A Bunch of Ignorance and a Mammoth of Delusion


To be ignorant may be pardonable because it is not being hopeless, but to delude oneself is another.

After claiming that the wine in the cup of the Catholic priest is the real blood of the Lord Jesus by the process of transubstantiation, here comes Catholic apologetics saying that their mass is an unbloody manner of sacrificing Jesus Christ – something they do-again and again.

First off, history records that Catholics had arguments as to what transubstantiation would mean in their ritual of the Eucharist: whether wine becomes blood and the bread, the body of Christ, but the appearance of the substance of wine and bread are still the same; or whether wine really becomes the blood of Christ, and the bread his body. In the first, the change is in the meaning as thought so in the mid-twentieth century; in the second, it is literal.  Pope Paul VI was saying so in 1965 with finality: it is the literal body and blood of Christ. And now, they find comfort that transubstantiation has plunged back to emphasizing that wine is still wine in appearance, bread is still bread in appearance, but those are equally still the body and blood of Christ. It now has a different name: Real Presence (Source: Britannica Concise Encyclopedia: transubstantiation).

Still and all, even to the uninformed, that is double-speak of the highest degree and thriving in delusion, just so to continue in a practice not commanded in the Bible. Here is the defense:

“There can be no question of a grievous offense against Christ Himself unless we suppose that the true Body and the true Blood of Christ are really present in the Eucharist.” (Source: Online Catholic Encyclopedia. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/05573a.htm).

If what is in the cup is the real blood of Jesus, how can the mass be an unbloody sacrifice?  If what is in the cup is only symbolic blood, it is also symbolically bloody, doesn’t it follow?

Someone criticizing me said that I misappropriated the prophecy in Malachi 1:11 for me after which she claims that it is rightfully for the Catholic Church, for they are the only group that has the incense mentioned in the prophecy.  Let us read,

MALACHI 1:11 (KJV)

 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

I dare say, this verse does not apply to the Catholic Church for the simple reason that they do not understand the verse!  The incense mentioned in the prophecy is not the literal incense that Catholic priests burn at their altars! Notice what is said in this verse. 

REVELATION 5:8 (RSV)

 And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

How can literal incense reach God’s throne when it cannot even penetrate into the atmosphere?  That they in the Catholic Church do not know the meaning of the verse they are appropriating for themselves is certainly misappropriation!

The sacrifice that Christians should always offer is not the Lord Jesus Christ for when He offered Himself in Calvary He made an offering “once for all and once forever.” The Bible says so.

HEBREWS 10:12 (KJV)

 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;

And what is that sacrifice that Christians should offer to God? Take note that it is not something outside of the one doing the sacrifice.

HEBREWS 13:15 (KJV)

 By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

Prayers and praises are the sacrifice that we should offer again and again to God, “that is the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His name,” and not the mass of the misled Catholics.  It jives with the prophecy in Malachi that says, “My name shall be great among the Gentiles.”

Praying and praising His name is symbolic of the incense which is pure sacrifice that will reach the throne of the Almighty!  It is not something material, for then, not everyone would have access to it. It is not something readily found in those who prefer to delude themselves by way of ascribing spiritual presence to bread and wine that they call Christ’s body and blood – which they offer again and again.

And mind you, the greatness of His name will be known from the east to the west, not otherwise!

The Catholic Church started its mission of misleading people from the west! Beginning with their rituals, they really do mislead a lot.

90 thoughts on “A Bunch of Ignorance and a Mammoth of Delusion

  1. “The Catholic Church started its mission of misleading people from the west! Beginning with their rituals, they really do mislead a lot.” ~ This is just sooo TRUE! Can’t agree enough.. Thanks be to GOD for we have Bro. Eli Soriano.

    • Kat says:

      “The Catholic Church started its mission of misleading people from the west! Beginning with their rituals, they really do mislead a lot.” ~ This is just sooo TRUE! Can’t agree enough.. Thanks be to GOD for we have Bro. Eli Soriano.”

      Reply:

      You see Mr. Eli Soriano how ignorant your followers are especially Kat saying; “The Catholic Church started its mission of misleading people from the west!” Why not tell them the truth about the true history of the Catholic Church… instead of exposing their ignorance in your blog.

      • hello @Odan, I think it is your obligation to tell the truth about the true history of the Catholic church if you disagree with Kat. Post it here or put a link, its easy right.

        Bro. Eli already exposed it and still you are blind to see the truth about your beloved catholic church.

        Ignorance is pardonable but delusion is another story…as Bro. Eli said.

  2. to Odan Matig-a and winnie

    Pls attend one of our bible expositions and prove your point there! though I have a feeling that you wont, I still I DARE you!

  3. It never fails me to feel amazed every time Bro. Eli answers those who criticize what he teaches. The more they refute, the more the ember of light shines brighter! God is really faithful in providing answers through a faithful preacher! To God be the glory!

  4. Amen!

    Once again by way of this blog site, the most sensible preacher of this generation has preached about God’s Words of Wisdom in its pure and undefiled form straight from the bible.

    Any attempt from the forces of evil with deceptive interpretation to pollute the minds of brethren from in and out of the Church of God would just be exercise in futility. Besides, God’s Words are written in the hearts of believers and the same will not be erased!

    Thanks be to God and to Him be the glory!

  5. You are Peter and upon this rock I will build my church. Keys to the kingdom. Binding and loosing of sins. John 6.

    One church. One authority. Jesus didnt build churches, plural. There is but one authoritative church. Which are you in? When did it start? Have you asked a serious catholic their explanation?

    Ask God to open your heart as to His One church, against whom the gates of hell will not prevail

    • @James, hi

      one church – the true church in the Bible – the Church of God

      one authority – from God

      one doctrine – doctrine from God, taught by Christ, taught by apostles, taught by the messenger sent by God

      one reference – the Bible

      now, have you ever asked yourself if you are “IN” the true church, given by one Authority, with one doctrine and be read from the Bible and taught by His chosen messenger?

      if your answer is No, its time to go out. And search! Investigate!

      • Why God let Satan build so many things in His (God’s) Creation ?

        Why God had to sacrifice his Son on the cross as if God had to pay a fine to a Higher Authority ?

  6. **************** :)) *****************

    WINNIE Comments in the previous article entitled “Still Stuck on Mass and the Eucharist” and she said:

    “Malachi 1:11 prophecy refers to the Holy Mass or the Holy Eucharist that we offer to God. Christ Jesus is PURE and perfect sacrifice which the Catholic Church continously offer for the forgiveness of sin.Come to our Church and see for yourself the fulfillment of this Prophecy for at the Mass we have Christ as our sacrifice on our altars and we also use incense. For from the rising of the Sun to its setting my name is great among the nations,and every place INCENSE is offered to my name, and a PURE OFFERING; for my name is great among nations says the Lord of hosts.”

    BRO ELI Replied:

    “Someone criticizing me said that I misappropriated the prophecy in Malachi 1:11 for me after which she claims that it is rightfully for the Catholic Church, for they are the only group that has the incense mentioned in the prophecy. Let us read,

    MALACHI 1:11 (KJV)

    For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts.

    I dare say, this verse does not apply to the Catholic Church for the simple reason that they do not understand the verse! The incense mentioned in the prophecy is not the literal incense that Catholic priests burn at their altars! Notice what is said in this verse.

    REVELATION 5:8 (RSV)

    And when he had taken the scroll, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the Lamb, each holding a harp, and with golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of the saints;

    How can literal incense reach God’s throne when it cannot even penetrate into the atmosphere? That they in the Catholic Church do not know the meaning of the verse they are appropriating for themselves is certainly misappropriation!

    The sacrifice that Christians should always offer is not the Lord Jesus Christ for when He offered Himself in Calvary He made an offering “once for all and once forever.” The Bible says so.

    HEBREWS 10:12 (KJV)

    But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down on the right hand of God;

    And what is that sacrifice that Christians should offer to God? Take note that it is not something outside of the one doing the sacrifice.

