The Truth About the Debate against Sam Jordison


Recently, I received a response from Sam Jordison asking why our supposed debate have not been organized. The response goes like this:

“Why did you chaps never manage to organize that debate in the end? I’m still very keen. In the meantime, I thought you might like to know that my new book has been released…”

The talk of a debate against Jordison started when a reader of mine asked me what can I say about an article by (Jordison) calling the Bible as a “readable mess”. I, in turn, answered with an article. Jordison’s first comment on that article was:

“…I’m not sure if I’ll be coming back here as I’m finding the experience a bit – uh- unsettling, but do feel free to post on my blog again… I’m sure we can have an interesting discussion.”

Although he said this, Jordison did came back and visited my blog — this time to promote his book.

“…Hey, listen, I wrote a book you chaps might find interesting:
The Joy Of Sects. You should be able to pick up a copy from amazon.co.uk…”

After that, I made a follow-up article also dedicated to Sam Jordison. Surprisingly, he (Jordison) took his time out to visit and post a comment (again) on my “unsettling” blog. The comment goes like this:

“Hello again,

This article is very interesting too…

…I’ve been getting some comments on my blog about running a debate with Bro Eli and I’d be happy to accept… as long as “logistics” all work out and co… The moderator of this blog is welcome to email me so we can arrange details…”

This was when I learned that brothers in faith actually posted a challenge on his website for him to have a debate against me. I have learned that brethren from London tried to arrange everything for the said debate to transpire.

I would like to make this clear to my readers that I am, with God’s help, always willing and ready to any discussion or debate wherein I will have an opportunity to prove the existence and the magnificence of the Almighty God that I have been serving all my life. This fact is known to every brother and sister in faith in the Church of God, International.

Since the planned debate was provoked few months ago, brothers in faith have been working for the realization of such event, but much to my dismay, an email was forwarded to me by a brother in London which came from Mr. Jordison himself asking for payment and expenses that he will encounter. It is explained by the email hereunder:

“…Have you found a suitable time and date (about the debate)?

…I’d also like to discuss payment, travel expenses and co if possible… Much better to get these things down in email so there’s no confusion than on the phone… What are your terms/ budget etc. I can’t imagine that the whole event is going to be anything less than personally humiliating from my point of view so I’d like some compensation…”

In my four decades of preaching the Gospel, with God’s help, I never asked for a fee from anybody. To this, my witnesses are innumerable.

(2 Corinthians 11:7) Have I committed an offense in abasing myself that ye might be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?

Abasing* is humbling oneself before God and before fellowmen.

[*ταπεινόω

tapeinoō

tap-i-no'-o

From G5011; to depress; figuratively to humiliate (in condition or heart): - abase, bring low, humble (self).]

This is a virtue that was not learned by preachers who preached for the sake of money and gain.

(Micah 3:11) The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? None evil can come upon us.

Abasing or humbling oneself is one of the most important admonitions of the Bible.

(James 4:10) Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

(Luke 14:11) For whosoever exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

This is the best example that was shown when the Lord Jesus Christ took the form of a man.

(Philippians 2:5-8) Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

A preacher, by not asking for profit, abases himself. This is the first rule Christ gave His apostles when He sent them to preach.

(Matthew 10:7-8) And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

But there are those pretending to be of God preaching because of money or material gain.

(John 10:12) But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

The hireling fleeth, because he is a hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

The first century Christians did not (in any manner) took anything from none Christians in preaching the word of God.

(3 John 1:7) Because that for his name’s sake they went forth, taking nothing of the Gentiles.

The apostle Paul went to the extent of working with his hands to sustain his needs in preaching the Gospel.

(Acts 20:33-35) I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel. Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me. I have showed you all things, how that so laboring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.

And these sacrifices for the Gospel’s sake He has done with gladness.

(2 Corinthians 12:15) And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

Look for a preacher now in this dispensation who spends his own earnings to finance the glorious gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will find most of them amassing wealth by perverting the Gospel.

(2 Corinthians 2:17) For we are not, like so many, peddlers of God’s word; but as men of sincerity, as commissioned by God, in the sight of God we speak in Christ. RSV

And the apparent result is their failing effort to hide their riches and luxuries coming from the very little resources of poor members.

(Jeremiah 5:26-27) For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as he that setteth snares; they set a trap, they catch men. As a cage is full of birds, so are their houses full of deceit: therefore they are become great, and waxen rich.

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It is a great disappointment for me to hear that Sam Jordison, who will futilely disprove the existence of God and expose to people the ‘garbage’ in his mind, is asking for a fee.

