The Truth is, God Can Heal Amputees.


This is a response to the forum on: http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/forum/index.php?topic=8292.0

Anybody thinking can easily notice that there is neither ‘meat’ nor weight in the response coming from these people who believe that God is imaginary. A pinch of law will make people realize that their response is nonsense. I used a bunch of verses, they said, to prove that my God is good. I am thankful they have noticed His goodness in the verses that I have cited; and I have the right to use such verses because I believe in Him who said those words; But under the law of estoppel, not one of these five (5) who responded have the right to use any verse in the Bible because they have denied the existence of God.

Estoppel: A legal principle that prevents a person from asserting or denying something in court that contradicts what has already been established as the truth.

equitable estoppel
A type of estoppel that bars a person from adopting a position in court that contradicts his or her past statements or actions when that contradictory stance would be unfair to another person who relied on the original position. For example, if a landlord agrees to allow a tenant to pay the rent ten days late for six months, it would be unfair to allow the landlord to bring a court action in the fourth month to evict the tenant for being a week late with the rent. The landlord would be estopped from asserting his right to evict the tenant for late payment of rent. Also known as estoppel in pais. http://www.nolo.com/definition.cfm/term/7F1E56D5-7EC1-4CEB-86B3943F6990FF77

“The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves.” Romans 14:22 (English Standard Version)

“As for you and your faith, keep your faith to yourself in the presence of God. The man is to be congratulated who does not pronounce judgement on himself in what his actions sanction.” (1912 Weymouth New Testament)

It is ridiculous to see that somebody who does not believe in God will use God’s word in casting doubts upon the integrity of the very same person he does not believe to exist. Imagine, an imaginary God, they say, and yet use such powerful words and bank on to make other people believe that that God does not exist. It is awfully funny, is it not?

Notice what they said in their RESPONSE:

The good reverend should not engage in mockery of the bald. God does not take it lightly!
See what He did to the naughty children in the story of Elisha and the bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%202:23-25;&version=46;

Some Boys Make Fun of Elisha
23Elisha left and headed toward Bethel. Along the way some boys started making fun of him by shouting, “Go away, baldy! Get out of here!” 24Elisha turned around and stared at the boys. Then he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Right away two bears ran out of the woods and ripped to pieces forty-two of the boys. 25Elisha went up to Mount Carmel, then returned to Samaria.

Again, these funny people say “God does not take it lightly” (mockery of the bald) used the Bible, which came from God they do not believe; even citing the verse in 2 Kings 2:23-25. Is it not funny? Not only funny but unfair for the God which they are trying to defame!

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Now, if their reason in using these verses that they have cited is that they believe in them, and they now believe in God; I want them to know that there is a way by which God can heal an amputee, when the hope of the righteous Christian will finally be realized.

(Corinthians 15:50-54) “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.”

They are obliged to believe this inasmuch as they are citing the Bible as an authority to refute other’s belief. This is logical and fair!

GIVE MY GOD A CHANCE TO FULFILL ALL HIS PROMISES IN HIS PERFECT TIME! THE QUESTION WITH UNFAITHFUL MORTALS IS THAT THEY ARE BLIND AND CAN NOT SEE AFAR OFF.

(2 Peter 1:9) “But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.”

Even rain has its bow and it is far-reaching!

55 thoughts on “The Truth is, God Can Heal Amputees.

  1. “AMEN”…..

    “…the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand.”
    —- Daniel 12:10

    Thank God we have you brother Eli.

    To God be the Glory!

  2. Brother Eli your the best blogger of all time! Thank God there is someone like you who use the internet to propagate the word of God! To God be the Glory!!!! Continue with your good intension. May God be with you always and guide you in everything you do!! Always take good care of yourself!! We are hoping for your response. Thanks be to God!! 🙂

  3. GOD is so great! He heal our pains thru His WORDS. Thanks for the WORDS that we hear thru Bro ELI. Thanks be to GOD.

  4. Do take care always, Bro. Eli. We miss you a lot… GOD BLESS YOU & BROTHER DANIEL! TO GOD BE THE GLORY! THANK GOD FOR PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

  5. GOD has appointed what was,is,to happen in HIS desired time not of man’s will! “….I AM what I AM,…”,YHWH (Old Testament). It took 2000 years (New Testament) for the scriptures to fulfill what CHRIST our Lord said,and it did! Do you have that life to witness what GOD the ALMIGHTY in CHRIST Decreed? you dont have a MICROGRAM or a GAZILLION dot of idea! you read alphabet right! you can read the Bible better than alphabet! you can start now!

