God Will Not Demand Death to Innocent People in the Bible


This is the biblical answer to the third question posted on this video.

Nowhere in the Bible can you find a verse where God demand the death of innocent people. Maybe, the one asking such question is not innocent, but ignorant of the Bible. There is a great difference between innocent and ignorant, and these people that malign God can not say that they are innocent because they intentionally mislead people by their questions.

They cited a verse in Exodus 35:2, which say:

“Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you a holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.”

Before we go to the Biblical aspect (and this is for my readers, and not for these people), let us first delve on something which is the only language they know. They do not question authorities in their land when they impose death penalty on law-breakers. I have not found any argument in their website questioning the imposition of death penalty which is being carried out by most countries of the world, so we can safely conclude that they are not against death penalty when it is imposed by anybody other than God. In the spirit of justice and fairness, they must question everybody that imposes the death penalty, but their target is God who, unlike sinful human beings, has the power and authority to impose it because He is the Creator of life.

(Acts 17:28) “For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.”

The poets of Athens and Greece are smarter than these people because they believe that there is a reason for our existence; and there must also be a reason for the imposition of death.

(Romans 6:23) “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

The verse implies that death is imposed because of sin; and a just God will not punish innocent people. Sin is transgression of the law.

(1 John 3:4) “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”

The law on keeping the Sabbath is the fourth of the Ten Commandments. This is a holy day between the Lord and His people, Israel. The beneficiary of this law is the people themselves. No human being after four hundred years of labor, like what happened to them in Egypt, in his proper sense will reject a day of rest. It is for your benefit to take a rest, and this is scientific.

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The benefits of resting are huge. A day or two off each week is essential to allow muscles, tendons and ligaments the time to repair themselves. Additionally, for those attempting to increase muscle mass, the old saying that growth occurs during down time, not during workouts, holds truehttp://www.thefitmap.co.uk/exercise/needs/benefits/rest.htm

Anybody who refuses to rest, especially so if it is a transgression to a very important commandment intended for his own benefit is completely abnormal and out of his mind. He deserves to die and is not innocent!

(Deuteronomy 21:18-21) “If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.”

These were the verses cited by this detractors of the Lord; and claim that God demands the death of innocent teenagers! Not only misleading people thru their website, but propagating their invented lies, these imaginary people are blatant liars and deceivers!

Nowhere in the verses cited can you find that these are innocent teenagers! They are stubborn, rebellious, gluttons, and drunkards. Rebellious to God and their parents, they are not innocent and they deserve to die, after rejecting their chance for renewal by not listening to the voices of their father and mother. To say that these are innocent teenagers denotes what kind of a person who sympathizes with them, and blames the just God of Christians. Perhaps, they are rearing their children in such manner that they will someday be stubborn, rebellious, gluttons, and drunkards.

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(1 Timothy 5:8) “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”

Another blatant lie is their comment on Leviticus 20:13, saying that God demands the death of homosexuals. THE VERSE DOES NOT MENTION INNOCENT HOMOSEXUALS! The verse tells us, and I quote:

“If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

Note: That the subject is a man that lieth with a woman, and afterwards, lieth also with a man. Homosexuals do not lie with women! These are men who, because of exceeding lust after lying with a woman, have pleasure also in men. This was clarified by the apostle Paul in Romans 1:27.

“And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.”

Innocent homosexuals are given by God the chance to inherit the kingdom of God.

(1 Corinthians 6:9-11) “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind , nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.”

Note that some members of the first century Christian church at Corinth are effeminate or homosexuals, but they were washed, sanctified, and justified!

Maybe these imaginary people who say that God is imaginary hates God; and they want to convince homosexuals to hate God also!

Another verse they used to make a mockery of God’s justice is on Deuteronomy 22:13-21, which states:

“If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her , And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel’s virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel’s father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter’s virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; And they shall amerce him in a hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father’s house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father’s house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.”

Note that death in the preceding verses is imposed not because the damsel or lady is not virgin. It is imposed because she has done folly, fooling her father, mother, the supposed to be groom, and the elders of Israel, and mocking God’s commandment that protects the right and dignity of a starting family. The lady commanded by God to be stoned to death is NOT innocent.

Therefore, it is not true that God demands the death of so many innocent people, as they claim; but God is a God of justice, fairness, equity, and good morals, which these immoral and imaginary people hate.

I know after reading this, these imaginary people will again invent defamatory things against me and my God, but I believe and I pray that my readers be enlightened with this glaring light from God’s word.