(Isaiah 55:2) Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labor for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

I would rather add my last cents to my contributions for the poor children of the earth than to spend it to somebody like Sam Jordison; as always for the praise and glory of my God!

Sincerely in Christ,

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Brother Eli

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"But none of these things move me, neither do I count my life dear to myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus Christ, to testify fully the gospel of the grace of God." Acts 20:24

121 Responses to The Truth About the Debate against Sam Jordison

  1. Julius says:

    Sam Jordison is just misleading people for him to earn money easily. Imagine him selling his nonsense books… and asking Bro. Eli to pay him in exchange for the humiliation he will receice because of as he said his “own point of view”. He clearly stated that what he tells people are just his point of view… so better think twice before believing in this man!

  2. To Sam ¨Chaffy Chap¨ Jordison,

    You´re still ALIVE? Thanks be to our God, the God of Israel for that! Truly that the Words of God are all-seasons true unto all generations for God is faithful (1 Corinthians 1:9) who cannot lie and true to His words and promises (Titus 1:2). For despite the disinformation, misinformation and malicious accusations against the Bible, our God and our saviour, Jesus Christ that you´ve spread all throughout the globe, you are still alive and kicking till this very moment. Truly that God´s words are true, bespeak and always come to reality (Matthew 5:45)
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    ¨45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the EVIL and on the GOOD, and sendeth rain on the JUST and on the UNJUST.)¨ (KJV)

    It is God´s justice that makes you alive until now. He is giving you all the cjhance to repent and recant to what you have done wrong against Himespecially. He is bearing LONGSUFRERING tantamount to your salvation (2 Peter 3:15)
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    ¨15And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;¨ (KJV)

    But if you will continue to be disobedient, hardheaded and obstinate, well, you´re reserved for come the judgment day. Things due to you awaits ahead come the doomsday. For each man will be judge according to his work (Revelation 20:13)
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    ¨13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.¨ (KJV)

    Oh com ón, chaffy chap, you´re nothin but a ¨GOOD-FOR-NOTHING MUTE IDLER MAIMER TRUMPET of your kind. Don´t you have any nobler style to hide your ¨TACKY SILLY ARTIFICIAL BRAVERY¨ as if you are able to stand in a ONE-ON-ONE DEBATE with Bro. Eliseo Fernando Soriano????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a chaffy chap idea?!

    Oh com ón, don´t make it sound you´re really interested in that debate’ after a long time of DEEP SOUND OF SILENCE of your end. You´re not doing significant effort to settle that. Don´t be very hypocritical SumMATIVE Chaffy Chap JorDIEsoon.

    ________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    Don´t hallucinate that we, the Christian believers (whom you vilify a lot) will just simply purchase your SCRAP CRAP IDEAS using your bluff marketing strategies.
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    I quote: will you do yourself a favor?

    Buy a copy of the Holy Bible and read it thoroughly from Genesis to Revelations as many times as needed, until you can somehow develop the basic skill of reading comprehension in a positive way, ok?

    If you can´t still understand what you´re reading, don´t even assume that you really can write a book. Or you may consider finding yourself another job. (Just a friendly unsolicited advice. Take it or leave it!!!)

    Don´ waste your time folly Sam. I cant help but say nthis for we cant wait for that debate you´re talkin for it is somehow impossible in your end. Our masterDebater is much ready. Bro. Eli is just waiting for your cold call for gentleman debate. But I don think you´re doin it out form your end. Huh!!!

    I can´t wait for it. I am excited to see you dude JorDIEsoon bathing with your own sweat and tears after all.

    xian…

  3. PUMP0919 says:

    Just by comparing bro. Eli’s explanation using the bible and Sam Jordison’s arguments, we can clearly see, who of them is telling the truth. There’s no need for a debate anymore. I know already, if ever the debate will pursue that bro. Eli will be the winner!!!

    Hey Sam Jordison, reading your books is just a waste of time!!!

  4. smolville says:

    What a poor guy? No wonder he mocked our God to have some publicity or I might say SHAME to sell his books. I hope he realize his mistakes and submit himself to our God’s guidance. Thanks be to God for giving Bro Eli the courage, strength and undisputable wisdom to defend His Words. To God Be The Glory.

  5. michael santos says:

    Sam Jordison, a bold example of a false preacher.. tsk tsk..

  6. flor says:

    Humiliation for sale!!! :))

    Even if Jordison’s books are free, won’t take it… will just consume space. What a piece of crap!

  7. bernard says:

    just as i though, sam jordison is nothing more than a coward who wants nothing more but to profit from people whom he is deceiving just like the church of manalo in the philippines.