  6. Interesting response. But the point of the website you mention is that God never heals amputees. Ever. Rather than indulging in legal semantics, why not simply produce the evidence that He DOES heal amputess today? That would shut them up faster than talking about “equitable estoppel”.

    • An amputee who receives the renewal of their limb will not be believed by mockers and skeptics. They mocked Jesus then, and they mock Jesus now. There are stories of amputees receiving restoration in Jesus’ name, but the skeptics do not want to believe and will not believe even if one rose from the dead to warn them to avoid coming to hell.

  7. Sir,
    I would never tell you that you should accept my claims without proper investigation of those claims. Nor would I create a situation in which I attack you, based on a statement that presumes that you cannot analyze my claims because you do not first believe in them. Doing so would be in bold faced contradiction to reason and common sense itself. It would also be a bold admission to engaging in dehumanizing behavior, because you are devaluing everyone outside of your paradigm as inferior to yourself.

    A formal apology, and perhaps a reasoned reply to the question would make a better response then engaging in blank statements meant to hatefully devalue others. It is no less then bigotry, prejudist, and hate.

    Chad

  8. S. Holttum, the website’s position is to refute the existence of God and that’s what Brother Eli has fended off successfully, using biblical verses and other semantics. God heals more than the physical components of His believers, and that is what is more important to us. Time will come when God will change and transform our physical bodies into immortal bodies (Phil. 3:21), removing all the infirmities and physical defects, so we are keenly and patiently waiting for that perfect time. We do not instruct our God to perform sudden miracles but rather, we let His will to be done in our lives. I am quite certain though that Brother Eli Soriano will have a rejoinder for you next time he goes online.

  9. Bro. Eli ang website author yata ng http://whywontgodhealamputees.com ay ulyanin dahil nag-umpisa siya nito:

    “Are you interested in learning how God works? Here are several starting points: ”

    All I can say is: THE AUTHORS OR SUPPORTERS OF THAT WEBSITE SPREAD DECEITS, CONFUSION AND FOLLIES inasmuch as they are sure that THEIR God works (none other than Satan).

  10. Bro Eli, Amen! to this article, and To GOD Be The Glory Forever!!!and may the good GOD continually use you to spread HIS hope to the hopeless. the guy on the video thinks his smart, but for me he’s just some mouth talking nonsense…he does’nt deserve to be called human cause he does’nt believe in the almighty GOD. Thanks be to GOD, if the israelite are lucky cause they have Moises, we at this are blessed for HE THAT HAS NO NAME THEN, ARE GOING TO BE KNOWN WORLWIDE BY THE HELP OF HIS SON, because HE sent you. TO GOD BE THE GLORY ALWAYS!!!

  11. Thanks to the great understanding God had given Bro.Eli..If not for his patience and real affection for the soul of other people, he will just let us believe in this deceitful revelations. Thanks to God for I believed that as long as there is one person like you…false teaching has no place in this world. My family and I pray that you reach more people, more places, more souls…

  12. To S. Holttum,

    Patience is a virtue. You are asking for ‘the evidence that He DOES heal amputess today?’. Wait until the hour, which only the Father knows.

    Matthew 24:36  But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

    When that comes:

    1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    Notice, when WE shall all be changed. Don’t you think the WE, who shall be changed. will not include amputees?

    Better change your views now before it’s too late. Only of course, if you want to be together with WE.

  13. To Chad,

    What Bro Eli gave was a reasoned reply in itself already. You are not just getting it.

    Why would apology be needed?

    These statements are not meant to hatefully devalue others but merely to dispute their baseless statements. And certainly, these are not blank, but based from the bible and science itself.

    The problem with athiests is that, their views prove to be ungrateful and thankless.

  14. all i can say is AMEN!!! those who do not believed in God, the time will come you will oblige to believed…(Proverbs 1:23-30) thats all..

