision thru the Bible and most of all God’s Holy Spirit.

        Ibrahim, we love you as our fellow in Chirst and we respect your opinion. All we ask of you is JUST open your heart. God bless…

  2. bambi says:

    Camping is a good Idea. Take it from the expert Mr Harold. :-)

    • Teroy357 says:

      Will his expertise are now bold to the public to be called craziness….

      • Angelo says:

        I remember a verse in the bible regarding that statement Teroy357… Listen to this…

        1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is foolishness to those being lost, but to us being saved, it is the power of God.

        The Church goal is to save men from these criminals of faith, you should be glad that there are true Christians that are exposing this reality. Satan is so cunning that he will deceive many. So be wise as the Lord wants us to be.

  3. jp says:

    it would be good h. camping would just go camping but it would be better if he will hang a millstone on his neck and drown in the depth of the sea.. he might offend others on to where he will camp.

  4. ReyLab says:

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY FOR HE HAS SENT THE MOST SENSIBLE PREACHER OF OUR TIME-BRO.ELI F. SORIANO-the faithful servant of God.THANKS BE TO GOD.

  5. Anak Ni Berto says:

    i hope he won’t go camping to hell. D:

  6. Mhike says:

    Thanks be to God for another sensible blog from a sensible preacher, Bro. Eli Soriano

  7. Romack Natividad says:

    To trust in the Words of the Lord and NOT unto the words of men are always instilled in the minds of the faithful followers of the Lord by the Guiding Holy Spirit, which guides Brother Eli Soriano.

    Surely, Harold Camping’s prediction is HOAX!

  8. megumitch says:

    A false prophet like Harold Camping is far more dangerous than a cut throat.

  9. Romeo Rubio says:

    I wish this excellent explanation be published in all newspapers in the Philippines to enlightened the Filipinos (and their souls be saved) who were being poisoned in their spiritual beliefs by these self proclaimed, false prophets.

    I thank God brother Eli for having you as our Preacher in our time!

  10. renan says:

    Amen…

    I thank God from the day I was born. He made me see his prophesy unfold little by little…

    Through Bro. Eli I have heard the truth…

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!

    • Sherlock says:

      Its too good to be true..I came from that group and sorry to say… its totally fake and its all about money & business.

      • renan says:

        2 Timothy 4:3

        For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.

  11. the saying goes on and on that when blind prophets leads you both of you will die. there goes another saying dont believe to the prophesy of self proclaimed prophets.coz everything will go bad as usual. Believe to God alone who really knows what is best for us

  12. Edmund S Pedro says:

    Indeed, I believed that many false prophets have gone out into the world. Every member of the Church of God International have to be very watchful and not to be deceived by these false prophets. We have to stand abreast with the doctrines taught to us by no other than our dear brother Eli as he reads everything from the bible.

    To God be the Glory always and forever.

  13. Edwin Anay says:

    We pray and hope that those who believed and follows this insane old man Harold Camping maybe awaken in their very deep sleep, for them to realize that his false prediction again is a great lie and that they should stop listening over his radio program. Try to watch and listen to Bro. Eli’s program THE OLD PATH and surely you will be enlightened to the true words of God in the Bible.

    Visit also our websites to check out for more details….
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  14. Romando Tipal says:

    Thanks be to God! May the followers of those false prophets be enlightened.. Long live bro Eli. To God be the Glory!!

  15. I like Bro. Eli’s good sense of humor.
    “It should have been better and harmless if Harold Camping went on just camping rather than preaching!” :-)

  16. Mark Andrew Arollado says:

    These prophets or I mean these puppets who are being driven by evil speaking of the things they really don’t know. Thanks be to God that there is bro. Eli who exposing this kind of stupidity. ¡gracias a Dios!

  17. alwin estorninos says:

    its better to fallow what is written in the scriptures,through the help of our sensible preacher bro eli soriano and bro. daniel which sent us by GOD to enlighten our mine. to GOD be the GLORY!!!!!!!!