  8. enton says:

    To Sam:

    Why haven’t you give your reply, I am reading your reply, and your book why is it so costly when few years or more from now, it will be discarded or sold requiring an eighth of a penny.

    Enton Ces

  9. G says:

    Dear brethren in London:
    I beseech you to please ignore this person already and just allow God to judge him when the day of judgement comes. Even if that person says all manner of evil against us, just pray for him – from the start, I’m sure you can already tell from what side he is (sa kanyang amang diablo).

    I know that it’s hard – I also can feel what you’re feeling – but in my opinion, I think the real purpose why this person is pestering us is simply to act as a distraction and annoyance, as angering God’s children is one of satan’s temptations. Don’t you think so?

    Let us instead focus on our work at hand and listen to Bro. Eli as he guides us through this journey with God’s help and mercy. Don’t waste your time on such a thing. Pasensya na po, hope you understand.

  10. M says:

    Hahaha what are your terms/budget he says. Can you believe this guy? Guess he’s not earning enough from his books…this just shows you how much of a garbage writer this person is…can’t even defend what his own claims.

    Your books should be in the fiction section…actually it would be an insult to Dr Seusse and Co. to have your books with theirs. Man I can’t believe your article was printed in the papers…then again…majority of the people in the world today prefers to read garbage so say hello to Sam Jordison’s article.

    Sad…

  11. seed says:

    if Bro. Eli will just forget about preaching the Bible, and just be an ordinary person in this earth, then we would see him as one of the millionaires in our country as he is a very good businessman. and also Bro. Daniel will be one of the most powerful and influential broadcaster in our country.

    But these two people didnt ever think twice of serving the Lord. They will spend and will gladly be spent for the doctrines of God and for the salvation of others.

    They even sell their possessions, and even offer their lives. In this way, they are living example of what the apostles did before. In this way, the Christians in our time are also following their examples. Spending, giving all the efforts that we have for the glory of God to be know to all the people.

    We dont even get anything from people whom are not members in the Church of God. In fact, we are serving them, giving free services like free ride in UNTV bus, free legal consultation, free medical services, free.. everything is free… That’s the Christian way!

    And if a person daring a debate with Bro. Eli and Bro. Daniel but involving monetary issues, wouldn’t it be clear enough that we should not waste our time believing in that person.. simply for money.. just forget it!

    We know who already won. Thanks be to God, we know we’re on the right track!!!

  12. elmantheman says:

    “Freely received, Freely give”

    I noticed, as I browse from one blog to another, that preachers rumble about their views of the Word of God in the form of a blog. They also exchange scriptural idealism based on their own understanding and interpretation. They too formed circle of friends through blogs and within advertise each others’ merchandise through comment-posting. What do you think are their merchandise? They sell their books containing their views about the gospel! Even Atheists and other authors do this by disproving the Holy Scriptures, to the extent of adulterating what they believe has no existence, more so, they profit from their deceit in this world!

    From their blogs, some allow comments outside of their circle, but some really delete comments that oppose their views. You can try to browse and see for yourselves.

    2 Corinthians 2:14-17 says:

    But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of him. For we are to God the aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing.

    To the one we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life. And who is equal to such a task?

    Unlike so many, we do not peddle the word of God for profit. On the contrary, in Christ we speak before God with sincerity, like men sent from God

    But how about the aroma that these peddlers spreads? It stinks for us who understands the Truth:

    Ecclesiastes 10:1-3
    1 As dead flies give perfume a bad smell, so a little folly outweighs wisdom and honor.
    2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.
    3 Even as he walks along the road, the fool lacks sense and shows everyone how stupid he is.

    Imagine, these peddlers does not only write a little folly but a whole book or more! But time will come that they shall weep, unfortunately not because they received the judgement for their folly but because no one buys their merchandise. That’s how hardened their hearts had become.

    Revelation 18:11-13,19
    the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, 12cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, 13cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls. 19And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out, “Alas, alas, for the great city where all who had ships at sea grew rich by her wealth!For in a single hour she has been laid waste. 20Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets,for God has given judgment for you against her!”

    Their hearts were hardened already. Can we just believe to be saved? To whom shall we believe in? Who shall speak in behalf of God? Let us hear what Apostle Paul said about believing and salvation as being read to us by Brother Eliseo Soriano.

    Glory to God forevermore. We remain an unworthy servants.

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  14. js says:

    To Poor Sam Jordison,

    It’s sad to hear (from what I perceive) that you think that this is just a “gimmick.”

    I can’t imagine that the whole event is going to be anything less than personally humiliating from my point of view so I’d like some compensation…”

    This is about your garbage you are injecting onto people!