    -rendyo

  15. So only the parts of the Bible which support your faith are allowed to be cited? No one is allowed to disagree with you, and use the disgusting, vile, hateful book you quote to show you your delusion?

    Quite typical arrogant christian behaviour.

    • I would truly appreciate it if you’d give some examples of the “hateful” scriptures. I’d love to have a chance to try to explain some of them. I’d also like to say that I’ve never met a REAL christian that was arrogant. There are SOOOO amny “christians” that say they’re followers of Jesus but then turn around and make people hate the God they claim exists just with their arrogant, snooty, holier that thou attitude, and, I can assure you THOSE are NOT the christians we need. The Jesus I knwo hung out with prostitutes, drinkers AND everything else. Even when the “priests” of the time twisted up the word to make them seem untouchable.

      • You want a hateful scripture? Sure, how about the part where God slaughters every living thing on the planet except for 8 humans and an ark full of animals? I’m sure there were a few innocent children who died. Oh and there’s always Numbers 31 and Deuteronomy 20:10-14. You’re welcome!

  16. To Phillip Corbett,

    If no one is allowed to disagree with us, your reply would not have been moderated to be posted in this site in the first place.

    How do you know of the right christian behaviour for you to judge us of a quite typical arrogant christian behaviour?

    Here is what christians do:

    Ephesians 6:12  For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

    You can site whatever verse you like. But for you to give your own interpretation to and ridicule them, then that is another case.

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  18. An amputee Christian will not pray to God to grow him another leg! A True Christian will ardently pray that God guides his path even if his leg gone, he will not fall in one way or another in terms of following the commandments, up to the coming back of Jesus Christ and be rewarded of the promise, an uncorruptible body.

    Let us not rebut here the way we do it in college just to prove a point. In college, we do not care whether we lie making sure that we have a basis of a lie and can present it as the truth. Because after all, it is just a lie used in just a game of debate.

    Let us debate the Christian way, always taking into consideration the soul of those who are listening/reading.

    I John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

    Without this attitude of concern, no wonder why atheists speak foolishly, they have nothing to lose. Their beliefs and ideology are strongholds that is easily pulled by the mighty through God!

    II Corinthians 10:2-4
    King James Version

    2 But I beseech you, that I may not be bold when I am present with that confidence, wherewith I think to be bold against some, which think of us as if we walked according to the flesh.

    3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:

    4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strongholds; )

    • It seems that you argument is that a true christian will simply deal with the hand that is dealt to them and pray for guidance in accordance with it. So, does this mean that a true christian would never pray to be healed from cancer or any other affliction that christians use to justify their supposed answered prayers? They would simply pray that their path be guided accordingly? Why should it be acceptable that a “true christian amputee” would never pray to have their leg healed, but a “true christian with cancer” would pray to be healed from cancer? This argument seems very shallow at best and irresponsible at worst.

  19. Show me Bro Eli. Your response substantiates nothing. You can throw scripture out there, but you haven’t proven anything. As a matter of fact, most Christians reading this response, won’t even read through the criticism I’m writing or take the time to find truth because I’m not on your side. I know this because I was a Christian. I know…you are probably saying I wasn’t a true Christian, or a good Christian, or I just didn’t have enough faith. And guess what…you would be wrong. I served in the church, had an incredible born again, spirit filled experience, did missions, was a youth leader and sacrificed much of my own purpose for the purpose of the church and god. It was the fear of truth of believers in the church that led me to see the incredible hypocrisy and judgment that man is capable of. My choice to walk away had to do with man, not god. After serving god with “BLIND FAITH” for the majority of my life, I decided it was ok to ask god the harder questions, and challenge my beliefs. That if god is real, he won’t mind because it will only ground me further in what I believe. You can not discredit truth. The purpose of science is to find truth. Science is a self correcting system. Once a theory is developed and a proof to that theory is found, scientists welcome other scientists to prove them wrong in the same hope of always finding truth. If only the church would do the same with an open mind. Guess what…scientists, logical thinkers, FREE thinkers have the right to question whatever they want including scripture. Why are Christians afraid of this? If you felt grounded in what you believe, you wouldn’t try to protect scripture or the bible from critique, you would welcome it knowing that “gods word” can protect itself. Wouldn’t you rather know if there are flaws in the religion you choose to live your life by?