  18. Jo Cervania says:

    thanks be to God, this is a very high time article for the members of false preachers like Camping.

    thanks be to God, we have bro. Eli to lead us to truth.

  19. jasmine arrosa says:

    No one knows when will be the judgement day..

    “To God be the Glory”

    Thanks Bro. Eli =)

  20. Gepalta Sagrada says:

    Bro. Eli Soriano, the world’s walking Bible and the Bible scholar of all Bible scholars.

  21. thepenguinsmind says:

    So, where is Harold Camping camping at this moment? This article should be read by the world, translated in many languages, so that all will learn – that nobody can predict the coming of Christ and the end of the world. I thank God he sent Bro. Eli Soriano to enlighten us with these things.

    • glenn says:

      agreed!! this should be read by the world so that they will not believe if somebody will predict again!

  22. thepenguinsmind says:

    The May 21 judgment day that this Camping is saying is really not true. One of the reasons is that – Bro. Eli is having Bible Expo this May 24. May souls are still out there waiting for enlightenment. Camping does not have a soul for others. Pathetic. He should listen to Bro. Eli so he will know how to behave – properly – and avoid saying stupid things, like this May 21 day of judgment thing.

  23. Bambi says:

    Truly Mr Camping’s false prophecy is a great hoax. Total insanity! My father tried to slept the whole day thinking and fearing it is true. He said “I’ll sleep the whole day so when it happen I won’t feel a thing”. Camping you made a fool out of my father and I hate you for doing that. I’ve been battling words with my father all night so he could stay calm. May the Lord rebuke you! But I do understand and happy about this for at the end of this day my father will realize that you are a GREAT LIE! like your father.

    John 8:44 (King James Version)
    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

    I thank God that we have a Bro. Eli that will put an end to your insanity.

  24. Johnny Mallari Chang Jr. says:

    Attn: Mr. Camping, Mr. Dawson & false prophets… You better read and understand the Proverbs 1:24-29, Deut.32:39…Keep on goin, tatay Eli & Kuya Daniel…

  25. Edwin Anay says:

    After his 6pm countdown to his self proclaimed armageddon, the first one to be destroyed will be his radio program full of fantasies and lies.

  26. Jennife Monteza says:

    Thanks be to God for having brother Eli who teach us the truth and lead us to salvation.
    May God Bless you and keep you always.
    To God be the Glory!

  27. Armand Félj says:

    Thank goodness the judgment is not today!!! There are so much more souls to be saved!!! (2 Peter 3.15)

    Thanks for posting Bro. Eli! To GOD be the glory!!!
    ~Armand Félj

  28. whew! why ever claim that wild prediction if it is clearly written in MATTHEW 24:36 that…
    :But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”
    Did he read the bible???!!! hehehehe very stupid claim..Camping instead of “COMING” HAHAHAHAHA

  29. Jack says:

    Please don’t compare Jehova’s Withness with this sick old man. thanks

  30. tons says:

    …we are very lucky because we have bro eli and bro daniel who really know the truth in the bible ! thanks be to God!

  31. angelito dulay says:

    paging harold camping and all his followers, today you must listen to BRO.ELI SORIANO,MASS INDOCTRIATION,INTERNATIONAL,available in you place so that you will know the TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. MAY GOD BLESS YOU.

  32. alvin manlapaz says:

    very thanks be to God we have Bro.Eli soriano all the time to propagate the God word

  33. nell says:

    camping is an old man deceiver, just few times left for him and yet still has the guts to deceived people..May God have mercy on him on the true judgment day.

  34. Another false prophet.
    Thanks be to God for a good insights Bro Eli. :)

  35. Jeefer says:

    Thank GOD i’m not a member of Harold Camping’s church…it despises me by the mere thought of it…..THANK GOD FOR Brod. Eli Soriano.

  36. Richell says:

    I pray fervently to GOD about your good health as you were trying to find remedy the health of every bretheren who ask for your help. I love you my parents in the LORD.