    HEBREWS 13:15 (KJV)

    By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.

    Prayers and praises are the sacrifice that we should offer again and again to God, “that is the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His name,” and not the mass of the misled Catholics. It jives with the prophecy in Malachi that says, “My name shall be great among the Gentiles.”

    Praying and praising His name is symbolic of the incense which is pure sacrifice that will reach the throne of the Almighty! It is not something material, for then, not everyone would have access to it. It is not something readily found in those who prefer to delude themselves by way of ascribing spiritual presence to bread and wine that they call Christ’s body and blood – which they offer again and again.

    And mind you, the greatness of His name will be known from the east to the west, not otherwise!

    The Catholic Church started its mission of misleading people from the west! Beginning with their rituals, they really do mislead a lot.

    **************** :)) *****************

    IT MAKES ME LAUGH :)) I pity about winnie, she is TOTALLY ignorant. Hope God will open her heart for her to realized that she is defending a WORTHLESS Faith that even POPE cant defend it!!!

    • Some people do laughs on to what they don’t understand,others even ridicules it.
      In this case, ADD members laughs at the things they have no clue what is truly the Eucharist.

      Certainly, I think I hit a nerve that made Bro. Eli made a response. In like manner all his followers are waiting for their preacher to destroy my argument. They felt that my case is very strong indeed.Yet, who could be better than their “pantas”.besides he is the one and only sensible preacher. They see him like one of the biblical character that speaks the truth,so anything he says is to them a Gospel truth.
      To all ADD members with my heart and tears from my eyes I am so sad to tell you that you were deceived.

      Let me start with the verse of prophecy written in the old Testament. Malachi 1:11″For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles;and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name,and pure offering:for my name shall be great among heathens,said the Lord of hosts”
      This verse was used by bro Eli in his article ” From the East to the west” in which he claims that there is a prophecy that pertains to the Philippines and this is the East that Malachi 1:11 is referring to, thus when Bro Eli when to the west part of the globe then he grab this verse for himself, viola!!! Prophecy fulfilled- from the rising(east) to the west.
      Bro Eli is literalist in his personal interpretation of the Bible.Where as we Catholic are literal in approach not unless otherwise requires.
      To tell you an example of his interpretation is this phrase”its raining cats and dogs” him being a literalist would interprete it as,” cats and dogs falling from the sky, where us catholics would have the literal meaning, that it is “raining heavily.”
      This is how he interpreted this phrase,” for from the rising of the sun and unto the going down of the same(west). He thought that this is a “direction”. That the preaching of the gospel is from him, who is from the Philippines and now he is in the west.
      He doesnt know that it doen’t metion any movement of direction, rather it is a prophecy that the” whole world” his name made known and worship, it tells about the extent. An example to illustrate this is imagine aparcel of land let say, 1 hectar, I will say that “from this site to that site is the extent of my property”.
      Furthermore, notice that there are only two direction mentioned, the east and the west. Does it mean that God discriminates the people from the south and north? Of course not! When God said,”from East to west” He means all places,and this sounds “catholic “or universal.
      We also know that the preaching was indeed started in Jerusalem. Jesus gave the mission to the Apostles to preach, teach, and baptise”all nation”(hence, Catholic)(Matthew28:19-20)Christ sent St.Paul to Rome, then he went also to Spain and of course you know history that followed how we in the Philippines became Christians.
      From Jerusalem to the Philippines thats reality and not delusions.

      • oh.. we understand very well that your so called teaching are not the real teachings of jesus and that is a fact…he he he and we laugh because we know what we are saying and all our belief comes from the teaching of the messiah not like your belief comes from the pope who cannot defend his belief

      • that’s your “strong” argument? please. don’t underestimate us and compare us to the blind followers of the catholic church. we know how to distinguish a powerful and solid argument from some cheap and desperate one. perhaps the reason why bro eli responded was because your argument is too silly. and i’m so sorry, i laughed so hard when you made mention regarding the discrimination of the north and south people because they arent mentioned in the scripture, and how you confine your catholic god in a 2-dimensional grid. HAHAHA. know what? if there’s something the LORD would want us to laugh about, it’s the works of the devil. and that’s exactly what we’re doing, mocking the devil. you’re pushing yourself too hard in giving counter arguments, and you know it, youre just having a hard time submitting to the Truth. remember, only God can provide the right answers.

        btw, i’m not a member of ADD. i’m an unlucky baby deprived of a choice and was baptized because of catholic tradition. so that makes me a catholic too. i’m here reading bro Eli’s blog because like others i’m in search of the Truth, i want to seek the Kingdom of God. i tried to understand other beliefs too, so i’m not as ignorant as you think. and i believe my spiritual journey had brought me to a place where all the pieces fit in place, and everything makes logical sense. thank the LORD for the Wisdom!

      • and another thing, if you can’t understand bro Eli, that’s not our problem. it takes wisdom. just quit making blasphemous claims like “apostle Peter was our first pope!” it gets pretty annoying especially if it isn’t backed up.

      • Winnie’s faults:

        “Bro Eli is literalist in his personal interpretation of the Bible.” – no evidence for this; reckless post

        “from this site to that site is the extent of my property” – an evidence of Winnie’s fearless post of ignorance; her understanding of the Bible is as shallow as her priests. The Bible doesn’t say worthless things as saying “from the rising of the sun up to the going down of the same”, then it means nothing but only shows extent. The prophet should have said “up to the ends of the world” or “in all the world”. Poor winnie; you’re funny

        “Furthermore, notice that there are only two direction mentioned, the east and the west. Does it mean that God discriminates the people from the south and north?” – winnie is being stupid. There are many verses in the Bible. Why confine yourself to Malachi 1:11? You’re being reckless.

        A blind following the blind priests. I hope Bro. Eli will not be wasting time in this seemingly hopeless aplogetics.

  7. Thanks be to God, despite of hectic schedules of Bro. Eli in spreading the word of God, he still find time to expound Biblical arguments that no priests/evangelists/pastors can do.

  8. I touched 6 Religions because I was looking for the Truth(s). Today, I have no Religion at all.

    On the TiME LINE OF HISTORY, Men have modified many things to adjust with the requirements and Beliefs of the Crowds at certain Time in History. At certain time, the Crowds were not well educated, and they had to be taught with examples like the Sacrifice during the Mass in the Roman Catgolic Rituals. The Crowds believed and were happy at that time. Then, it was not possible to change, as if to say that the Roman Catgholics were in Error, were ignorant, made mistakes etc. So, they keep on with that Ritual(s). Obviously, no one is stupid enough in this modern world to accept that the Wine is the Blood of Christ and the Bread is His Body, not even modern Roman Catholics believed this stupidity, but just take it for granted !

    There are many things that are difficult to accept in our Human Modern Logic. For example, in the beginning there was God and he created all things directly or indirectly. The Sins were created by God’s imperfect Angel, Lucifer ! How could God create an imperfect Angel if He was a perfect God ?

    • you already said it, those questions cannot be validly answered by human logic. unless you’re some sort of god whos able to transcend the laws of logic.

      let me ask you a question: what is your view about “free will”? is it a good thing or a bad thing? if you answered it’s a good thing, then there’s your imperfect angel. if your answer is it’s a bad thing… that’s “free will” at work. you can’t “say” it’s a bad thing because God is the creator and provider of everything good. but because we have the gift of ‘free will’ we’re able to “say” it’s a bad thing.
      see how dirty philosophy can get? that’s why we have to have faith at some point.

      • Did GOD make Free Will inherent in his Lucifer so that Lucifer may choose to sin ? Then, Free Will is a bad thing ! If all were made inherent with a One Will that will continously be beneficial without Sin, the the Unique Will that will not sin would be the best inherent thing that God could have put in all of us ! I do not need a Free Will to enable me to sin !

    • Hello @judexxy22,

      Please keep on reading Bro. Eli’s blog, we may not know, one of this day you will accept that his teaching is true (from the Lord Jesus Christ) and very different from the other great religions out there.