Praise be unto HIM! Amen.

40 thoughts on “God Will Not Demand Death to Innocent People in the Bible

  1. I believe that the point of this essay is that you want to prove that our Christian God is just, fair, and does not demand unwarranted punishment. So here’s my question: why focus your argument so much on proving why the people in the verses above “deserve to die” instead of focusing on the fact that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23) and that God is infinitely merciful in his hesitance to annihilate us all? If we are all sinners, and “the wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23), then perhaps this would be a better way to prove that God is merciful and fair.

    Just an opinion.

  2. AMEN! JESUS IS LORD

    Just checking, what about the new borns and fetuses killed in the numerous genocides instructed by God in the OT (e.g. Amalekites, Midianites, Canaanites, etc)? I presume they were not innocent because of their evil, pagan parents. Does this mean abortions by non-christians is a less henious crime than abortions by christians? (This may be useful for targeting our protests to help save the innocent ones).

    PRAISE GOD

  3. Bro. Eli,

    I liked the video… it makes my mind think rationally but my heart feels emotionally.. and all questions are valid ones, and all these correspond to the way of thinking most people would want… and the conclusion to these questions will always be why, oh why? Regardless what the minds of the reader would want… as long as we believe that there is a loving God who gives life to each and everyone… even if death comes… we will always be grateful to Him.. to God be the Glory… we love you bro. eli..

  4. Ethical Standards that is taught to a man and have gain knowledge of it and before he acts immorally shall his wits tell him that what he is about to do is evil,unworthy in the sight of men and society in which he was taught the knowledge of Ethics!
    The very thing that these PERVERTS defend their rights are encouraging upright homosexuals that value truth and justice and decent living to take part in their wickedly,evil ways of IMMORALITY to do sinning after all it is GOD that SHOULD be BLAME for our being homosexuals! Who took part and convinced you to comply with worldy evil LUST?
    The TRUTH which you,PERVERTS,cannot accept are “HE VERY WORD OF GOD”in The Bible! Did a Loving GOD taught you to act and do what is good in HIS sight and be SUBJECT for DEATH? Think again based on Scriptures as you say you are Blaming and imposing death if these things are of GOD or not! Your absolutely ignorant and blatantly wrong!
    This is for you PERVERTS,JOHN 8:44……

  5. the people who made the video are totally IGNORANT in the BIBLE… their true intentions is to mislead their viewer with their impertinent questions… i totally dislike the video! and thanks be to GOD for having us Bro. Eli to enlightened our minds…

  6. I have watched the video only to find out the these people will find a way to answer their own questions just to have their excuses that God does not exist. It is their excuses that are imaginary and baseless, for them to have the pleasure of doing evil things they may wish without boundaries.

    They profess that God is imaginary but sometimes there is something that tells them the opposite but will just ignore it, leading to a more evil and sarcastic mind.

    I have to admit that I too had similar questions when I was just a teenager and end up crying for not having the answers. I used to ask myself then, “What is the purpose of our existence?”

    I am very lucky to find myself in the true Church through God’s sent preacher, Bro. Eli. I thank God that I was not mislead and having found the answers to my questions.

    THANKS BE TO GOD FOR ONE OF A KIND BRO. ELI!!!

  7. whoever made that video is totally non-sense! i will not believe in that video! those people behind it doesn’t make any sense at all! and do not have peace in their minds and soul…..and besides, why inciting verses in the bible when you do not believe in the bible? it’s ridiculous just like what bro.eli have said….question! why using a sword when the sword that you’re using is the one that you do not believe?

  8. QUESTION #11 why using a sword when the sword that you’re using is the one that you do not believe? do you have any “RATIONAL” answer for that? hahaha….simple…..you are out of your mind!

  9. I think this is the first time these Atheists tasted the real sharpness of the word of God… rightly used by Bro. Eli!

    How blessed they are if they turn away from their illogical way of thinking. 🙂

  10. With regards to Deuteronomy 22 please note that all that is required for the girl to be stoned to death is that her parents can’t produce the “tokens of virginity”. If they fail, she dies, guilty or not.

    Notice also that if they do produce said tokens then the husband has to pay 100 sheckels, and gets “chastised”.

    Justice?

    You can keep it.

  11. I think one of the problems here is that these “detractors” of the CHRISTIAN GOD does not really know who the TRUE CHRISTIANS are and how they abide with the laws of the TRUE CHRISTIAN GOD. Also, their interpretation of the Word of God sucks–they absolutely have no idea on who God REALLY is.