  37. glenn says:

    “It would have been better and harmless if Harold Camping went on just camping rather than preaching!” – bro eli

    I absolutely AGREE with bro eli!!!
    Now look, wheres is the prophesy of camping??????

  38. rod gonzales says:

    It’s just like shouting there’s a fire and create panic to people but in reality no fire happening is a crime like camping did, he can be consider a criminal

  39. Erwin Bartolome says:

    Thanks be to God for somebody like Bro Eli! Through him, we will not be misled by false preachers in our time…To God Be The Glory!!!

  40. I agree.
    These false preachers poisoned the minds of many people. They let the people believe the lie as truth. They are truly blinds and makers of more blind eyes.
    That’s why the world needs you Bro. Eli, you have my support!

  41. Monico Punzalan says:

    Those on the side of the EVIL will never understand like Camping.His predictions which failed twice already should open the minds of his followers.

  42. gladys martinez says:

    a false prophet .. has no sign of victory,, we have to burried his prophecy of LIE………

  43. reynel says:

    But NEITHER anybody can claim righteousness over and above ANYBODY . Religion is still religion…and that being sad NO RELIGION will save anybody! This is just a piece of news that not anyone should celebrate about. So, what’s the big deal? Trying to prove that one sect or religion says the truth and the other is not? This is not the way we should look at this matter. GOD has the sole POWER to declare anything on EARTH ..and NO ONE else. Hope that this is clear to all Christians and non-Christians as well. This is just another Publicity which is purely man-made and for which God never interceded nor blessed.

    • roy says:

      From where did you get that NO RELIGION will save anybody? From the Bible? What verse? Could you share it to us if you are sure of what you are saying?

      Thanks…..

    • AB says:

      Genesis 28:17
      He was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is none other than the HOUSE OF GOD; this is the GATE OF HEAVEN.”

      1 Timothy 3:15
      but if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how men ought to behave themselves in the HOUSE OF GOD, which is the CHURCH OF THE LIVING GOD, the pillar and ground of the truth.

  44. Eros says:

    Great Trick By the False Prophet….
    May 21 is already Done….

  45. i agree to bro.Eli. May God be with all of us!

  46. Beiruth says:

    Even if what they say is true, I will not beleive on them.

    Deu 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
    Deu 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them;
    Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.

  47. jayson custodio says:

    Amen.. Thanks be to God we have preachers who can really understand the will of our Lord. May the Lord enlightened the minds of those people who believes in the false predictions of camping.

  48. EYES says:

    Nice comments brother eli, how about your view about the controversial RH bill in the phils. hope you will tackle this issue soon. thanks

  49. Rr says:

    “It would have been better and harmless if Harold Camping went on just camping rather than preaching!”

    -haha.. yeah !

    To God Be the Glory !

  50. Thanks to God! The article is so nice and I can’t explain the feeling I had when I read about this!
    “It would have been better and harmless if Harold Camping went on just camping rather than preaching!”
    -I do agree at the statement above! Instead of saving a number of souls, false prophets do the opposite!

    Thanks be to God for having Bro. Eli Soriano! Many people will brighten their minds and their beliefs especially the Doom’s Day believers about the “End of the World” when they read this article! :)

  51. MARY ADELY ALEJANO says:

    It is better that we must listen to the most sensible preacher of our present time, no other than Brother Eli
    Soriano. He is a very honest and most concerned preacher for the salvation of our soul, so that we could be
    acceptable to our God the Father in heaven.We must listen to the program of THE OLD PATH, and obey the
    the commandments of GOD,so that we could live in this peacefully. We will learn more than what have learned by the college professional by means of listening the word of God, that Bro.Eli preach in the world.
    TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!

  52. Rey Lacon says:

    Bro.ELI kindly unmask all those false preacher.GOD BLESS

  53. Romero A. Holgado says:

    May God Almighty bless us all who are in this blog. We want to thank Bro Eli for this very timely topic. As has been prophesied, there will appear “false” prophets, and pretenders. Camping is just one of the many, whose real motives are actually to enrich themselves, and to gain popularity, and social influence.