      Let me read you Genesis 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

      See, God created everything very good. But why suddenly lucifer became imperfect? What happened? I believe you knew already that God can see the heart of His creation, angels and men.

      Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
      Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

      It is lucifer’s own will to be imperfect.

      This is just a bird’s eyeview, as I have said, please keep on reading and listening to bro. Eli, in his livestream, at http://www.livestream.com/broelisoriano for more knowledge and wisdom.

      • Hi,

        If you maintain that God knows the hearts of Men etc., I have a Question as follows :

        “Adam and Eve hid themselves before the face of God. Then, God had to call them. ”

        So, do you think that Adam and Eve could hide themselves and God could not see them and had to call them ?

        For me, with my human logic, it appears not possible to hide before the face of God.

        If Lucifer did wrong, it was because he had that inherent ability to do wrong. Who put that inherent ability to do wrong into him ? He had a Free Will and we are back to square one in our human logic !

        If we have to accept the Bible verses, then we do not discuss at all !!!!!

      • Hello again Judex,

        Thanks for dropping by and to your comment above, please continue reading Bro. Eli’s blog, it’s incomparable.

        As per your comment above, you already affirmed as per your human logic that it is impossible to hide before God, yes it is Biblical truth.

        But I disagree on your quote ” If Lucifer did wrong, it was because he had that inherent ability to do wrong. Who put that inherent ability to do wrong into him ?” With this quote of yours, you presumed that the one created the angels etc, put an inherent ability to do wrong, which is WRONG. What’s inherent to God’s creation is GOODNESS, because the CREATOR is GOOD.

        Psa 100:5 For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.

    • @judexy22

      Even though you don’t believe in the Bible, it’s good that you took notice of bro. Eli’s endeavor, which is to teach all things about the TRUTH.

      On the other hand, it’s great thing to know that you are not like Odan Matig-a, Winnie, etc., who, like you said, believe in all stupid rituals of the Roman Catholics.

      I must say you are one of the millions of victims of false religions, false preachers, who, because of their (false preachers) stupidity and incorrigible lies, have turned many away from God.

      Just a suggestion, if you accept, please go to Apalit or attend one or more of bro. Eli’s Bible Exposition so that you can direct your questions personally. Since it would entail lots of time to explain to you, Apalit is the venue you should go..

      Believer or not, still, MAY GOD BLESS YOU!

      • Actually I believe in GOD because the Universe, the mathematical Laws etc. could not have come over by themselves.

        I believe the BIBLE as a History Book or series of Books. It is a Book full of Wars, of Murders, of Bloods etc. and also of Love preaching.

        I also believe that there are TWO things that affect Humans on Earth : The Devil Spirit and the Holy Spirit.

        Jesus promised that He will come back. So, I assume He is not here actually. God sent His Only Son to us. So, God also may not be here, otherwise wherte is GOD when it hurts so much ?

        The Apostles walked in Syriaria and all over the Holy Regions. What is happening there ?

        Why Humans suffer when the most Powerful Beings from Heaven stay tacitly there ? Does the Devil overpowering God ?

      • @Judex Young (March 1, 2012 at 6:27 am)

        I’m glad to know you confirm to believe in GOD the creator.

        The Bible is not an ordinary book. It contains scriptures that have spoken of things before the world began, of invisible and visible things, of the past, today and the future. It contains standards of measures of how people should behave to attain salvation.

        2 Timothy 3:16 (NKJV)
        16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is PROFITABLE for DOCTRINE, for REPROOF, for CORRECTION, for INSTRUCTION in righteousness,

        Human sufferings started as soon as sin entered by the transgression of Adam. God, from the very beginning gave us the freedom to choose. HE has set before us life and death, blessing and cursing; and said “choose life” (Deuteronomy 30:19).

        All these hurts, wars, murders, bloodshed in Syria and around the world, are the results of human’s continual transgression. Despite all iniquities of man, God did not fail to warn us, to show HIS love for us.

        Does the Devil overpowering God?
        Definitely not!!! In fact, they already know their destiny.

        Matthew 8:29 (NKJV)
        29 And suddenly they cried out, saying, “What have we to do with You, Jesus, You Son of God? Have You come here to torment us before the time?”

        The Demons were complaining if Jesus came to punish them ahead of time.

        For the many years i have been watching Bro. Eli’s programs, I am more than 100% sure God’s Spirit never failed to guide him in answering any questions of faith through the Bible.

        I hope you will continue to watch, in fact, there’s no other program like his.

        MAY GOD BLESS YOU!🙂

      • Do you believe in pre-historic Men ?

        How God was manifesting to them ? No records ! We do not know !

        God manifested to Men when Men evolved and started thinking and recording events. Civilisation started, and a few Men were ubove the IQ of the Crowds. So, those few Men wrote down many things.

        If God gave Moses the Tablet on which was written the Ten Commendments, why the Table t of the 10 Commandments was not unbreakable for the Generations to come ?

  9. Thanks be to God for this understanding of the incense offered to God in spirit and in truth!

    Those deluded have the spirit mentioned here:

    Jeremiah 18:15, 18 NIV

    15 Yet my people have forgotten me; they burn incense to worthless idols, which made them stumble in their ways and in the ancient paths. They made them walk in bypaths and on roads not built up.

    18They said, “Come, let’s make plans against Jeremiah; for the teaching of the law by the priest will not be lost, nor will counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophets. So come, let’s attack him with our tongues and pay no attention to anything he says.”

    May God protect Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel from these people who are self-deluded.

    • Bro.Eli also said that we catholics don’t understand the incense mentioned in Malachi 1:11 and hence, it is not a prophecy about the Catholic Church. That is a very lame and bad argument as he simply ignore the whole context of the verse.
      How could he say that we don’t understand the word incense? Of course we do and even have a better understanding about it.

      The use of incense is Biblical, the Levites priest in the OT used them during their sacrifices. The incense are indeed symbolic of our prayers that goes upward direction. We also know very well even before bro Eli was born that there’s no way it could pass through beyond stratosphere. This sweet smelling substance will be offered to his name,according to God himself through the mouth of prophet Malachi.
      We literelly uses incense and we are aware of its symbolic nature. We use it in the same way and purpose like the prophets of the Old Testament did-for the glory of God.
      Together with the incense, prophet Malachi said that “a pure offering” will be offered to God. Nowhere in the Old testament you can find any sacrifice described as being perfect,thus this sacrifice is unique and superior than anything else before.Christ being the perfect sacrifice is the exact fulfillment. It says,” a pure offering” and note that this offering is singular as indicated by the article”a”,yet it is being offered” from the rising of the sun and unto the setting of the same” Hence, this is offered daily and continuously because in reality the sun doesn’t set.
      Bro.Eli also failed to understand that mere presence of blood doesn’t follow that an act is bloody.The blood of Christ remains in the chalice/cup and we drink from it.where as when Jesus died on the cross his blood was shed all over .Presence of blood during blood transfusion doesn’t follow that it’s a bloody procedure.In like manner,we don’t call the Holy Mass a”bloody” sacrifice although it involves Christ blood.
      .when we attend the Holy Mass the wine turns into real blood of Christ but remains wine in appearance and taste.If you place it in a microscope still you can never see red blood cells in it. But we take Jesus word and believes in what he said, “this is my body”,”this is my blood”.

      • The prayer of the wicked; even the dead in spirit can’t even pass through the clouds; how would you even expect smoke of incense, sacrificed by idol worshipers and those who adulterate the holy bible, reach the living God?

        Psalm 141:2 KJV
        Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice.

        Lamentations 3:40-42,44 NKJV
        40 Let us search and try our ways, and turn again to the LORD.
        41 Let us lift up our heart with our hands unto God in the heavens.
        42 We have transgressed and have rebelled: thou hast not pardoned.
        44 Thou hast covered thyself with a cloud, that our prayer should not pass through.

        I believe, Bro. Eli is being guided by God, because of his good works guided by Jesus Christ’s faith! His sincerity is also reflected in Bro. Daniel Razon’s in public service!