  20. Listen to you all! “God CAN heal amputees!” How do you know? Given that ‘he’ never does it, nor ever will, it seem?

    It’s pretty simple. The Bible promises people powers, through prayer, which just don’t exist. No matter how much a devout believer amputee might pray, he will not get a leg grown back on. Contrary to what the Bible promises….

    Just face it, the most obvious explanation of this is that the all loving, seeing god you want to believe in just isn’t there!

  21. Well, a bad, sad experiences from the way hypocrites see Christianity in themselves does not necessarily mean that Christianity has flows.

    I do not think that you are just a critique of the Word, but rather the way you explain yourself implies strong doubt of the Truth in the bible.

    A blank slate is never a problem per se, unless you have adulterated it the way you use a computer: garbage in, garbage out.

    God knows your heart and will help you to know Him more if you still have the faith and the heart to continue searching for Him.

  22. The point that you’re missing in rebuking the atheists for using Biblical verses to discuss the existence of your god is that YOU believe that they are the infallible, divinely inspired word of your lord and creator. With that assumption already made on your side it is necessary for someone who is intellectually honest to piont out the blatant contradictions and abject cruelty which pervade this, your most holy book.

  23. I will not doubt the kindness of God. I believe that He has given everyman a chance to know Him, be it through His creation, and through the bible. My love for Him grew stronger the moment I learned that God placed his GRACE in the hearts of everyman – even myself, even before my parents were born.

    And the GRACE grew stronger in people like me, who learned to discover that “GRACE” in our hearts, the moment we learned to forgive, the moment we learned to have faith in Him.

    I will not expect more from you “comment post 24.” Why? If you can’t see God in his creations and if you can’t see God from His words in the Bible, how much more can you see Him in your heart?

  24. The way I read your comments hulttum, chad, corbett, halle, and lex, gives me the impression that you are only pretending that you dont believe in GOD. You seem to know some verses in the bible and in fact mentioned them. Your disgust for GOD and the bible if it is true must have been due to your exposure to the false Christian churches, whose leaders are themselves ignorant or are also purposely interpreting the bible incorrectly. You are in the right direction for interacting with Bro Eli. The matter of GOD’S healing the amputees are manifested spiritually as mentioned by Bro Eli when the children of GOD will be changed from a corruptible into a non-corruptible body. On the physical human form of the amputees, the gift of healing, the resurrecting of the dead and the other miracles were no longer given to men after JESUS CHRIST

  25. But thru faith and belief in the one true GOD many amputees and disabled persons all around the world are visible proofs that instead of becoming helpless, many of them became success-stories of amazing feats in sports, painting, arts, and many endeavors were they surpassed the accomplishments of normal people, this is a way of healing. Open your eyes friends and you will see many of them just near you gratefully thanking GOD everyday. Dont stop visiting Bro Eli’s blog, even if at the first time I read your comments, I was tempted to challenge you, now I pity all of you and I pray that before its too late, GOD will give you the gift to understand HIM and the TRUTH thru HIS bold, vocal, and frank Preacher and Messenger, Bro Eli. HONOR AND PRAISE BE TO THE ONE AND ALMIGHTY GOD.

  26. Do we NEED to see a growing limbs in order for us to believe that there is God who created human being? The matter you are alive when you amputeed in war is a great chance to give thanks to God. You have your temporary life to live in this temporary world.

    Glory be to God who created the universe.

  27. Pity on them to those who do not believe in God.

    In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
    II Thessalonians 1:8
    King James Version

    Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;
    II Thessalonians 1:9
    King James Version

  28. To 20 elmantheman:

    nothing to lose? are you sure? i think not, my brother. because of saying thing againts GOD and Jesus, those unbelievers of GOD and Jesus are losing their logic, sense of reasoning, righteousness, dignity, pride, time, mind, hope, courage, safety, love, piety, self-control, charity, faith, truth, justice, fortitude, kindness, mercy, selflessness, generosity, patience, humility, diligence and of course, their SALVATION! Poor fellows, when will they ever learn? If they are already burning in hell? If possible, they should not. SO WAKE UP!!!!!!! Believe HIM and his SON!!!! baka-tachi!!!