  12. if we really obey the comandment in sabath…regards w/ seventhday adventists..you should be put the person who transgress this law unto death…but still this seventh day adventists church not doing this process in keeping commandments be whole

  13. this is a reply to sabessi…(first person who commented)
    i quote:

    {So here’s my question: why focus your argument so much on proving why the people in the verses above “deserve to die” instead of focusing on the fact that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God” (Romans 3:23) and that God is infinitely merciful in his hesitance to annihilate us all? If we are all sinners, and “the wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23), then perhaps this would be a better way to prove that God is merciful and fair.}

    First of all Bro. Eli was answering their 3rd question: “Why does God demand death of the innocent” and NOT proving that God is merciful and fair (although he does that anyway). So it’s just right that the main focus of this essay will be disproving the wrong claim the people who asked the question made.

    The people who came up with the question, ignorantly cited verses that according to them shows how God demands innocent blood. Which is the basis of their Queston #3

    If brother Eli doesn’t focus on showing the readers how those non-believers misinterpreted the verses and that those people from the cited verses aren’t innocent and actually do deserve to die then the main purpose of this essay will be defeated!

    These people blatantly lied about what were contained in those verses…if brother Eli doesn’t correct it by showing those people in the verses are in fact NOT innocent then the lies those people cooked up in the video will stay.

    For me the essay couldn’t have been written better…

    and for those non-believers reading this…open your eyes!

    Thanks be to God for someone like brother Eli.
    Thanks be to God for His unspeakable gift.

  14. Marc –

    I’m not at all trying to defend lust, drunkenness, or breaking the commandments. I’m simply saying that there are in fact NO innocents in this world, ourselves included. It seems to me that proving that no one is innocent would be a much easier way of refuting the idea that God demands innocents’ deaths (a logical fallacy if no one is innocent) than passing judgment on them all while quietly ignoring the fact that any man who has been angry is considered a murderer in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 5:22).

  15. “[I] In the spirit of justice and fairness, they must question everybody that imposes the death penalty, but their target is God who, unlike sinful human beings, has the power and authority to impose it because He is the Creator of life.[/I]”

    Im sure people will step up to question whoever imposes death penalty to anyone who fails to rest on sabbath day, or any other non-heinous “crimes”.

    God claims he is a just God. But death is hardly a just sentence for working on the sabbath day.

  16. Sabesi,

    You cited Matthew 5:22 and I like to read starting from verse 21,

    ” Ye have heard that it was said to them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

    but I say unto you, that every one who is angry with his brother shall be in danger of the judgment; and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council; and whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of the hell of fire.”

    When you cited the verse, you said “… while quietly ignoring the fact that any man who has been angry is considered a murderer in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 5:22). ”

    Where in Matthew 5:22 can you read what you said?

  17. As a member of the Catholic Church, I am used of seeing good looking images of Jesus Christ and other patrons. Im curious, how does Jesus looks like? True Image? Please let me know the verse/s from the Bible to end my curiosity.
    Which book from the Bible should i start to read first? Why?
    The priest Father Pio (as what others called him) and Mother Theresa were noted for their exemplary works, base on the Bible are they considered Spiritual Leaders?
    Is it important to confess? How often do we need to confess? to Whom?
    There is a news in the Philippines which was aired on channel 2 last Holy Week, to be more realistic they dramatized the story. To make the story short, the sick boy died and came back to life. Doctors and relatives were interviewed even the boy, so is it true that there is life after death?
    Do we need to commemorate the Holy Week?Is there a verse that will justify the specific date of death, of our savior Jesus?

  18. Romans 9:19-23

    Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will?

    Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus?

    Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?

    What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction:

    and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory,…

    —————————————————————-

    Romans 2:4-5

    Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

    but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up for thyself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

  19. Romans 9:19-23

    Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he still find fault? For who withstandeth his will?

    Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why didst thou make me thus?

    Or hath not the potter a right over the clay, from the same lump to make one part a vessel unto honor, and another unto dishonor?

    What if God, willing to show his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering vessels of wrath fitted unto destruction:

    and that he might make known the riches of his glory upon vessels of mercy, which he afore prepared unto glory,…

    —————————————————————-

    Romans 2:4-5

    Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

    but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up for thyself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

  20. the one who is saying that God is demanding to kill innocent people is a very IGNORANT person. and most specially ignorant with the BIBLE.

  21. -Ma. Emily Balila (Miel)

    madam, there is a portion here where you can ask bro.eli about your doubts in faith… he is always welcome to answer your questions….