        2 Corinthians 2 KJV

        14Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

        15For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

        16To the one we are the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who is sufficient for these things?

        17For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

        Thanks be to God!

      • you’re right about the literal incense, but you’re wrong to use its literal meaning in the verse. and at the same time, aren’t you being too literalist to then point out how the earth rotates? what you’re trying to say only fits in a single context of the verse. but it doesnt align with what the other phophets had written. to understand the truth we need to understand how God works. He works by anointing prophets from across time to reveal His message.

  10. wow! Never fails to amaze me! As always, Bro. Eli’s blogs are never a waste of time. It’s expected to be sensible and truthful among others. Thanks be to God.

  11. Bro Eli tries to reason against the TRUTH yet its very obvious that he doesn’t understand our doctrine concerning the Eucharist.
    As he answered my argument I will take this as my challenge to him has been accepted.He already attack our core doctrine,he already address us as ignorant and delusional.

    I will start posting point by point refutation in the next few days,bear with me for I am a busy man.
    May God enlighten us all.

    • Bro Eli tries to reason against the TRUTH yet its very obvious that he doesn’t understand our doctrine concerning the Eucharist.
      As he answered my argument I will take this as my challenge to him has been accepted.He already attack our core doctrine,he already address us as ignorant and delusional.

      I will start posting point by point refutation in the next few days,bear with me for I am a busy man.
      May God enlighten us all.

      Winnie,

      I agree with you that Mr. Eli Soriano obviously is the one an ignoramus of the teaching of Jesus about the Eucharist. He is like also the Jews who once followed Christ but after listening to him they said that; “this is a hard saying” so they left Christ and didn’t believe him. But the 12 apostles when asked by Christ if they will leave… they answered that they don’t because they believed that Jesus is the eternal life. The teaching about the Eucharist that the jews didn’t understand just like Mr. Eli Soriano is in John chap 6:1-71. It’s too long so I’ll just select some few passages.

      In John 6:53-58 it says;

      [53 Then Jesus said to them: “Amen, amen, I say unto you: unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. 54 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will raise him up in the last day. 55 For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. 56 He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. 57 As the living Father has sent me and I live by the Father: so he that eats me, the same also shall live by me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Not as your fathers ate manna and are dead. He that eats this bread shall live for ever.”]

      Mr. Soriano if you defy the teaching of Jesus here in these passages then you are the anti Christ. He says that; “He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and I will raise him up in the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.” What did the jews say? They said; “this is a hard saying” so they left him. This is a real event when he performed the miracle of the loaves of bread and the fishes. But Jesus instruction to his apostles to commemorate the transubstantiation as a ritual was in the last supper before he was condemned to death.

      Therefore your opinion below is wrong!

      “After claiming that the wine in the cup of the Catholic priest is the real blood of the Lord Jesus by the process of transubstantiation, here comes Catholic apologetics saying that their mass is an unbloody manner of sacrificing Jesus Christ – something they do-again and again.”

      Your opinion is wrong because it is not only claimed as a dogma of the Catholic church but it is also spoken by Jesus Christ and taught to his apostles.

      • yeah..expose all the wrong teaching of this so called catholic defender…every time they do this so called mass they offer it to sa….an…with all their statues in front of their so called altar lets keep on exposing this false teaching….

      • @Odan, hi

        we will be waiting for your point by point explanation about your dogma “eucharist” and how Bro. Eli is wrong in opposing it. please make it sure its Biblical.

    • winnie if you could spare just a single day and go to one of our locales on a bible exposition you can actually speak to bro Eli.. I think that would be more efficient for you since you can prove your point to thousands of our church members..

    • @Winnie:

      How dare you say that Bro. Eli tries to reason against the TRUTH when he is just precisely laying down biblical passages, the WORD OF GOD which directly contradict and repudiate your man made doctrine? How dare you say that he doesn’t understand your doctrine concerning Eucharist? Even an ordinary layman could understand that yours is a doctrine like a castle made of sand which in this article, Bro. Eli razed it to the ground with his impeccable God given biblical wisdom.

      Lastly, let me give you an example of how a layman understood your peculiar doctrine of Catholicism:

      “…Blessed is he who gives the needy, helps the poor, and feeds the hungry , but cursed and censurable is he who is deaf to the entreaties of the poor, who stuffs those who are satiated, and lavishes his money on silver hangings for the altar, on alms of the church or the friar who is swimming in riches, on Masses with music and rockets, while he squeezes this money from the bones of the poor and offers it to the master with which to buy the chains to bind him and to pay his executioners. Oh, blindness and shortsightedness…

      …Analyze carefully the kind of religion taught you. Find out if that is the command of God or the teaching of Christ for alleviating the suffering of the poor, for comforting those in pain. Consider everything taught you, the aim in every sermon, the underlying reason for every Mass, novena, rosary, scapular, image, miracle, candle belt, and other things that are forced upon you, dinned daily into your ears and dangled before your eyes, and discover the beginning and their end, and then compare that religion with the pure religion of Christ, and see if your Christianity is not like the milking animals or like the pig that is being fattened, nor for its own sake, but in order to see it at a price and make money out of it.” – Dr. Jose Rizal (excerpts from Rizal’s letter to the young women of Malolos, London, 22 February 1889)

      • Toto,
        Sorry, I disturbed your “peace”by the TRUTH I mentioned in my posts.
        Why not respond and answer them if bro Eli can’t.
        I haven’t started my defence about the doctrine of the Eucharist,yet bro already started another topic. Why csn’t he stick to the topic and address my argument.Is he running away from the Truth. If he is wrong on this how could he be trusted about the rest?

      • To Winnie:
        I dont know if u really understand what u are talking about..what Bro Eli is saying is coming from the Bible..unlike your Eucharist wherein it is only written by people from the vatican..maybe you should investigate further the doctrines from this church that u are defending…i wonder what’s in it for u?isnt it that u guys are saying that u believe d bible as well..how come when we are reading what’s in d bible u guys are reacting..those verses given by Bro. Eli are from the bible..think twice before u say anything…u might be sorry when d time comes…open ur heart to the truth that is in the Bible…not bcoz Catholism have existed for centuries already doesnt mean that it is the truth…islam have been existing along side with catholism and catholics have killed a lot of them bcoz they say that muslims are not of God..

    • indeed winnie you are ignorant and delusional as you are bowing down in worship to those graven images and believing literally the body and blood of Christ in your masses. what a pathetic gesture. sorry to say it.

      when worshiping God, you don’t need any visual effects, whatsover. it is written, worship God in spirit and in truth. the english is plain and simple why are you so dumb and dumber🙂

      if you’re a busy man, just spare one friday (first or last of every month) so you can argue your stand in the Bible Expo. you are most welcome in any ADD coordinating centers. it will be worth it to you and your ignorance and delusions will be concluded with finality. chapter will be closed and then move on.

      you don’t need to challenge bro eli, just make yourself availble. bro eli is not a respecter of men, he will make ‘patol’ of you. he is like a lion devouring any animals standing his ways.

      you are a weakling if you rely on this blog to prove your point.

      definitely your god will not enlighten you as it does not have the senses.

      may our God – the God of Abraham will enlighten you.

      can you make yourself available ‘just even for one day’?

  12. Bro. Eli Soriano wouldn’t be awarded as the most sensible preacher of all time if he doesn’t understand this or that and this and that, these or those and these and those..his programs are the most informative programs..pretty sure those who awarded & voted him are in their right minds..hmm..it makes sense..yeah yeah yeah..😛

  13. Bro. Eli is a very sensible preacher in our time. Pray that many people will enlighten to your explanations thru the teachings of Christ. To GOD be the glory.

  14. That is good winnie, i assured you as you dig deeper in to defending your catholic faith, you will discover the truth more and more, been there done that. and one day i realized and awaken to the truth the bible holds.

    Now it’s your time to prove it to yourself that the truth will always set you free. keep defending your current faith today bu do not harden your heart in also reading the post in this blog.