  29. Preach to those who are willing to listen. I say if they don’t wan’t it, then let them be. There are already clear answers to these questions that they are asking off. And if they want more, then they should turn to the Bible and meditate on it day and night. For their question is regarding God, so they can only find it’s answer in God’s word.

    The Bible is more than enough to answer all you’re worries regarding faith. Don’t just ask “Why don’t God do this or that?” or “Why do a lot of christians doing this and that? and then fomulate intelligent answers with fellow men that are corruptible. Our salvation is not spoon fed. If you want it you must work hard for it. Don’t rely on others to tell you what to do. It is not the preacher that you have listned to or religion that you have followed that will matter when time comes. It will be you’re relationship with God and on how you have followed his will.

    Don’t use you’re clever thoughts and worldly wisdom as an excuse to free you’re selves from God’s Law.

    In the end, i think the only purpose of those question are not to look for answers but to look for people that would agrree with them. It is their way of convincing themselves that, what they are doing is right and not be subjectable to God’s authority. And at the same time creating chaos to those that opose them, by twisting words and using their so called intelligence, in order to continue on doing what they do.

    The answers to the those questions are quite simple, if you are really trying to find it.

    If you’re looking for a medicine where do you think you can find it? If you’re looking for things to repair you’re house, where do you think you should go?

    Allas, that is all. I tried really hard to control myself not to criticize people, but the persistant excuses that they are blabbering on and on. Eventhough the answers are already in their face (Well sort of. You just need to look into some of the comments. But the answers are there, taken from the Bible). It’s right to ask questions but if the answers are already there and you’re just ignoring it, then it is no use in reasoning with you. You’re just looking for chaos.

    The greatest gift that God gave us is our own free will.
    He doesn’t want to force anybody to follow him, it’s gonna be up to us.

    Preach to those who are willing to listen. ^_^

  30. In response to those who argue that God does cannot heal an amputee is a very interesting topic. I have read through the postings on this and other websites, and I have a few questions for you. Have you ever seen anyone healed of any medical condition? I have personally seen healings in many people through prayer and faith in Jesus Christ. I know you may be saying, yeah, here goes another one of those snake handlers, but really -GOD CAN HEAL ANYONE. You may ask, well why doesn’t He heal those with amputations, or why does He allow bad things to happen, if He is a loving and caring God?

    God allows suffering because it teaches us that without God we would have no strength. He is our burden bearer. Suffering humbles, making us realize that it is only God who lifts us up. The pain of this world increases our faith and stretches our hope to God. In many cases He even uses suffering to turn towards Himself the eyes of those who would otherwise never see the light of His love.

    You may completely disregard my answer, saying that is a typical Christian response, but the very reason of my faith. There is no man that knows the totality of God, but life itself teaches us of Him. If you have ever watched the birth of a child, you see something made of nothing. Just because mankind has been corrupted by turning from God, even some Christians hypocritical, that does not mean Jesus Christ isn’t real. Search for yourself, for TRUTH, not just facts, but TRUTH. Just pray to God that if He real that He would reveal Himself to you.

    I found a few passages on Jesus’ healings in the Bible.

    He healed the nobleman’s son at Cana (John 4:46-54); He healed the lame man at the pool of Bethesda (John 5:1-9); He healed Peter’s mother-in-law (Matthew 8:14-15; Mark 1:29-31; Luke 4:38-39); He cleansed a leper (Matthew 8:2-4; Mark 1:40-45; Luke 5:12-16); He healed a centurion’s servant (Matthew 8:5-13; Luke 7:1-10); He healed a blind and mute demonic (Matthew 12:22; Luke 11:14); He healed the woman with an issue of blood (Matthew 9:20-22; Mark 5:25-34; Luke 8:43-48); He raised Jairus’ daughter (Matthew 9:18-19,23-26; Mark 5:22-24,35-43; Luke 8:41-42,49-56); and He restored Malchus’s ear (Luke 22:49-51; John 18:10).