    What is sad is the multitude who are duped by these false messengers who abound in many corners of the world, attracting ignorant, and unsuspecting believers. The best thing for us to do is to double up our efforts to help Bro Eli and Bro Daniel and the brethrens in the MCGI in the big mission to spread the TRUTH of God in spite of the threats, trumped-up cases, and all forms of persecution from the enemy.

    In the web sites, blogs, media, and in all medium, we will go on supporting Bro Eli and Bro Daniel, not only in terms of the much needed cash, but by way of volunteerism that will support the other ways to redeem the many sinners.

  54. annette says:

    Mr Camping you are already old and in a year or two you might not be around , the saddest part of it , at this point in time you havent arrive to the knowledge of truth but instead making up stories and recruiting peopel to believe in your false fantasy .The bible is really true ever learning but never able to come to the knowledge of truth 2 Timothy 3:7 . Camping before you teach other teach first yourself , you and your disgusting prediction . FALSE PROPHET ! FALSE PREACHER!

  55. Akiva says:

    To God be the glory !
    We have Bro.Eli and Bro.Daniel in this days .

  56. boyet manalo says:

    False prophets beware.With God’s help, Bro. Eli will expose YOU.To God be the glory.

  57. superlucky20 says:

    Jesus said this:

    25Behold, I have told you before.

    26Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    27For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    28For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

    29Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    32Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

    33So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.

    34Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. –Matthew 24:25-34 (KJV)

    ———————————————————

    I guess Jesus is like Harold Camping, William Miller and Charles Taze Russell. They were all WRONG.

    • superluckiy20, what are you trying to say? i know you are an atheist, so, we don’t care. God rebuke you. Now, tell us what you have.

    • Vic says:

      Hey superlucky20,

      Do not use the verse of the bible that you yourself don’t believe yourself!

      And do not inject ideas to others which you yourself are not sure;

      “I guess Jesus is like Harold Camping, William Miller and Charles Taze Russell. They were all WRONG.”

      You atheist are talking non-sense to a very sensible topic…

      In the end you will find yourself kneeling to Jesus which you do not believed.

      THE ROMANS 14:11
      For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

  58. Steve says:

    @superlucky20

    Interesting verses but, have you actually read AND paid attention to what they say? You quoted one verse that is typically kept away from believers by preachers because of what it says. Look at the last verse you have listed (Matthew 24:34) “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

    Read that again.
    Read it one more time. Now, tell me………did those things happen before that generation passed??

    • superlucky20 says:

      Those things did not happen even until Jesus’ generation passed. Therefore, Jesus was WRONG. Just like Harold Camping, William Miller and Charles Taze Russell.

      • Vic says:

        @superlucky

        Giving your own conclusion of things you do not understand completely is very wrong!

        Where in the bible did you read that the generation Jesus is talking is his generation?
        “Those things did not happen even until Jesus’ generation passed.”

        You will not understand because you don’t believe!

        PSALMS 53:1
        The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, doing abominable iniquity; there is none that does good.

  59. Considering the numerous souls that this man can take with him to hell, how I like the last sentence!

  60. Steve says:

    @superlucky20

    Never heard back from you or anyone else!. What’s the answer to:
    “did those things happen before that generation passed??”

  61. @ superlucky20: CHRIST said “this generation”, not “My generation”.

    CHRIST can never be wrong. You are the one who’s obviously wrong, and careless in opening your mouth (or moving your fingers, lol).

    Btw, are you an atheist, and, do you believe the whole Bible?

    • superlucky20 says:

      Aha! So “this generation” (i.e., the generation that he is in right then) is not the same as “my generation”? Double-speak at its finest. What can I say? In effect, you’re implying that “this generation” can mean any generation, right?