    I have once been a catholic and it does teach me how to be religious in some ways but as i noticed it’s just in the outside but your soul inside is so empty and it even ask your conscience it this really the right religion or this just sounds right but not the real deal.

    Well, one thing I’m hoping for is that one day, you will realize a whole new paradigm in religion and embrace the truth that is in the Bible.

    • that’s why i don’t understand catholic apologetics, their using the Holy Bible, but they’re like stabbing themselves with It like a murder weapon AND still refuse to see the Truth.

  15. May I add more my observation about the way Bro.Eli failure to grasp the rich meaning of this prophecy(Malachi1:11). He claims that the incense is only symbolic and that”are the prayers of the saints” he then added in his conclusion that what will be offered to God are prayers and praises by citing unrelated verse to support his weak argument.
    God knows about literal incense and THIS LITERAL INCENSE symbolizes our prayers to God. Bro Eli then equated,”a pure offering” as “praises” which is a big blunder on his part. I pity him that he just couldn’t get it that there is big difference between praising God from giving sacrifice ( “Pure offering”).Even the very words could not be even be synonymous although it could be done simultainously yet they are different acts.

    • Winnie,

      If your doctrine really speaks of the Truth, you should and must really care for the people whom you think are blinded by Bro Eli. Why don’t you show yourself and prove your point during one of our Bible Expositions, so we may be able to hear you, and let’s see if really you are on your senses, so we may/might be enlightened. Be a man, Winnie. Proving your point in this avenue, only shows your cowardice.

  16. L O L !!! What Christ and the other Prophets said have been written and possibly distorted in time. People were not much educated and intelligent in the Crowds, so, teaching was in the projection of mental images. Still, it was very difficult to grasp the true meaning.

    Why Christ did not write everything by his own hand writing ?

    • @judexxy22, hi

      first of all, we encourage you to keep on reading and listening to Bro. Eli. Keep on visiting his blog.

      as to your comment, may I comment you this way: you have said, what Christ and prophets said were written, how come it will be projected though mental images? that’s the distortion of the word of God over the time, making images. They opt to distort it and made many to believe in them. But the true messages (those written in the Bible) were intact and preserve, you can see those manuscripts in Museum, the codex.

      You do not have to be educated or intelligent to grasp the word of God, for it Is God who will give you understanding, once you seek Him. he will open your heart.

      Act 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

      You were asking why Christ did not write everything by his own hand writing? I will ask you, what do you mean by your question? I remember one of many truthseekers asked the same question to Bro. Eli in Bible Exposition, as far as I remember, bro. Eli asked the one asking the question by this, “are you going to prove yourself by your own? If that so, are they going to believe you?”

      Think it, Lord Jesus come to earth not to be a writer but to do the will of his Father.

      And is there anyone living or non-living person that attest him/herself by his own writing? What I knew is, the followers or somebody knew him/her inspired by his work will have the reason to wrote about him.

      Anyway, I wish you will hear Bro. Eli, mine is just a bird’s eyeview. Please keep on reading Bro. Eli’s blog.

      • Yes indeed ! I do believe that they distorted many things as they had to explain by examples to the uneducated Crowds. For example, the Angels are white and the Devil is black !

        Even Jesus used examples and mental images : There are many in the Bible !

      • @Judex

        That is why God sent his messenger, for us to understand those are hard to comprehend. We only need to do is to listen to the sent messenger, the true sent messenger. God gave us hint to knew the one he sent. Simply, the one who speak the word of God.

        Lord Jesus used parables and he explained the meaning afterward.

  17. Thanks be to GOD. i agee to Bro. Eli Soriano that all the teachings of catholics are misleading to their followers and from the beginning, their doctrines have no basis in the bible.

  18. The doctrine of the eucharist is deep and profound,forshadowed in the Old Testament. Genesis14:18 It says about the first priest that ever mentioned in the whole Bible,he is called Melchizedek.This mysterious priest and King of Salem(the future Jerusalem) had bread and wine as sacrificial offering to God. Jesus in the same way he was prophesied to be a PRIEST and KING.Psalm 110:4 says,”The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind you are a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.”

    The New Testament affirmed this in Hebrew 5:6,”You are a priest forever in the order of Melchizedek”.and again in Hebrew 5:10, Christ is described as eternal high priest.Melchizedek the king of Salem is also said to be greater
    than Abraham.
    So Jesus our high priest also used the same objects as sacrificial offerings “,BREAD and WINE”yet ,Christ offering is even more wonderfully glorious .For the bread turns into his flesh and the wine truly turns into his very blood!!!
    Furthermore,the Paschal lamb is a perpetual ordinance,it last forever according to Exodus 12:14,17,24. God commanded the Israelites to “offer” “poieseis the lamb upon the altar, the word “offer” is the same verb Jesus used to institute the eucharistic offering of himself.

    The Paschal lamb must be eaten inorder to restore communion with Yahweh.this is according to Leviticus 7:15.Hence, this foreshadow what is the eucharist is- the body of Christ, the lamb of God who said,” my flesh is real food indeed”,my blood is real drink”

  19. To ODAN MATIG-A & WINNIE:

    Dont be narrow-minded. just be neutral and study the Catholic Doctrines and reflect to it. Ask yourself, is this specific doctrine which i follow can please and glorify God or iam doing something that makes Him angry?

    Do i pleased God with this act?
    1. When i pray, i kneel in front of graven images. (Deut. 5:8-9)
    2. I do repeatitious prayer with the use of rosary. (Mat. 6:7)
    3. I was baptized when i was a BABY. Did i follow Jesus the way he was baptized? (Mat. 3:16)
    4. Is the birth of Jesus really Dec. 25?
    5. Is the FEAST OF THE SAINTS (FIESTA) really pleased God. In which there is killing, drinking liquor & etc. But why there is no Feast of God? Are we glorifying man more than God?
    6. Making an altar & put some candles and flowers in front of it. and dress the little “niño”. (Acts 17:24-25)

    These are only few examples. I know you can think for more. Just be in neutral side. Forget first about your catholic knowledge and about ADD. Try to empty your mind and reflect on the above examples and ask your HEART. “IS THESE THINGS CAN PLEASE GOD THAT MADE HEAVEN AND EARTH??”

  20. a CHALLENGE to ODAN MATIG-A and WINNIE:

    You two are always whinnying here in blogs. What is your purpose and motive why you argue and oppose bro eli’s blog?? I believe you do this just to prove him (bro eli) wrong and maybe you want us to follow you.

    IF you really SURE that bro eli is wrong and you are RIGHT, Why not GO to one of our locale and ask or even DEBATE bro eli LIVE so that you can prove once and for all to us that catholic is the TRUE CHURCH founded by CHRIST.

    We are having LIVE bible exposition EVERY 1st and last FRIDAY of the month. Every locale (esp in the philippines) hookep-up in the bible exposition. It starts at 7pm (phil. time). and visitors are all welcome. You can even bring your priest, cardinal and your brethren as many as you can.

    Be sure to come early for you to be the first in line to ask/debate bro eli. I have a favor to you, before you confront bro eli, please introduce first yourself that you are “aka” ODAN MATIG-A or WINNIE for us to know.

    As a fruit of your bravery and courage, IF you WIN against bro eli, I assure you i will be the first to follow you and maybe millions of my brethren will do the same….

    I am waiting for you in our bible exposition…

    Waiting sincerely,
    glenn ford

    • Glen Ford,
      I was once ask to attend one of your Bible exposition and I went.Bro eli wasn’t actually present but he preached with the use of technology.
      Mind you I was very excited, i even seated at the front seat. Then QA time I was the first person to asked bro Eli. My question was even related to what he was talking;yet, HE FAILED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION!!! What happened next was I was taken to other room where I could hear him attacking Catholic Church but they didn’t allowed me to even asked again.
      I was told by a man that he is older than me and he claimed that he had read more books than me and so that’s the end of it.

      This happened while I was in still in Singapore between year 2002-2003, My batchmate who is ADD member named Evelyn worked in the same hospital during that time.