  31. god cannot heal amputees

    can anyone tell any documented case of amputees regrowing their limbs??

    well, perhaps the wound heals and that’s common sense…it happens to everybody too when a wound heals(even atheists lol)…but can anyone tell of regrowing the limbs with everything in it including toes??

    if you wanna regrow limbs..trust the scientists who are into stem cell research that you are so offended by…..u just might have a higher chance of regrowing those limbs back rather than letting them clasp their hands in prayer hoping and waiting that their legs regrow just because they telepathically accept god…

    and why wait for the ‘hour’ or the ‘perfect time’ as some of the above claim?? thousands of children die from hunger…thousands of amputees get old and die without regrowing their limbs while of course praying hard all their lives…and all these ppl can say is ‘it is not time yet’…is this justifiable??

    and how bout those who will be in that ‘perfect time’, would they be considered lucky?? what if you weren’t included in that ‘perfect time’?

    and why would god allow suffering to happen at the expense of other people..i thought these people had souls too..not just something that can be disposed at his will just to teach us a lesson??
    and if they were disposable at his will…so are all of us..what if comes the time when it is our turn to be disposed to spread his teachings? is this a loving god? i see him more as sadistic….

    what about the dark ages? christianity wouldn’t reach your heads if its not through this war(which is one the longest and most brutal, most bloodiest, and stupid wars ever fought)…have u ever thought of that..and you think its all for the better good??..but what good did this war bring..can u name any?? its just the church thinking they are better than the pagans and labeling people they dont like as heretics and witches(women and children) so they have reason to kill and burn them at the stake

    i tell you…nothing will advance if religion keeps sticking their nose into everything..the dark ages is a big proof..

    and to bro. eli and all of those christians bashing other religions or atleast atheists..and to all atheists bashing other religions

    (and of course, im not bashing your religion, just telling my reasons..im just tellin you to refrain from thrusting your beliefs down other’s throats and telling it as fact that EVERYBODY SHOULD believe)

    contin..
    there is one thing you never had but i hope u will have….respect..just respect for one another can make the whole world alot more colorful place to live in………….’each to his own’..nobody is better than the other….so stop trying to be..

  32. Does the word respect includes letting false religion teach your sister, or brother, or parents or relatives and you will keep your distance?

    Okay, you will keep deaf ears and won’t even consider saving your relatives when they opted to listen to this false teachers, false prophets, etc. By the way, you surely have respect to people from staying away and let them drown in the false teachings of others.

    And by these, you still expect that this definition of respect can make the whole world a lot more colorful pache to live in?

    If telling reasons is not bashing, like what you do, then, let it be. Your voice definitely was heard. Tolerating evil is a sign of respect for you.

  33. Though I consider myself an agnostic, I would have to say I agree, per say, with the religious folks on this one. It is evident in there responses that they do not believe that god will sprout them new limbs, rather they will be in perfect physical shape in the afterlife they believe in. I would like to applaud the “believers” on this site for their well disposed responses to some very aggressive inputs from the “non-believers.” Though I enjoy debating religion, I feel they were acting very ignorant in their responses. All it takes is a little reading, and a little patience to realize they understand god won’t give people new limbs.

    • They have to admit that god won’t do it, they have no choice to admit that, as it has never happened. This was never the question…the question was why, and no answer has been given nor valid argument put forth on the side of the religious that would explain the obvious fact of the matter. The fact is, anything that has ever been claimed to have been corrected due to prayer is self-limiting in nature. Take any non-self-limiting event, meaning something such as amputation, which is not subject to self-healing or a coincidental favorable outcome, and there will never be a record of it having been corrected by prayer. Dodging the question at hand, the “why”, is not a well-argued response in any sense of the idea.

  34. Eliseo Soriano:

    Your argument carries no weight whatever as you have simply tried to sidestep the real issue by using legal double talk to try to redirect the attention away from the Bible’s inconsistencies.

    The question isn’t a legal one, it is a simple straightforward issue that is easily solved by you if your god is real.

    This issue at hand is this….

    Can you produce even one reliably documented case where your god has healed even one amputee?

    The answer of course is, NO, you cannot because god is imaginary.

  35. Oh yes, whenever I have a problem I expect God to fix it. I failed a test, so it’s God’s fault. I went to a war and got my arm blown off so I want it back God. Really? God does answer your prayers, just sometimes with a big, fat NO. It might hurt and it might seem unjust, but it’s God we’re talking about here. God doesn’t heal amputees, because he said no. Fair? Who knows. How about being thankful that you’re alive, and didn’t die a stillborn? It all depends on how you look at it.