  15. ohh…. poor Sam jardison…

  16. To Sam jardison:

    It would be better and Useful if Your Books ..you will sell it to the junk Shop.. and the money you will earn give it to the poor.., It’s just that simple!

    http://www.janmikez.wordpress.com

  17. a member says:

    To Sam:

    your books are compared to a roller coaster ride. It will make you feel dizzy and crazy, yet your paying for it!
    Its a lot of nonsense!!

    It simply means that you are selling people shit!! and your victims didn’t know about it. They are buying ticket to hell!!

    asking a fee for a debate?!! what priniple in life do you have?! all for money?!!!

    we want a debate! not prepaid!

  18. To Summative ¨Chaffy Chap¨ JorDIEsoon,

    …Hahaha…… LOL!

    You´re still alive…!

    I´m sorry to say these but I can´t hold my fingers intact and unmoved…

    Now, you have revealed, displayed and broadcasted the REAL YOU – “CHAFFY CHAP JorDIEsoon…”

    To add insult to injury, your REAL COLOUR was widely devulged based on your response to the very challenge of Bro.Eli for that supposed debate, your very email that expressed your deepest and sincerest desire to earn a no-ordinary gains. It is just one of the gross CARDINAL PROOFS that you belong to such CONGREGATION of OPPORTUNISTS, HYPOCRITES (Job 15:34), of EVIL DOERS (Psalms 26:5), of the DEADS (Proverbs 21:6) and PROFITEERS (2 Peter 2:3)
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    “3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make MERCHANDISE of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.”

    mentioned in the Holy Scriptures to the expense of using the Holy Bible in perversive and heretical ways just to earn extraordinary profits (2 Corinthians 2:17)
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    “17 Unlike many people, we aren’t SELLING God’s word TO MAKE MONEY. In fact, it is just the opposite. Because of Christ we speak honestly before God. We speak like people God has sent.” (NIRV) – New International Reader’s Version

    and having much more lies for you are the JORdieSON of your FATHER (John 8:44)
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    “44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” (KJV)

    Shame… Shame… Shame… what a MILLION SHAMEFUL LUCRATIVE CARDINAL UTTERLY CAPRICE of YOU Chaffy Chap Summative JorDIEsoon… Shame… Shame on you…!!!

    Bro Eli. would rather spend the most of his pocket cents to the poor and poorest of the poorest than giving it to an SLOVENLY UNSCRUPULOUS LUCRATIVE PECUNIARY WICKED MONEYMAKER…

    Shame on you…

    What a shameful JorDIEson. I pity you…

    You still have the great chances to repent and change… Do it now or worst yet, you will be late!!! All chances are yours!!! Hurry JorDIEsoon! May the Lord God of Israel enlighten your dim heart and open your blind eyes so you will see His magnificence…

    (an unsolicited friendly advice from me)

    xian

  19. Ferdinand says:

    dang!!! Sam!!! I think Bro Eli got you!!! all you care about is money… You are trying to make a point on the most sensible preacher but he shut you down!!! money, money , money… I think you should talk to benny hinn he’s got money. I am sure he will compensate you!

  20. a member says:

    Sammy boy,

    If you are trying to fool people with your books, well, not bro. Eli.
    He already made you revealed your inner intentions. Money, Money, Money.
    No wander people like you were already written in the Book you called “readable mess”. believe me you are there!
    Come to think of it, you are making money out of destroying the credibility of the Bible.
    Aren’t you ashamed of yourself, you are spoiling the very source of your income.
    You know sam, Christ did promise, and it is written in that Bible itself.

    Mat 24:35
    Heaven and earth shall pass away,but my words shall not pass away.

    So you better think again before you spoil that readable mess you say, or give your best shot!!!

    we want debate, not prepaid.

  21. quiel says:

    I already said this in my past comments here, THIS SAM JORDISON REALLY IS A DESPERATE WRITER WANNABE WHO IS IN DIRE NEED OF MONEY. IF HE REALLY IS COMPETENT IN HIS WRITING HE WOULD NOT EVEN DARE TO ASK FOR ANY REMUNERATION WHATSOEVER BECAUSE HE MUST BE OPEN WITHOUT RESTRICTION FOR OTHERS TO TEST HIS LITERARY COMPETENCE BECAUSE FOR ME, A TRUE LITERARY WRITER MUST NOT ONLY CAPTURE THE ATTENTION OF HIS READER BUT HE MUST ALSO BE ABLE TO SOLIDLY STAND FOR HIS CONVICTION AND PRINCIPLES IF THE LITERARY QUALITY OF HIS WORKS ARE CHALLENGED BY ANYBODY ON WHATEVER CONTEXT IT MAY BE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER HE WILL FINANCIALLY BENEFIT FROM IT. THAT FOR ME IS THE IDEAL CHARACTER OF A COMPETENT LITERARY WRITER.