      Why not engage with my arguments here, may not be perfect English but I am pretty sure you could make sense of it.

      Before people judge the Catholic Church they should make sure they are not fighting the TRUE Church of God!

      I love you all,but mind you God loves you even greater!!! May God have mercy on you all.

      • @Winnie

        YOU SAID: My question was even related to what he was talking;yet, HE FAILED TO ANSWER MY QUESTION!!!

        Really? Did he really fail to answer your question? Or maybe you failed to accept and understand his answer since you probably already have your own answer. Why fill your cup with water when your cup is already full?

        YOU SAID: Why not engage with my arguments here, may not be perfect English but I am pretty sure you could make sense of it.

        If you are talking about sense then you should able to grasp the sense that this is a site, a blog. This is not a place where you can discuss/argue your point thoroughly. Can you clearly make your point here? Can you show everybody what your point is? Can you show everybody all your evidences? I believe the answer is NO.

        A lot of people is probably following this blog but think about the number of people who is watching the Bible Exposition. Prove your stand to there. A lot of people will be watching you. You dont know, you might be able to open the eyes of those who are listening to Bro Eli, that the Catholic Church holds the truth, that Bro Eli is wrong as you claim he is.

  21. What did Jesus taught about the Eucharist?
    We need to read what he actually said from the Bible and not from private interpretation of Bro.Eli. In John6:27,” Do not work for food that perishes,but work for food that endures for eternal life which the Son of Man will give you”. Clearly Jesus was saying that he WILL BE giving the bread that endures FOR eternal life.In verse 30-32 Jesus discussed with his disciples about the brwad from heaven. In Moses time in the OT,God sent manna from heaven,now Jesus introduced himself as the BREAD from heaven. The manna in Moses time sustained their lives in the wilderness. This forshadows the food that Christ gives us which is the the Bread of life or The Eucharist to sustain christians on their journey towards God. In John 6:35 Jesus introduce himself as such,”Jesus said to them,”I am the bread of life.”
    In John 6:41 the Jews complained about him because he said,”I am the bread that came
    from heaven.”The Jews understood him well but they can’t accept this TRUTH from God so they complained as St.John described in his Gospel.

    What was Jesus responsed to their unbelief?He said to them(John6:47) Very truly,I tell you,whoever believe has eternal life”. So Jesus knows that they understood him but they don’t believe that he is the Bread of life.
    Yet,again Christ Jesus said in the Following verse to tell them that he call spade a spade,”48″I am the Bread of life”.He then differentiate the manna in the OT to the New covenant (Eucharistic Sacrifice).Lord Jesus said
    In Verse 49″Your ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness and they died.50 This is the bread that comes from heaven,so that one may EAT of it and not die”Jesus again emphasized that HE is the bread of life in verse 51,I am the living bread whoever eats of this bread will live forever; Notice what Jesus said to them in the same verse,”AND THE BREAD THAT I WILL GIVE YOU IS MY FLESH”
    The word used for FLESH is SARX Which means literaly “flesh” and always used in literal sense.He didn’t used the word SOMA/body which eliminates the argument of Bro Eli that partaking of his body means,to be a member of his Church.

    Furthermore, in John 6:52 it says,” The Jews then disputed among themselves ,saying”How can this man give us his flesh to eat? 53,So Jesus said to them.”Very truly,I tell you,UNLESS YOU EAT the flesh of the Son of Man and DRINK HIS BLOOD,you have no life in you.54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life”
    Note that from John 23-53 Jesus used” phago” means,”to eat” but from verse 54-58 Our Lord used the word, “TROGO” Christ eliminates the chance of taking his word in symbolical or metaphorical understanding. As “Trogo” is only used on two other occasions and always used in literal sense,”to CHEW”.
    Jesus body is TRUE food and his Blood is TRUE drink,this is what Jesus says in verse 55.I believe in My Lord Jesus Christ and I will take his word as TRUTH.
    If ADD members believe what Jesus said they should abandon bro Eli’s wrong interpretation of the scriptures.After all Jesus is greater than him.
    I will try to address some more of bro Eli’s point on my next post.
    May God bless us and lead us to embrace the TRUTH with humility of our hearts.

    • it’s too lengthy..no time to read

      i wud just say, winnie! go! go! go to any of ADD coordinating centers nearest you. let’s fix the date on feb 24 (last friday) God willing. be there at 6pm so u wud be first on the queue. i believe u still have the time to get urself prepared. bring mr. odan with u.

      it’s feb 24. deal?

    • ok so, is this post against Catholicism, or in support of it? if you read it with more depth you’ll uncover that the Scriptures you cited are actually in opposition to the catholic bread & wine! we have learned nothing new from your argument. you even failed to make a solid point, you just kept throwing in passages that we already know are True, and didn’t explain their relation to your catholic mass and pope-made rituals.

      the problem with receiving the Body and Blood, soul and divinity of the Lord Jesus Christ under the appearance of bread and wine in your mass, is that it is an insult to the LORD. you cannot summon the Lord Jesus Christ to be your bread and wine again and again. i understand that “Eucharist” is a term by catholics that is actually biblical (for non-catholics it’s just another term for The Last Supper), but what’s unbiblical is the things catholics do to it or in it during their mass, i.e. eucharisted bread & wine. It’s supposed to be a commemoration of what Christ had done once for all and once forever, on His last meal during the Passover, This commemoration must be done or “eaten” spiritually, like Manna, and not symbolically by consecrating a bread as the Body of Christ. So what really is the point of the whole catholic Eucharist then, if Christ has already finished His task? also, Trogo means “to digest”. it is indeed in a literal sense since the Body of Christ is food for the spirit that needs to be absorbed, unlike eucharisted bread that is nothing more but carbs. Furthermore, you cannot just confine or summon the Purity of Christ or the pure offering to a worldly object because nothing is a perfect host for it except Christ’s Body Himself, the Living Flesh.

      I have a question to catholicism, in “eucharisting” the bread and wine, what type of bread do you use? is it perfectly baked? are you sure there are no traces of yeast in it?? See how blasphemous the answers to these questions can be? That’s the reason why God forbids making statues and then consecrating it because you cannot just confine his perfect creation to a stone, a basic commandment catholics failed to follow. Even if the sculptors are very skilled, the resulting statues they make will never be enough and will always appear disgusting and an ugly imitation of the LORD’s perfect creation.

    • To Winnie and Odan

      Please I humbly ask you to go in our bible expo, be early to be the one to ask 1st, then, propose a debate(if you want) about the eucharist. Don’t simply ask because you can’t defend your doctrine/faith in that because that segment is for asking not for debating(but can be if bro. eli wants it)

  22. @ Winnie

    YOU SAID: “I haven’t started my defence about the doctrine of the Eucharist,yet bro already started another topic. Why csn’t he stick to the topic and address my argument.Is he running away from the Truth.”

    RUNNING AWAY? REALLY? Are you sure about that? Then why don’t you show yourself up in our Bible Exposition and prove to the world that Bro Eli is wrong as you claim he is? Challenge him there. Make it formal. Prove your stand.

    This is a site, a blog. Not a place where you can discuss thoroughly. I suggest you bring all your supporting documents and evidences and show it to all the people watching the Bible Expo that your Catholic Doctrine holds the truth.

    Think about it, a lot of people is watching the Bible Expo. You are claiming that Catholic Doctrine holds the truth right? You care about the people, the souls who are misled right? Then be an instrument of God and save our soul.

    If you are not coming then you are just another person who hides his face behind his posts that doesn’t really care about the misled people. Plain hypocrisy.

  23. Glen,
    All 5 points you rejects as against to the scripture is due to your understanding about what the Bible says in regards to our TRUE Catholic doctrines. I would like you to focus on the Eucharist in the mean time otherwise you are just distracting yourself. We can to next topic after this one.

    In Numbers 10:10 and in Hebrew 10:3 both speaks about”Remembrance” Which in Greek it made use of the word” anamnesis”. This word has a significant meaning as it implies not only an act of “recalling” but refers to a sacrifice actuallly made present in time by the power of God.thus the Eucharist is an actual event is the same sacrifice of Christ in Calvary made present in time.