    May GOD Bless you in finding the truth…. ^_^

  22. Sabesi.

    I’d like to point out a few things from your previous reply that is wrong.

    You said…and I quote:

    {I’m not at all trying to defend lust, drunkenness, or breaking the commandments.}

    I have not in any way said or implied that you do…

    you also said:

    {I’m simply saying that there are in fact NO innocents in this world, ourselves included.}

    NO innocents? NO one? Whatabout babies? The mentally retarded? Aren’t they innocent?

    These go straight to heaven. Hence they are innocent. As a proof that babies go straight to heaven.

    [Luk 18:15 And they took their children to him, so that he might put his hands on them: but when the disciples saw it, they said sharp words to them
    Luk 18:16 But Jesus sent for them, saying, Let the children come to me, and do not keep them away, FOR OF SUCH IS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.]

    then you said:
    {passing judgment on them all}

    Was brother Eli passing judgement there? The judgement HAS been passed to these people. That’s why it is written that they have been put to death because of their wrong doings. Brother Eli just read the verses pointing out that these people are infact GUILTY to prove that the claim those infidels made was wrong

  23. Was brother Eli passing judgement there? The judgement HAS been passed to these people. That’s why it is written that they have been put to death because of their wrong doings. Brother Eli just read the verses pointing out that these people are infact GUILTY to prove that the claim those infidels made was wrong

  24. then you said:

    {while quietly ignoring the fact that any man who has been angry is considered a murderer in the eyes of the Lord}

    The fact? Is it really? Or just your assumption. Exactly which Lord are you talking about here? Cause it’s definately NOT the one from the Bible.

    Mat 5:22 says.
    [Mat 5:22 But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be in danger of being judged; and he who says to his brother, Raca, will

    be in danger from the Sanhedrin; and whoever says, You foolish one, will be in danger of the hell of fire.]

    the verse says: everyone who is angry WITH HIS BROTHER. Angry with his brother, which is different from what you’ve said (any man who has been

    angry).

    Going by what you said, God will consider me a murderer if i become angry with my PC for crashing before I saved my work.

    Conrast to your belief WE ARE allowed to be angry.

    [Eph 4:26 Be angry without doing wrong; let not the sun go down on your wrath;]

    See? we can be angry without doing wrong…all we have to do is not let the sun go down on your wrath (keep it in).

    and do you know that is actually a commandment for us to hate as well?

    [Rom 12:9 Let love be without deceit. Be HATERS of what is evil; keep your minds fixed on what is good. ]

    These people have been put to death because they are EVIL people. They angered God by blatantly disobeying Him…and according to Rom 12:9…be

    HATERS…HATERS of evil.

    God is angry with these kind of people…you as a follower of God…won’t you be angry too?

    I’m not replying to you in the intention of making an enemy.

    I just want to correct a fellow believer.

  25. To sabesi,

    You said, and i quote, ” the fact that any man who has been angry is considered a murderer in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 5:22)”.

    Unfortunately, that is not what the verse says. Read again. Notice the phrase, ‘with his brother without a cause’.

    Matthew 5:22  But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    I just wanted to correct what you said.

  26. To Ma. Emily Balila (Miel),

    No one can fully answer your questions biblically like Bro Eli, the only sensible preacher of our time, as Bro. Josel Mallari, would introduce him as.

    There is a tab in the upper part of this page. Please click on the one that says, ASK BRO ELI, and just follow the steps therein. And I know and believe, he will never fail to give you a concrete answer from the bible, God willing.

    And also, please watch the Ang Dating Daan program in Channel 37, or webcasts at these sites:

    http://www.truthcaster.com
    http://www.theoldpath.tv

    May God bless you!

  27. Atheists are very much UNSURE of what they are not capable of percieving as a reality. they PREMATURELY jump to absolute conclusions regardless of ABSOLUTE TRUTHS that their VERY LIMITED science has to offer for it came from LIMITED human intelligence. i will not argue with atheist about the significant contribution of science to humanity BUT i TOTALLY disagree with them by using human science to shape my belief as a human being for i know that human science CANNOT answer ALL of humanities valid questions. VERIFIABLE science for me is acceptable but i totally REJECT HYPOTHETICAL and UNVERIFIED scientific THEORIES such as the HYPOTHETHICAL theory of evolution. atheist must think on a much BROADER and DEEPER perspective and they must really reacquaint themselves with the term “LONG TERM”. atheist MUST agree with me if i say there are realities BEYOND what human senses can percieve. up until now your human science is very much UNSURE of the exact measurement of the WHOLE universe and what really is the smallEST element of matter. recently scientists have discovered that the atom is not the smallest component of matter but QUARKS and up until now scientists have not accurately determined why different types of quarks behave in six different kinds of behavior. now, may i ask those atheists? WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

  28. -sabes,

    When you said, “…quietly ignoring the fact that any man who has been angry is considered a murderer in the eyes of the Lord (Matthew 5:22).”