  22. quiel says:

    I would like to personally invite all my brothers and sisters in christ and all the intelligent readers of this blog to read the comment that I have posted on one of the most popular and award-winning web blog in the Philippines today. please visit;

    http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2007/11/10/suicide-media-and-the-catholic-church/#comments

  23. bambi says:

    Sorry sam but you have to do better than that. If you are speaking of the truth why ask favors to spread the truth? Poor sam don’t think of us as a fool that you can manipulate, we firmly know where we stand and it is on a rock not a quicksand of yours.

    Sorry try again later sam if your mind is already on the right track, but when will it happen?

    Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

    Daniel 12:10

    I think never

    To GoD be the Glory!

  24. pathfinder says:

    asking for a fee eh!…

    compensation if he’s humiliated?…

    the nerve of this sam…tsk,tsk,tsk,…

    that proves one thing…

    he’s only in it for the “MONEY”…

    nothing more,nothing less…

    that’s the only thing that “MAKES SENSE” to him.

    “whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, those who mind earthly things.” Philippians 3:19

  25. Duke says:

    WHAT A POOR PERSON IS SAM JORDINSON IS. WOULD NOT DEFEND HIMSELF WITH EXCHANGE WITH MONEY. IT REALLY SHOWS OF HIS CREDIBILITY TOWARDS HIS INTENTION TO GAIN MONEY THAN TO EARN RESPECT FROM A FORMAL DEBATE… TO PROVE ONES’S POINT OF VIEW IN THE BIBLE… POOR THING…. PITY!

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY FOREVER AND EVER.. AMEN!

    DUKE

  26. scripture616 says:

    I can just imagine what Sam Jordison is thinking and feeling right now . . . .

    ” wow im in a religious scandal!!! jump for joy! ”

    He’s just using all of us to make a name for himself to be some psuedo- intellectual religious “so called expert”,
    and i think he’s kindda doing a great job, so i think we should just ignore this person once and for all and focus our energies to the blogs that Bro Eli is posting every other week.

    Besides, Bro Eli has the obligation to answer this guy once and for all, coz if not, he might “actually” think he’s the “genius” he’s trying to portray. Now that Bro Eli has answered officially this guy, i think it’s time cut this guys fame once and for all. JUST STOP VISITING HIS WEB SITE< DON’T BUY HIS BOOKS, AND NEVER MENTION HIS NAME AGAIN IN THIS BLOG!! Were just making this guy famous for all his stupid worth!

    Hes’ like this wacko woman Cathy Griffin, after making this blasphemous statement, she’s so thrilled to be in “quote and quote” a religious scandal!!!

    She’s even proud of what she did! Good grief, what has the world come to be!!?? These are the people mentioned in the Bible, “they are proud of what they should be ashamed of!” And honestly, she’s just an attention seeking sad lady with a award as “her god now”

    Check out this woman’s antics! what a joke!

    Let’s stop talking about this Sam Jordison guy, he’s just using this decent website to seek attention, like what Cathy Griffin is doing. Hhhmm . . .Maybe they’re related??
    LOL!!

  27. Jay2 says:

    Mr. Jordison knows he is going to lose, that is why he is asking for money, so to himself, he will just be a half-loser.

  28. jamc_725 says:

    ouch! right in the face! i wouldnt be surpised if he’d still have the guts to post here.. he’s one tough, thick-faced, horrible excuse for a person.

  29. joetton says:

    To ShAMe jordison,

    tsk! tsk! tsk! shame on you!!! your writing books to make money and now even on debate to bro. Eli.
    Your garbage books against God’s Word and a debate against God’s messenger to make money? OH c’mon men?! You do not believe in God?, but why you worship your god, money? he he he doing all evil things only to have money, your god. You can’t see the truth because you’re blinded by other gods one of that is money. Your making money to buy a passport to hell!

    Thanks be to God for bro. Eli, who enlighten us from the darkness made by false prophets ang preachers and writers like jordison!!!
    To God be the Glory!!!

  30. jimme says:

    To Sam,

    Your dealing with a preacher sent by God, I think you should innovate atleast your strategy” devil’s scheme.” HAHAHA.

  31. ESPANA says:

    Is Sam Jordison a natural born beast? sqeezing and getting something in return for his actions. Laborer for money.

    I conclude that Sam Jordison god is his BELLY.

    It just a waste of time dealing with this man.