    • Winnie,

      You have been preoccupied by clanging cymbals, the Eucharist/tradition of men inside the camp who don’t know that this bear reproach!

      Numbers 10:10 KJV
      Also in the day of your gladness, and in your solemn days, and in the beginnings of your months, ye shall blow with the trumpets over your burnt offerings, and over the sacrifices of your peace offerings; that they may be to you for a memorial before your God: I am the LORD your God.

      The sacrifice is not about the sin anymore to be recalled or sacrifice in Eucharist through Jesus Christ.

      But of good works by faith in Jesus Christ who works in us!

      Hebrews 10:3 NKJV
      3 But in those sacrifices there is a reminder of sins every year.
      4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and goats could take away sins.

      You have to understand that Numbers 10:10 was explained by St Paul:

      Hebrews 13 KJV
      8Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

      9Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein.

      Hebrews 10:3 should be read in context

      Hebrews 10:14 KJV
      For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

      Hebrews 11:1 KJV
      Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

      God has pleasure on sacrifices offered by the body that are sanctified, the church perfected by Jesus Christ, the head. The body and head shares the faith in God.

      Hebrews 11:40 KJV
      God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.

      Hebrews 13:13 NKJV
      Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.

      We listen to the counsel of Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel, because they are God-sent. That is why brethren live in Christ, with sincere heart and full of confidence, working together for good, to do good to men, especially to the household of God, the brethren with love and encouragement; who are taught not to quit meeting together now that we see the Day getting closer; seeking that continuing city that is to come: all by faith in Christ.

      Hebrews 13 NKJV

      10 We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.

      15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. 16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

      Hebreo 13 Hiligaynon Bible (HLGN)
      20 Kag ako nagapangamuyo man sa Dios para sa inyo, sa Dios nga nagahatag sing kalinong. Siya ang nagbanhaw sa aton Ginoong Jesus, nga amo ang Makagagahom nga Manugbantay sa aton nga bilang iya mga karnero. Kay tungod sa iya dugo ginpalig-on niya ang wala sing katapusan nga kasugtanan.
      21 Kabay pa nga ihatag niya sa inyo ang tanan ninyo nga mga kinahanglanon agod mahimo ninyo ang iya kabubut-on. Kag kabay pa nga paagi kay Jesu-Cristo himuon niya sa aton ang iya gusto. Dayawon naton siya sa wala sing katapusan. Amen

      22 Mga utod, nagapangabay ako nga pamatian ninyo ang akon mga ginalaygay, kay manubo man lang ining akon sulat sa inyo.

      • Winnie,

        You have been preoccupied by clanging cymbals, the Eucharist/tradition of men inside the camp who don’t know how it is to bear reproach!

        Hebrews 13 NKJV

        10 We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate.

        13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.

        15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name. 16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

      • Let me summarize the eucharist for you.
        First it was forshadowed in the OT(Gen 14:18) The 1st priest and king(of Salem the future Jerusalem) This priest offered bread and wine.Psalm 110:4 is prophec. About Christ who will be like Melchizedek that offers bread and wine.
        There is also the Aaronic sacrifice which is the offering of the Paschal lamb(Exodus 12:14,17,24 also 24:1)this is said to be a perpetual ordinance that last forever.
        Now,we know very well that Christ is,” the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world” according to St John the Baptist.
        Thus,Christ is the Paschal Lamb.The Paschal lamb has to be eaten otherwise you haven’t fulfilled that ordinance of God.Likewise Christ wants us to eat his “sarx”or his flesh.John6:53,Very truly,I tell you,unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his Blood you have no life in you.”54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life…”55 “for my FLESH is TRUE FOOD and my BLOOD is TRUE DRINK.” Remember that in the OT God had forbidden the Israelites to drink animal blood because God said that life is in the BLOOD. Yes,in like manner God now wants us to drink His BLOOD that we may have ETERNAL life.
        Christ was Born in “Bethlehem” which
        means Town or house of BREAD, coincidence? No! He planned everything according to his will. Remember what he said,”I am the BREAD of life” then he went on to compare the manna from heaven.
        Note that what Christ said about his body being bread at the same time His flesh being a bread. Now compare it at the institution of the Eucharist after he prayed and give thanks he pick up the bread and said”This is my BODY” And also said that the wine to be his Blood. Hence, when he asked them to do it in remembrance of him the Apostles understand it well that they were given the priesthood.
        The two Sacrifices in the Old testament fulfilled in the sacrifice of the Mass using Bread and wine and will remain in that appearance while it turns into real body/flesh and blood of Christ.
        It takes a lift of faith to believe the words of Christ that this bread and wine become his blood and flesh. Yet the apostles said to Jesus,” you have the words of eternal life”
        thus they believe him. This refers to when Jesus said,”it is the Spirit that gives life” and thus,conversely having no belief and merely using human wisdom.is that kind of flesh( that is weak and sinful )in which case does not merit eternal life.
        Luke 22:19 Christ said,”Touto poiete tan eman anamnasin” Which literally means,” offer this as my memorial sacrifice”
        Christ being undefiled and pure sacrifice is the same sacrifice we have in the Mass in unbloody manner.
        Hence,The prophecy in Malachi 1:11 as the pure offering is Christ himself. In the Old and new Testament there were no instances that mere prayers and praise is said to be “Pure offering” or perfect offering”
        Saint Paul attest and believe that the bread and wine will become body and blood of Christ. As he said that we can commit sin against Christ body and BLOOD.
        Don’t be like the Jews and some of hus disciple who refused to believe him, rather we should take his word, when he said,”this is my body” and not to believe bro.Eli as he says,”its not Christ body”
        I take Jesus words,don’t you?

      • Winnie,

        Why do you have the EUCHARIST in the first place?

        John 12 NKJV

        42 Nevertheless even among the rulers many believed in Him, but because of the Pharisees they did not confess Him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue; 43 for they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

        The Lord Jesus Christ was also talking to those outside to enter the body if you would read the whole book. and those who will form part of the body.

        John 12:16 NKJV His disciples did not understand these things at first; but when Jesus was glorified, then they remembered that these things were written about Him and that they had done these things to Him.

        The Lord Jesus Christ was truly talking about his own body, the Church that he will redeem by his own blood, which should be assimilated and believed in, a body with faith that is alive!

        John 9 NKJV

        4 I[a] must work the works of Him who sent Me while it is day; the night is coming when no one can work. 5 As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

        Jesus Christ told what the blind should do, the blind followed his command; then his eyes were opened and sees the light!

        John 9 NKJV

        20 His parents answered them and said, “We know that this is our son, and that he was born blind; 21 but by what means he now sees we do not know, or who opened his eyes we do not know. He is of age; ask him. He will speak for himself.” 22 His parents said these things because they feared the Jews, for the Jews had agreed already that if anyone confessed that He was Christ, he would be put out of the synagogue.

        23 Therefore his parents said,

        “He is of age; ask him.”

        Bro Eli is of age and sent, that’s why he knows. Ask him, please!

        John 9 NKJV

        30 The man answered and said to them, “Why, this is a marvelous thing, that you do not know where He is from; yet He has opened my eyes!

        31 Now we know that God does not hear sinners; but if anyone is

        a worshiper of God

        and does His will,

        He hears him.

        35 Jesus heard that they had cast him out; and when He had found him, He said to him, “Do you believe in the Son of God?”[e]

        36 He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?”

        37 And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.”

        38 Then he said, “Lord, I believe!” And he worshiped Him.

        39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”

        40 Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, “Are we blind also?”

        41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, ‘We see.’ Therefore your sin remains.

        John 6 NKJV

        26 Jesus answered them and said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, you seek Me, not because you saw the signs, but because you ate of the loaves and were filled. 27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.

        John 10 NKJV

        ”37 If I do not do the works of My Father, do not believe Me; 38 but if I do, though you do not believe Me, believe the works, that you may know and believe[d] that the Father is in Me, and I in Him.” 39 Therefore they sought again to seize Him, but He escaped out of their hand.