    Who taught you that being angry is considered murder in the eyes of the Lord? It states that when there is no reason to be angry to a brother and you did, then he is in danger of judgement!

    Matt 5:
    22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

    We are taught by Bro Eli to be careful using verses because it can create assumptions that leads to wrong faith.

    Let me remind you that if you do not get angry even once, you’ll die of heart attack or high blood pressure.

    Ephesians 4:
    25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

    26Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

    27Neither give place to the devil.

    Of course we can be angry but do not make it an excuse to kill or hurt anyone.

    That is how our God understands people like us. We are not hypocrites that do not get angry!

    More importantly, we are taught to speak truth to every man, thus when we speak, it should be biblical.

  29. Innocent people can be killed in the process but let us live judgment in the hands of God.

    We do not just make our stand, but rather we see to it that the flow of our reasoning would not conflict the basic truth from the bible. We do not just use verses from the bible to refute something just as the kind of your reasoning when you said, saesi, that, “I’m simply saying that there are in fact NO innocents in this world, ourselves included.”

    Maybe you are not innocent afterall, but to generalise is wrong.

    By the way, we never said that no one is innocent. We are not taught to judge anyone more so when we never even known how they lived their life.

    John 8
    1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

    9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

    11″No one, sir,” she said.
    “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

    If God can be merciful to those who transgressed the law, what more to the innocent ones? Jesus can cast the first stone, because he did not sin. He didn’t cast the stone because he knew God personally.

    And knowing God, how Jesus knows His Father, would make your understanding about His judgment even deeper and correct. Just do read a lot of Bro Eli as he read to us the answers from the Bible.

  30. Innocent people can be killed in the process but let us leave judgment in the hands of God.

    We do not just make our stand, but rather we see to it that the flow of our reasoning would not conflict the basic truth from the bible. We do not just use verses from the bible to refute something just as the kind of your reasoning when you said, sabesi, that, “I’m simply saying that there are in fact NO innocents in this world, ourselves included.”

    Maybe you are not innocent afterall, but to generalise simply using verses out of context is wrong.

    By the way, we never said that no one is innocent nor we said that everyone is not innocent. We are not taught to judge anyone more so when we never even known how they lived their life.

    John 8
    1But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. 2At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them. 3The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group 4and said to Jesus, “Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?” 6They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.

    But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger. 7When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, “If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.

    9At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there. 10Jesus straightened up and asked her, “Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?”

    11″No one, sir,” she said.
    “Then neither do I condemn you,” Jesus declared. “Go now and leave your life of sin.”

    If God can be merciful to those who transgressed the law, what more to the innocent ones? Jesus can cast the first stone, because he did not sin. He didn’t cast the stone because he knew God personally.

    And knowing God, how Jesus knows His Father, would make your understanding about His judgment even deeper and correct. Just do read a lot of Bro Eli as he read to us the answers from the Bible.

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  32. Everyword of God is a commandment!!!!!!!!!!. The Book of Joshua chapter one describes how we should be careful following every word of God. God is merciful but will not compromise with the breaker of his law.

    Homosexual are not an exception… it is even worse because satan has perverted the minds of the people. Satan is just doing his work of deforming that which was once right ………..can someone tell me If the living God made a mistake to create a woman and man? why didn’t he create two women or two men?

    “Satan’s Eden” is in people minds , still deceiving them.
    Looking back to Sodom and Gomorrah ….the situation in the world today is even worse than those many years ago when God destroyed the immorl people.

    There is nothing like innocent Homosexual…….. the bible says “…………………Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” reveletaion 18:2-4 .

    The world is the “her”

    But the blood of Jesus is there to redeem them if they want to be changed…….. the “innocent Homosexuals” are just poor at heart and spiritualy Blind………and satan has put them into captivity ……… that is why the bible says

    Luke :18 “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me,
    Because He has anointed Me
    To preach the gospel to the poor;
    He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted,
    To proclaim liberty to the captives
    And recovery of sight to the blind,
    To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

    Last but not least the word of the Bible says “I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, and acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service.
    And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good, perfect and acceptable, will of God .( romans 12 1 and 2 verses.

    john 8:44 satan is the father of lies thee is not truth in Him.