  32. Julius says:

    Sam Jordison is so cheap……….

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  35. jackie says:

    GOSH!!! SHAME ON YOU, SAM JORDISON!!!! You are obviously a preacher who are greedy especially in money… I suggest you must have a pet, a a a a a … DOG?

  36. Sam Jordison says:

    Hi chaps!

    Another super article. I really wasn’t going to ask for all that much either. Do drop me a line if you change your minds.

  37. Alfredo says:

    Dear Friends,

    I believe there is stilll hope for Sam Jordison realizing and accepting humiliation of his defeat because of his wrong deeds for a fee in a debate with Brother Eli than those hopeless false greedy pastors and ministers who constantly take advantage of their misled flocks that will never do the same like that of Jordison.

    Mr. Sam Jordison there is still hope for you if the book you have wrote and what you have said and done though considered blasphemy were done in ignorance. How about renewing yourself, ask for God’s forgiveness and join the Church of God? God is so merciful who knows if out of His lovingkindness forgive you due to your ignorance? Only a Messenger of God like Bro. Eli Soriano can determine that. Cany you contact him again and appeal for forgiveness. Bro Eli can surely help you if there is a way. Please read John 3:16

  38. Ben Myers says:

    Sam Jordison is a very nice man, who feels no need to quote The Bible verbatim to prove a point.

    And, no, I have never met him.

    If someone here can quote from the Torah, the Bible and The Koran I might be impressed, but until there’s not much in the way of original thought in the above comments; the usual rehashed hogwash.

    There’s a lot of ‘un-Christian’ attitudes being expressed here. Hateful, some might say. The days of fire and brimstone are long gone my friends.

    Also, you might want to lay off on the over-use of ‘!!!!!’s. It’s the literary equivalent of laughing at your own jokes in public.

    A basic grasp of English might strengthen certain arguments here too.

    Yours humbly genuflecting -
    Ben Myers

  39. Ben Myers says:

    >> “This is about your garbage you are injecting onto people!”

    Can you inject garbage? Imagine the size of the needle you’d need….

  40. Joshua A says:

    With all the respect that is due to the great teacher Bro Eli, whose learning passes all normal understanding and with gratitude for the many things I have larend form him! May I humbly suggest, Bro Eli, that you write an analysis of the books written by this ‘chap’ Sam Jordison… Tell us whether you think they are as good as the most holy and precious and learned and wise and beautiful and GLORIOUS Bible.

    I’m sure it would be an interesting exercise.

    For did not Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

    Let’s see if this Jordison is able to talk about any kind of book at all, or if his works are, in fact, to use one of his favorite words, complete and utter cr*p.

    (I humbly beg to suggest, Bro Eli, that you might think they are indeed cr*p!!!!!)

  41. Jhorel says:

    This man just got caught with his foot in his mouth. It can readily be seen that he cannot be taken seriously from just a run-over of his posts.

    i.e. Trying to communicate unto Sam Jordison is most likely a waste of time.

  42. TITO PAZ says:

    hey brothers and sisters, cant you see that this guy is just looking for a free publicity and an instant fame from us? Acts of stupidity and stupid people are tolerable but not those who are proud of it and of being one. This person does not deserve a bit of our attention. let us focus on something who deserves our attention.

    If there is anybody who wants a debate with Bro. Eli, the following could be the reason:
    1) He does know Bro. Eli very well or have not encountered Bro. Eli before
    2) He is not in the proper frame of mind. Anybody who is sane enough and knows Bro. Eli will NNNEVER ever challenge Bro. Eli to a debate. You may ask Mr. Manalo of INCNMD. LOL! (at least Mr. Manalo has a way of proving he is still sane by not facing Bro. Eli) :) Only, he has also proven at the same time that he is just one of those money-hungry fools who call themselves a messenger of God.
    3) And for the first time in my life that i have encountered someone who wants to debate Bro. Eli because of money! i now have found another word for stupid :) only longer, Samjordison :) LOL!
    anybody who knows this guy in person, please give him something to eat and a cold drink for me:) people are becoming more desperate nowadays. forgive me for being brutally frank but i pray to God that you repent my friend. we still have time and chance to, only not much.

    im just so glad, God permitted me to meet Bro Eli and Bro Daniel and become one of the many people that they serve and look after to.
    Thanks be to God! To God be the Glory! Praised be His Son Jesus Christ!

  43. bradd pit says:

    what now sam? need a budget?

  44. Tony O'Neill says:

    Sam Jordison will kick gods ass.

    GOD IS DEAD!