        Find the body who has the good works with no clanging cymbals, but with love by those with the faith of Christ! Thanks be to God for this wisdom given to the brethren through Bro. Eli!

        John 12 NKJV

        35 Then Jesus said to them, “A little while longer the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you; he who walks in darkness does not know where he is going. 36 While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” These things Jesus spoke, and departed, and was hidden from them.

        John 14 NKJV

        21 He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me. And he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and manifest Myself to him.”

        John 14 NKJV

        3 You are already clean

        because of the word which I have spoken to you.

        4 Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself,

        unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

        10 If you keep My commandments,

        you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments

        and abide in His love.

        Hebrews 13 NKJV

        10 We have an altar from which those who serve the tabernacle have no right to eat. 11 For the bodies of those animals, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned outside the camp. 12 Therefore Jesus also, that He might sanctify the people with His own blood, suffered outside the gate. 13 Therefore let us go forth to Him, outside the camp, bearing His reproach. 14 For here we have no continuing city, but we seek the one to come.

        15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is,

        the fruit of our lips,

        giving thanks to His name.

        16 But do not forget to do good and to share, for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

        Glory be to God!

    • @winnie, hi

      may I ask, what is the TRUE catholic doctrine. I wish you can speak it out in Bible expo as other brethren is requesting you. Let your light shine if its TRUE. There will be a marathon Bible Expo on Feb 19, 2012 @ 6PM (Phil Time), I would you will be there to highlight the TRUE catholic doctrine of yours.

      • Jc,
        Thanks for the invitations, I wanted to attend again for the second time.
        I am however, away from our homeland Philippines. I live here in Europe where your locales are too far away from me. And I don’t drive either.
        Many thanks to all who are asking me to attend. I am not in away afraid of bro Eli. In fact, I attended once yet, disappointed as he wasn’t able
        to answer my question, neither he attempted to answer it.

        Now, I am Challenging him personally in this very own blog.

        He has to prove that Malachi 1:11 was prophecy refers to the Philippines as the” East” where his preaching started then went to be spread in the west.

        He has to prove that there is a prophecy from the Bible in particular from NT saying that there will be a “PANTAS” that would come preaching the unadulterated word of God.

        He has to prove that his church in the Bible, and not his church.

        He is free to use history, the Bible and reason.

        May God bless him, giving him humilty and wisdom to recignize his error.

  24. To Winnie and Odan

    Please I humbly ask you to go in our bible expo, be early to be the one to ask 1st, then, propose a debate(if you want) about the eucharist. Don’t simply ask because you can’t defend your doctrine/faith in that because that segment is for asking not for debating(but can be if bro. eli wants it).

  25. LOL !!!!

    I like this site and the Comments posted herein.

    I do not see the reason for People to criticize Brother Eli and Others to criticize the Catholics, the Vatican etc.

    My Algebra, Geometry, Calculus books were and are still true since I was a Boy at Schools. The Theorems prove things.

    The Bible proves the existances of the Places or regions that existed and still exist. The People, some called the Prophets , existed, too. OK.

    Then why didcuss which Belief is true ? Believing in something does not hurt nobody, unless the Belief becomes fanatical !

    I touched 6 Religions and today I follow nothing, except Common Sense to live a peaceful life !

    The English say it right : ” A Man convinced against his opinion, is of the same opinion still ! “

  26. @Judex,

    First and foremost, criticizing something is not bad especially if it will open the mind of many that their doing is not good. Bro. Eli and brethren criticized no person (personal people) but the doctrine they (other religion) had made and spread to the world, using the Bible as front.

    Since you’d mentioned your academic books, I believe whatever place it will be taught, people will follow the formulas inside of it, the result will be the same. Which is differ with the Bible, the Bible say this and that, to follow, so that we will have salvation, the problem is, many teach it not and they are teaching their own. The result of course will not be the same.

    And there is Bro. Eli who is teaching the one written in the Bible, no less no add, and those who teach the Bible incorrectly is hurt.

    Believing in something will hurt anybody if it is wrong belief. Example is, the doctrine about “purgatory”, if you believe in purgatory and you believe that prayers of the living for your soul will save it from damnation, so it is just fine for the living to do wronged or against the will of God, because your relatives and friends will pray so hard for you to save your soul. How about those poor souls without money, nobody will pray for them?

    I hope you will find the true religion if you are seeking, by reading and hearing Bro. Eli’s teaching. You may attend our church gatherings (Bible Expo, Mass Indoctrination) or listen to http://www.livestream.com/elisoriano, to investigate and to test if the spirit is of God or not.

  27. to: winnie… i hope that God will enlighten your mind. there is no such word in the Bible holy eucharist. your catholic encyclopedia tells a lie and invented only to mislead all catholic followers.

  28. Hi jc,

    In my opinion, sometimes, being free to choose what we want to believe in is best, rather than becoming fanatical ! So far, many Christians Religions have always remained peaceful despite their different beliefs or interpretations. My only wish is that we do not become fanatical to the point of becoming crazy !

    • Being fanatical is not good when talking about religion. We need to have a basis of what we believe and understand if that is the truth.

      I don’t know how you define “peaceful”, but I believe you don’t understand the absolute meaning of the word. I find most “Christian” religions not peaceful. They don’t even know how to tell which is Christian and which is not. Also, to say Christian religionS (with an S) is a display of gross ignorance of the word “Christian”.

      Being free to choose of what we want to believe in is an inborn right and is really the best, not sometimes only. But we have to be always careful in choosing, considering we’re all born with brains.

      • Hi Jezz,

        A BASIS OF WHAT WE BELIEVE IN : I never believe ! I just want to always check the facts. What is not factual is always pending till the facts are proved. Of course, I have only the human tools of logic to think and analyze. No one has given me more and I do not want to believe as believing is only as soft as a ball of oily putty, can make the ball of oily putty in any form !

        PEACEFUL : Peaceful is when no one kills the other One and calls the other One Infidel. Arguments are peaceful though may be hot at times, but still no one kills no one.

        FREE WILL : Free Will could have been free to choose amoung Good, Better and Best instead of between Good and Evil.

        I firmly believe that we do not know enough, and we all try to explain things. I do not like to kill Animals. I believe that Animals suffer when Humans kill them for food. So, how could the Good God make Animals suffer for the food of many Humans ?

        I also wonder why because Adam and Eve sinned and the rest of the generations have to suffer !!!! Then God paid the fine for us by giving his Son to be sacrificed on the cross. Did God pay the fine to a Higher Authority than God ? I wish we all could understand. Is satan a Higher Authority than God ? So, why paid the price so dearly by giving his Son ?

    • Greetings to Judexx22,

      Sorry for late reply but again, thanks for having time visiting Bro. Eli’s blog. If we, as Christian who follow Christ, would like the ‘best’ for us, I believe the ‘best’ thing to choose is whatever God’s wanted us to be, following His will. There are best thing as per our heart could tell, but still the best thing is of God.

      I disagree on what you’ve quoted above that many Christian religions always remained peaceful despite of their belief or interpretations, first because, there is only one religion that follow Christ, others were just using Christ’s name for their own benefit, it is the members who suffered most. Is it peaceful to have a broken family? Is it peaceful when somebody killed and the killer is well-known (as if) Christian? Is it peaceful if a man have more than one wife or vice versa? Is it peaceful if you are have children outside wedlock? It is not peaceful but it crazy to believe on something that is not a true peace.

      Let me quote to you the definition given by Winston Churchill about fanaticism – “A fanatic is one who can’t change his mind and won’t change the subject” (source: Wikipedia). What I understand in Churchill’s definition is that, whether the subject is untruthful or no basis at all, this person will still believe on it and he will not change his mind about that belief. Do I have to quote examples of these?

      I’m sorry but we are not fanatics of wrong beliefs. If believing the Bible is a crazy thing, so let it be.

      Thank you again on reading this blog.

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