    God never makes mistakes………..

  33. I KNOW THAT THIS IS PROBABLY A FUTILE ATTEMPT AT INJECTING A BIT OF RATION AND REASON. BECAUSE OF THE FOG OF MAGICAL BELIEF, THE ONLY TIME ZEALOTS NEED THE PROTECTION OF OUR SECULAR LAWS IS WHEN THE PERSECUTION OF ANOTHER RELIGIOUS ZEALOT OF HIGHER RANK COMES KNOCKING AT HIS DOOR. I BELIEVE THAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CHRISTIAN PEOPLE AS THEY PRACTICE THEIR FAITH OF TODAY ARE SINCERELY ATTEMPTING TO EXTRICATE THEMSELVES FROM THE THIRTEENTH CENTURY.YOU SIR ARE A CHRISTIAN TERORRIST. YOU HAVE PUT INTO YOUR RANTINGS THE MANTRA OF EVERY RELIGIOUS TERRORIST THAT HAS EVER EXISTED. THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE A TRUTH THAT IS IMPARTED TO THEM BY A GOD AND THAT THE SLIGHTEST INFRACTION OF THE RULES CAN AND SHOULD BE METED OUT AT THEIR DISCRETION. ANYTHING FROM PUBLIC HUMILIATION TO CAPITOL PUNISHMENT. SINCE ALL THREE RELIGIONS IMMINATING FROM THE BIBLE (JUDAISM, CHRISTIANITY, ISLAM),HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SABBOTHS, THE IMPLEMENTATION OF KEEPING THE SABBOTH HOLY WITH THE PUNISHMENT FOR NOT, BEING DEATH, WOULD INSTANTLY PUT AT RISK THE LIVES OF MILLONS OF PEOPLE. PROBABLY OF LITTLE CONSEQUENCE TO YOU SINCE ACCORDING TO YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON INNOCENCE, NO ONE IS INNOCENT. I GUESS THAT MAKES THEM ELIGIBLE FOR YOUR RELIGOUS AND PIOUS RETROBUTION. (I.E. NO ONE IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS INNOCENT). I DO NOT ACCECPT OR BELIEVE AS TRUTH ANY INFORMATION THAT INSTRUCTS ME TO PERSECUTE, INSLAVE, DISCRIMINATE, OR KILL ANOTHER HUMAN BEING BECAUSE THEY DO NOT BELIEVE THE SAME AS I. YOU MY FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS CANNOT MAKE THE SAME STATEMENT. PLEASE STOP TRYING TO DEFEND THE INDEFENSIBLE.

  34. PITY. ARE YOU BRAGGING ABOUT YOU’RE SO CALLED RATION AND REASON CONCLUDED FROM YOU’RE OWN UNDERSTANDING? DON’T USE CLEVER WORDS TO HIDE YOU’RE IGNORANCE OF THE WORD OF GOD. YOU’RE USING EVERYTHING IN THE WRONG CONTEXT, AND IT’S POINTLESS TO EXPLAIN TO YOU EACH ONE.

    IT IS DANGEROUS TO SOLELY RELY ON YOU’RE OWN THINKING FOR IT’S SUSCEPTIBLE BIAS AND CORRUPTION.

    THE ANSWER TO YOU’RE QUESTIONS ARE ALREADY STANDING IN FRONT OF YOU. IF YOU WOULD JUST STOP THINKING HIGHLY OF YOU’RE SELF, AND OPEN YOU’RE EYES.

    GOD GAVE US THE THE GIFT OF FREE WILL, AND HE WON’T FORCE YOU TO BELIEVE IN HIM. IF YOU’RE ALREADY DECIDED TO WORSHIP YOU’RE OWN INTELLIGENCE THEN SO BE IT.

    ^_^

  35. works of a demoniac….. sorry guys but what this guy is saying is leading us away from our faith…. indeed the end times are nearing because as we see… the evil is desperate and does its work in doubled effort……

    keep in the light friends…… keep your faith because in the end.. whether we believe or not… there is a God and we will be judged according to our faith….

    God Bless!
    let God’s kingdom Reign!

  36. Thanks be unto God Bro. Eli, for another enlightening blog you wrote 5 years. ago. We could definitely reference your blogs to defend the truth.

    God bless you always Bro. Eli and we love you to the truest sense of the word.

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