  45. Hey Mr. Sam Jordison Can I Have a copy of your Books? But I will not pay for it, for your books I know is not worthy of even a single centavo, I’ll just use the pages for replacement for my tissue on the bathroom. Hahahaha!

    Your just one of those guys mentioned in the II TIM. 3:1-2. “MONEY LOVERS”.

    Thanks be to God Bro. Eli is not that kind of a preacher not like Erano Manalo of Iglesia ni Cristo and other pastors who make money out of religion.

  46. Edwin Anay says:

    Hey Mr. Sam Jordison Can I Have a copy of your Books? But I will not pay for it, for your books I know is not worthy of even a single centavo, I’ll just use the pages for replacement for my tissue on the bathroom. Hahahaha!

    Your just one of those guys mentioned in the II TIM. 3:1-2. “MONEY LOVERS”.

    Thanks be to God Bro. Eli is not that kind of a preacher not like Erano Manalo of Iglesia ni cristong tao (Church of Christ of Manalo) and other pastors who make money out of religion.

  47. Fernan says:

    That’s the difference of a preacher of God compared to the misleaders (is there such a term?) hehehe.

  48. quiel says:

    I am just INSTANTLY IRRITATED by a post of a certain atheist named Tony O’Neill which said and i quote, “Sam Jordison will kick gods ass.

    GOD IS DEAD!”

    IF GOD IS DEAD, SO ARE YOU!! IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!

  49. jackie says:

    To TONY O’NEIL:

    Well, at least Sam Jordison is just a greedy but i think you are worse than him saying that God is Dead,,, I pray to God that He will let you feel that He is A God of living…YOU MUST FEAR GOD!!! THE REASON WHY YOU EXISTS AND YOU STILL HAVE YOUR BREATH IS THAT SAME GOD YOU ARE BLASPHEMING…But you are also one of the evidence of God’s love and mercy because though you are idiot, fool and evil He still have a long suffering for you. He still give you food to eat, still rises a sun on you, give air for you to breathe..You know what maybe that’s the reason of his greatness because if I were Him that moment you have think that in your empty and useless brain I have taken your life for you that you will know That God is Alive…but again that why He told us that His thinking is not our thinking..THAT’S why He Is Our God! WILL YOU PLEASE USE YOUR USELESS BRAIN BEFORE YOU WRITE OR SAY ANYTHING AGAINST OUR GOD!!! FOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL……..MORE SHAME ON YOU!!!!! TONY O’NEIL.. IIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIOOOOOOTTTTT…………………………………

  50. jackie says:

    DAMN YOU TONY O’NEIL!!!!!!!!….NEVER DO OR SAY THAT AGAIN!!!!!! DO YOUR DECAYING MIND UNDERSTAND THAT!

  51. jackie says:

    Sam Jordison is a DOG, Tony O’Neil is a FOOL, hey people is there any superlative of a fool if there is, that is for Tony O’Neil…this idiot one who commented that God is dead…..TANGA ITONG TAONG ITO…TANGANG TANGA…

  52. jackie says:

    Ben Myers,

    What? Sam Jordison is a very nice person to you…I pity you. Is being greedy is nice to you…open your eyes Mister…and for our side we express what we really feel inside, we hate those who are spreading false teachings and we are not hypocrite LIKE YOU!!!!!!

  53. TITO PAZ says:

    To Ben Myers:

    Your idea of garbage is very limited. Of course garbage can be injected into a person. And most of the time, needles are not needed. Do you happen to know NET25? Tons of garbages are being injected into the people who are fool enough to believe them. You yourself have been injected with some garbages in your mind. Calling Sam Jordison a nice man? That’s garbage. Proverbs 24:24. No wonder, there’s someone out there injecting garbages into the minds of the people. IICorinthians4:4.

    Get cleaned up my friend. Have an open mind and Bro Eli is always ready to serve us. And you will see how beautiful Christian life is. Daniel 12:10.

  54. Richard Webster says:

    Oooohhhh!!!! Great idea Joshua A. Let Bro Eli read these books of SinAM JORDieSON! Then we will see who is the brightest. I’d love to read what our Bro has to say about these books. Super LOL!!!!!!!

  55. DOMINIK says:

    Definitely… the TRUTH OUT… the real DEVILISH THE INTENTION OF THIS SAM JORDISON… TO ACCUMULATE WEALTH IN GUISE USING THE NAME OF GOD. HOW POOR TO THE POOREST THIS ANIMAL IS.

    How I picture SAM as the SNAKE in Genesis hanging on a tree luring the WOMAN using also the name of God for his personal DECEIVING INTENTION.

    POOR POOR POOR, SAM!

