just because someone wrote in the bible “thus god spake unto” right before their words doesn’t mean they didn’t lie. this isn’t evidence of anything. you’re just assuming that the people who wrote in the bible wouldn’t dare cross that line.

hmm, it seems your only evidence for other texts being wrong is that they contradict things in the bible. if all other doctrines had the exact same beliefs, but with different words, would they be acceptable?

“for the husband is the head of the wife” that sounds really nice, but unfortunately, man and woman are equal. you could even make the argument that women are superior because they create life, and in fact in science now they can impregnate a woman with DNA from another woman. so us men are almost obsolete.

Please don’t delete my comments, I would love to have a conversation sometime. Much love! =D

Remember that God first lived by a promise to Abraham, then the law came about since people had difficulty living sin free lives under that promise and the promise was eventually fulfilled through Jesus.

Too many Christians try to “buy” their way into heaven by living moral and decent lives.

True Christianity is based on the basic belief that Jesus died on the cross, taking the weight of the world’s sins on his shoulders and left our sin in the grave when He rose again.

I think morality comes as a consequence of believing. To explain myself : if you love God with all your heart and your neighbour, you don’t want to kill your neighbours or steal from them. Now that is out of love, not because a book tells you not to.

Jesus himself says that to look at a woman with lust is to commit the act of adultery. The fact is that man always falls short of the glory of God … and that is where the message of grace overtakes the message of morality. Jesus was trying to demonstrate that it is impossible for man to stick to the legalistic code set forth in the bible.

This does not in any way mean that I condone acts of immorality … quite the opposite is true. But I believe that people concentrate too strongly on the topic of living a moral life and completely ignore the issue of faith and living in the love of God.

Be careful that you don’t get bound too strongly into the law of the bible that you get blinded to its element of grace and forgivness.

And remember … obeying the law is not what saves you, it is your acceptance of Christ as your saviour. “Your offerings are as dirty rags before me”. You cannot win grace by your deeds.

Nor can you lose it … the parable of the lost son. Remember that under the new covenant we are children of God, not servants as in the old testament and our inheretance is secured by our faith, not by our deeds.

Seek ye out of the book of the Lord and read: no one of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for My mouth it hath commanded and His spirit it hath gathered them.
Isaiah 34:16

The current LDS Church has not practiced polygamy in almost 100 years.

Now my question to SethR:

Do you think your group is of God when part of your doctrines is that your God will allow the practice of polygamy? Your leaders arepolygamous??? Is that Godly???

The Bible is very specific to whom one should cleave to a group which is of God. Please read:

Romans 12:9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.

Abhor that which is evil… are your leaders of evil when they are polygamous? Do they cleave to that which is good? Are you cleaving to that which is good?

The Church of God, from the start, abbhor the practice of polygamy.

The LDS Church practiced, as you have written, practiced polygamy? Can that organization be of God?

I believe you know the right answer.

There is group in the Bible which is of God… THE CHURCH OF GOD IN CHRIST JESUS.

Nowhere in the Bible you will find such group named THE MORMON CHURCH????

May God help you change heart join the right group for your salvation.

Welcome and we love you!

Bro. dominik

Hello ruark,

So are you saying that God laws are not absolute?
Does this mean that God changed his mind?

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um… so…

i am not saying that God’s laws are not absolute… i’m sorry if what i said led you to think that…

God’s laws ARE absolute… but only up until the point He chooses to change it or improves it… it clearly shows in the bible.. so i do not need to say it for myself… and i cannot say that I am saying it..

see here…

Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then would no place have been sought for a second.

God found that the first covenant was NOT faultess, so He chose to make a second covenant.
that’s one of the reasons why there’s an old testament and a new testament.lol

up until the day before the second covenant was made,
the first covenant WAS absolute… it was, by any means, should be followed COMPLETELY…

but then the second covenant was made, after God found that it was NOT faultless… that changes things… which means that the second covenant is now much better than the first.

Now this 2nd covenant that we have here, that Jesus had left to us.. is absolute..

i’m saying is… God dictates, when it comes to HIS laws… which is absolute or which should be changed if He wishes to..

Now you asked if it meant that God changed his mind…

before i answer that…
Who has the right to say what God can and can’t do? Nobody has the right to say what God can and can’t do. God can do what ever He WANTS provided that He really wants to…

God found that the people He chose a long time ago were not worthy… after a long time of trying to make them all become worthy, God changed his mind and stopped focusing just on those people He chose.. but He opened the doors for everyone..

He opened the doors for everyone and anyone to be a “candidate” who will be worthy of His kingdom. I’ve already sited the verses from the bible.. about the parable of the wedding feast.

that’s all, i think… i might have had forgotten to address an i issue you want me to address, so feel free to tell me i’ve forgotten something.:) i’d be glad to say i’m sorry and thank you for reminding me.:)

ruark is just telling you that in the bible the laws murder children is to be executed BY the israelites, NOT by the gentiles, since GOD told King Saul to kill all Amalakites (a tribe of people that are considered an enemy of Israel), this include the animals too. I repeat the verse you red is about GOD telling King Saul and his army to kill not just children, but all Amalakites. Since children today are do not belong to the Amalakite tribe, DO NOT KILL! If you kill, you are transgressing the word of GOD. In the bible, there are laws suitable for birds, water, cattle, the sky, etcetera though many of them are not written in the bible because the bible’s focus is laws for men to follow in order to be saved, and acoording to the bible the laws written are enough. Since there are laws for all beings to follow, of course there are laws for us to follow. The law said by GOD to Saul and company are to be follow just for that time. God didn’t say that this law will be there for good so after the slaughter, the law will be abolished. This simply doesn’t mean that all laws of GOD will end that fast because there are certain laws of GOD that will remain in service till the end of the world, even though we cannot hide the fact the there are laws in the bible that has their own deadline of expiration, like for example the ten commandments. Read the bible, there you will find the true light.