      “CHRIST can never be wrong.” There seems to be a problem with how Christians like you approach logic. I call it Bizarro logic. It’s like saying the Pope is infallible. You can’t say that something is not wrong IN THE FUTURE. That’s not possible. Being wrong or right is not a permanent state. You can only say something is wrong when it happens or has happened. To find out if something is wrong, you find instances where something went wrong. And Jesus was wrong. Dead wrong. So Christ can be wrong contrary to Bizarro logic. And Bizarro logic dictates that if Jesus actually did something wrong, you find loopholes to show that it’s not Jesus that’s wrong but logic itself that’s wrong.

      I’m an atheist. See God’s Power is the Missing Link.

      • i don’t know what nationality you are, nor do I claim to be good in the English language, but you are misunderstanding things.

        To simplify, take this example. Mat 23:33 >> … ye generation of vipers… >> this refers to the scribes and Pharisees. Each one of us has his own generation. The same verse is connected to Mat. 23:36 >> … “this generation…” which refers to the same set of peope.

        Now, “this generation” in Mat. 24:34 refers to them, CHRIST, and the ones HE is talking to, HIS disciples. CHRIST is discussing things which will happen in the future, and obviously not in HIS own time. Actually, they are now happening in our (us) generation; I refer to me and you.

        So what is the generation being referred to then? It is the Christian generation, which is different from the generation of Pharisees and also the generation during the time of Moses and the “fathers” discussed in verse 23.

        “The pope is infallible” >> this is catholic illusion, not a Christian belief.

        I can say that the statement “the sun will grow smaller than the a pin head 100 years from now” is very wrong, right now, even if it has not yet happened! I don’t know where you are getting all the “logic” you have my friend. Think twice before posting anything.

        Lastly, please answer my question: Do you believe that the words in the Bible are true?

  62. Steve says:

    @Jezreel B. Magbanua

    Generations are referred to in these verses the same way that we currently refer to a generation.
    In each case it refers to the life span of an individual.

    Genesis 11:10
    Genesis 10:32
    Genesis 11:27
    Genesis 10:1
    Genesis 6:9
    Genesis 5:1

    • superlucky20 says:

      Exactly, Steve. That’s what I mean by Bizarro logic by Christians. They don’t use it consistently. They bend it to their favor. All the time.

      • Jezreel B. Magbanua says:

        @ superlucky: there’s no bending whatsoever, if you understand that words have various meaning depending on application. You need to understand first that sentence, or you can check the preceding sentences. Steve is illogically pointing out that the word “generation” will only mean one thing all through out the Bible. it’s like saying that the word “father” will be the same anywhere on the Bible, like Aaron’s father is also the one being called by David “father”. That’s stupid logic.

        Consistency is applied when you define a word using the Bible itself, not using the opinions of false pastors or prophets. But for definitions, it will vary, of course. Like the word “earth” which can mean a soil, land or the planet, which is also different with the word “world”. Like saying the word “international” is different from “worldwide”. Is there anything bended? Or is it the one reading that has a bended mind?

  63. Steve says:

    @Jezreel B. Magbanua

    When the Bible uses the word “Generation” it implies either 70 or 80 years.

    26 Psalms 90:10
    The years of our lives are 70; and if by reason of strength they be 80 years, yet most of them are labor and sorrow; for life is soon cut off and we fly away.

    41 Matthew 1:17
    Therefore all the generations from Abraham down to David are 14 generations; and from David down to the Babylonian captivity are 14 generations; and from the Babylonian captivity down to messiah, are 14 generations

    The Psalm 90 definitions of Generation (70 or 80 years) are used to tell a specific chronological time story.

  64. Jezreel B. Magbanua says:

    @ steve: you don’t understand. please avoid interpreting the Bible with your own logic; it’s dangerous.

    Did it say in Psalms 90:10 that a generation is either 70 or 80 years? It said “our lives”, not “people’s lives” or “all lives”. And in Matthew 1:17, not all generations have 70 or 80 years, like Abraham who was circumcised at the age of 99.

    FYI, “generation” has many definitions, even when you ask Mr. Noah. Don’t limit it with the lifespan of an individual. I’ve shown already Matthew 23 as example, if you have read it. If you don’t accept that very clear example, then you have a big problem in yourself.