  36. Why have we presupposed the definitive question that will decide whether God exists is ‘why won’t God heal amputees?’

    Why do most atheists misquote Bible verses, or quote verses out of context?

    • Why are atheists so arrogant that they feel they have to force other people into believing in what they have put their faith in?

    • Only time will tell whether God exists, it will never be proved or disproved in this life.

    • Listen to everything with an open-mind and apply logic and reason to all you are told is fact.

    • If you do read the Bible, do so thouroughly and with an unbiased perspective. Never read passagesin isolation always get the context of the verse, the chapter and the book if neccessary.

    • Finally, do you realise that if you prove a man to be wrong he will hate you, but if you gentlypoint him in the right direction (whatever it might be) he will show you no animosity; even if his truth isn’t yours.

    Written by a Christian with an open mind, I believe God exists, that His Son died on the cross for my sin and therefore saved me from a lost eternity; but I believe this because I read the Bible for myself, not because someone told me this was the truth and expected me to take their word for it.

    Should the creation really question its creator in matters of morality?

    And if you don’t believe in a creator who, exactly, are you angry at, because I am yet to meet an atheist who isn’t angry.

    • • Listen to everything with an open-mind and apply logic and reason to all you are told is fact.

      — you could not possible follow your own advice and still believe the bible is factual

      Why have we presupposed the definitive question that will decide whether God exists is ‘why won’t God heal amputees?’

      — it is not the definitive question, it’s simply a glaringly obvious example of the many available possibilities.

      And if you don’t believe in a creator who, exactly, are you angry at, because I am yet to meet an atheist who isn’t angry.

      — i was raised in christianity and lived accordingly for 25 years…and never was i as happy, relieved and filled with awe at the happenings in nature around me as I am not that I no longer believe.

      If you want to know why I’m an atheist, I’ll leave you with this: 1 Corinthians, 15:11 — When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I put childish ways behind me.

  37. Caleb:
    Perhaps God is saying not now, but soon. We live in a day that people are extremely skeptical about God. If there minds can’t comprehend or add it up, then they refuse to believe it. Yet, they’ll put their trust in people, money, fame and things which, to my knowledge, has never made anyone whole or happy. Two of the very things Jesus freed us from were sin and sickness. There were places in Jesus’ ministry when He performed miracles it says, ALL were healed. If God can give someone an eye or new organs, certainly He can give you a new foot, hand, etc. Jesus even said that WE would perform greater works. I believe Him! I was born with a deficiency where I could not digest milk at all because my body was missing a certain enzyme. Even the tiniest bit of milk or something with milk in it would cause me to throw up violently. The doctors said that I suffered from an extreme case of it and would always be like that. My mom kept telling me God was going to heal me. Finally when I was seven, this preacher prayed for me and instantly my body was healed. The enzyme that was missing, God instantly put it there. It was like an outer body experience. If God can put things on the inside that aren’t there, certainly He can put them on the outside. The body’s the body! Check out the website:
    http://scotwise.blogspot.com/2005/06/theology-vs-applied-theology.html. Read the whole thing. Many of those healings were actually reported in major newspapers during that time. God Still Moves Like That!!!

  38. I like what you’ve said here, Soriano. Also, I just wanted to point out that God has healed amputees. It happened under the ministry of Smith Wigglesworth and still happens today. I’ll do a little more research to see what kind of documentation I can find. Although I doubt any documentation would satisfy some of these angrier writers.

    In the meantime, I believe there’s another reason that people aren’t always healed. It’s a common question even for Christians. It’s a similar question to “Why isn’t everyone saved?” It’s a matter of faith. To be saved, we have to believe Jesus already paid for our sins and believe we have received it. It’s the same with healing. To be healed we have to believe we have already received it, because Jesus already paid the price for our healing. (“By his stripes we WERE healed.) Many people who want to be healed aren’t. But wanting isn’t enough. There needs to be faith without unbelief. Doing that is sometimes easier said than done, especially when you’re staring at a missing limb.