    Using the only definition that you know, considering that CHRIST is talking to HIS contemporaries, then, obviously, HE is not referring to the “generation” that you are saying. CHRIST is not stupid, definitely!

    Please be careful in interpreting the Bible. Be frightened of the consequences. If you think you are a very logical person, then try to ridicule Bro. Eli in his live expositions and Q & A’s and stop posting here. In that way, you can “open” the eyes of more people than being famous only here.

    • superlucky20 says:

      This is the Bizarro logic I am talking about. You are doing it right now: you said: “Using the only definition that you know, considering that CHRIST is talking to HIS contemporaries, then, obviously, HE is not referring to the “generation” that you are saying. CHRIST is not stupid, definitely!”

      Which squares exactly with what I said: “And Bizarro logic dictates that if Jesus actually did something wrong, you find loopholes to show that it’s not Jesus that’s wrong but logic itself that’s wrong.” It’s not Jesus that’s wrong, it’s the word “generation” that’s wrong! See? Jesus should be able to apply logic at its own merits, not bend it when it contradicts him.

      • it is not you people here, or anybody would say here that Jesus Christ has not committed sin or get wrong, nobody would ever say that..it is God that tells us that Jesus Christ did not commit sin, or even white lies found in His tongue. We firmly believe when God said that Jesus His Begotten Son did not sin, because this God is a God that cannot lie… and will never lie, which where our faith rests and have understanding of the things to come from God. This God is where our hope, and have our being. To you atheist, God is speaking to you and God loves whoever you are. Believe in Him and believe in Jesus. You can not wrest against God, i tell you.

  65. Jezreel B. Magbanua says:

    @ superlucky20: your reasoning is ridiculous. Logic is not wrong, but the definition being applied to the word “generation”. Do you mean “generation” has only one meaning? Dictionaries show various meanings for a word.

    The problem is not in the logic, nor in CHRIST, but in the mind of those who refuse to understand the words in the Bible. Like how atheists are pointing out that wherever in the Bible that you read the word “earth” it only means a planet, which is a stupid argument! Then they accuser the Bible of pointing out a flat earth. And they will call themselves scientific people.

    And another correction, JESUS is not bending logic and logic doesn’t contradict him. Many readers are just shallow minded when it comes to interpreting the Scriptures.

    Think before you post, and don’t accuse JESUS of your Bizarro logic. It all came form your mind.

  66. benz says:

    …the man God is that of telling things the things of God not of his own but God’s…Bro Eli is telling things of God to the world coming from Holy Bible…he reads. Where is the debate there?

  67. gerard castro says:

    Jesus will not in anyway contradict himself..lean not on your own interpretation & understanding, keep an open mind..preconceived ideas are difficult to part with.

  68. wooksal says:

    i can concur with all the article

  69. Brother Eli I have a Question to ask The title of this thread says, “Greatest Religious Crime.” It then goes on to talk about false prophecy. I agree that is a religious crime but what makes that religious crime (sin) any greater than any other religious crime (sin)?

    • mateopage says:

      To Joselito Arellano,

      Greetings.

      Bro. Eli said above is this: “But the greatest crime that can be committed by religious teachers is to endanger the salvation of souls due to misleading doctrines and beliefs!”
      False prophecy is just a sample of misleading beliefs of these false preachers. So anything that will endanger one’s salvation is a greatest religious crime. Because salvation is the most important thing in this world:

      Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
      Mar 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

  70. JOHN WRIDER says:

    No man know the day or the hour, but the signs are revealed to us everyday!! Go to helltruth dot com

    • the Whit says:

      John Wrider,

      I went to your helltruth.com website but I find Bro. Eli’s:

      TheOldPath.TV
      AngDatingDaan.org
      EliSoriano.com
      ESoriano.wordpress.com
      Livestream.com/EliSoriano
      DanielRazon.com

      more worthy of my time.

      Thanks anyway for dropping by.

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