    Obviously, there are a lot more facets to healing. Here is a link to a short article by my favorite Christian teacher, and he summarizes it a lot better than I can.

    http://www.awmi.net/extra/article/wants_well

  39. Interesting discussion…..

    I’d like to end the debate.

    On my blog I post testimonies of people miraculously healed of everything from Lou Gehrig’s disease, blindness, brain tumors, breast cancer, fibromyalgia, PTSD, migraine headaches, AIDS, broken ankles, Alzheimer’s, bipolar disorder, carpal tunnel, massive heart attacks, lacotose intolerance, multiple sclerosis and many other diseases. In many of the testimonies the patient’s physicians testify to the miracles.

    I recently posted 30 testimonies of near death experiences including about a dozen people raised from the dead after more than 10 minutes of cardiac arrest. Several of them were raised from the dead 3 days later, one was already embalmed.

    I heard. but have not yet been able to confirm a case of an amputee who was healed. When I get confirmation, I’ll post the story on my blog, but here’s the short version: Heidi and Roland Baker are missionaries to Africa. They’ve been witnesses to over 100 people being raised from the dead during their time in Mozambique. Most of the men resurrected are Christians killed by neighboring Islamic tribes. Their friend Bill Johnson recently told one of those stories. A man was attacked and beheaded, then his arms and legs were cut off. His killers had heard about Christians being raised from the dead, so they tossed his body parts in the ditch on both sides of the road after killing him in an attempt to keep him from being resurrected. His friends prayed for a resurrection and the next day he was raised from the dead. He went into the village where his murders lived and confronted them. The entire village was converted.

    Here is a similar story for those who want to investigate these claims:

    http://mobileintensiveprayerunit.blogspot.com/2010/03/raised-from-dead-in-africa.html

    Thanks for your time,

    prayingmedic

  40. God is holy and just. We were cursed because of our sin. Back in the day, when you killed something that was cursed the people would rejoice. The Bible had called us cursed. God, being so just, would have to not contradict himself by being in the presence of us, being filthy. We deserve hell, and even if we were going to hell, God would still be worthy of our lives and praise. Though out of His love, he took the separation that was meant for us, through Jesus Christ. God doesn’t even have to do anything for us, but He does what He does because out of mercy and love.

  41. There is no sentence here that explains the reason why your “god ” wont heal amputees or answer prayers. Its more gibberish of the same thing. Of course non believers will use the bible to disprove, because the bible is filled with that and other discrepancies. You cant ask a nonbeliever not to use the bible to disprove because its like telling a lawyer, do not use that evidence, even though the evidence can be critical to the case. The website provided challenges for people to see if god is real or another fairy tale. My favorite: In Matthew 18:19 Jesus says:
    Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven. For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    Every person who boasts themselves as a christian has prayed at least once for the poverty of this world and the countless children dying. If there is a god who is letting all these children die slowly of diseases, he is no different than the wealthy people who dont give a damn about them.

    • The problems of pain, suffering, crime, hunger, war etc, are real. Their existence does not disprove that God exists or that if he exists, He is unloving. They actually proving nothing about God, but they do suggest that the human race is pretty messed up. We are the ones who perpetrate these things on each other, as an exercise of our free will.

      People who teach that God is a sovereign being, controling every action of man are people who know little about him, except what the hear preached at them on Sundays. God has given us free will to do as we please. If we decide to live as hateful people – we can’t blame God.

      The problems you mentioned suggest that there may be a criminal mastermind at work, who opposes what is good, just, noble, peaceful and loving. In short – they support the biblical narrative that there is a real war going on between good and evil and planet earth is the battlefield.

      If there is a war, then we are soldiers (some are more like prisoners) and some are fighting on the wrong side. How do we fight this battle? Along with free choice, God gave us some degree of supernatural power to use in our warfare. I happen to use healing a lot. Sickness and disease are not part of God’s plan – they are something the enemy brings to the battle. My warfare involves healing the sick, like Jesus taught his disciples to. But that’s another story, I guess.

      I post testimonies of healing on my website. Many of the miracles are verified by doctors.

      By the way – not long a go I was an atheist. Even after becoming a Christian, I din’t believe in healing for many years. But unless you’re crazy, you can only deny the truth for so long.

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