  56. pathfinder says:

    to tony Oneill,

    according to the “Atheists”,God does not “EXIST”.

    now how can Sam “kick” something that according to your belief,don’t “EXIST”???…

    it’s like seeing a “CRAZED MAN” punching and kicking something that according to him,was NON EXISTENT?!!!…

    how can Sam “kill” something (that according to your belief),DID NOT EXIST?!!!…

    How can YOU,or Sam,or your fellow “Atheist” kick or kill something that you don’t even have the “slightest idea” what looks like?!!!…

    well “ONE THING’S” clear…

    when you see someone “CURSING”,”PUNCHING”,”KICKING” and trying to “KILL” something “NON EXISTENT”…

    it’s an “ATHEIST”.

    LoL!!!…peace.

  57. pathfinder says:

    to ben myers,

    you said…
    Can you “inject” garbage? Imagine the size of the “needle” you’d need….

    ans:
    it doesn’t take a “needle” to “inject” garbage to your system.

    just by swallowing “Sam’s Literary Sins”,your “whole system” will be “filled”(“infected” would be more acceptable) by his “polluted” and “corrupted” thoughts.

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Matthew 23:15

    “believing” his “Illeterate”ures will make you one of his “followers”…

    once you became “HIS”,he’ll sell you “more and more” of his “CRAP” not for your interest,but for his “personal” gain.

    because that’s the only “ONE” he listens to…”MONEY”.

  58. warpath1975 says:

    to tony oneill,

    How can an “atheist” kick something that to them,was “non existent”?

    it’s like seeing a “dog” barking at something “non existent”.

    all you hear was loud,annoying,nonsense noise…

  59. alanrakaf says:

    to SAM JORDISON,

    So, you can’t support yourself in what your trying to prove huh!!!! That simply shows your foolishness! SHAME ON YOU SAM !

  60. joetton says:

    ben myers,

    you know you’re pretending to be nice person and good but you’re also a hypocrite garbage! because you like the rotten style of jordison who loves money and doing evil things to have it, that’s why you’ve said he’s a nice person?!

    open your mind and let God enlighten you through bro. Eli’s teachings.

    we really hate evil doers hypocrite.

    Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.
    The Romans 12:9
    King James Version

    abhor (ab hor, eb-) -horred, -horring
    vt.
    to shrink from in disgust, hatred, etc.; detest
    SYN. hate
    abhorrer
    n.

  61. Tony O'Neill says:

    Dear Pathfinder (and indeed jackie)

    when i say GOD IS DEAD i do not literally mean that he is dead, i mean that the IDEA of god is dead, as god is just a construct, a series of rationalisations and lies to hide our own fears or own dissapoinment that we are infact just another animal, just another bunch of DNA floating on a rock which revolves around a dying star.

    in saying god is dead, i have infact MURDERED god, because if god is an idea, to debunk the idea is to kill the idea. the duty of the poet is to come before christ and murder love. or as another poet said, “in the begninng there was the word and the word was VOID” do you see what im saying?

  62. lbmr- arvin says:

    evil deeds won’t last forever! love is forever and ever!

    there are temporal realities in this world that exist today. but we don’t know that these won’t last.

    so sam jordison, time is running! you know what you’re doing, don’t you? your mind is full of evil things. remember this verse james 4:17

    nothing defeats the realities of GOD.
    bro. eli is the only sensible preacher in our time.

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY!

  63. pathfider says:

    To tony Oneill,

    Now I know where you got your “IDEA” that “God is Dead”…

    as you have admitted…

    -you are infact,just another “animal”…

    -an “animal” who’s in a series of rationalisations and lies to hide his fears or own dissapointments in life due to heroin addiction,quicky marriages and crack abuse (as you have said on your “BIO”),constructed an “IDEA” in his ailing mind that “God is Dead”…

    -an “animal” who’s hopelessness,failures and frustrations (working on a variety of “odd” jobs ) has led him to “MURDER GOD” in his “IMAGINATION”,hoping to justify and satisfy his “dissapointments” in life …

    God is not an ‘IDEA”,He’s the “REALITY”…
    “Murdering” him in your “imagination” would not change him a bit.
    The fact is,that’s all you,and your fellow ATHEIST can do…

    I can think that you’re just an “IDEA”,and I can MURDER you on my head,again and again…
    but that doesn’t change your being.The reality remains…you are what you are.

    Believing in God would not make him any Greater…
    Despising him would not make him any lesser…
    God can exist without us.

    I’m a “human being”,that’s why I think like a human being…
    that’s the reason why I believe in God.

    You claim that your an “Animal”,that’s why you think like an “Animal”…
    that’s the reason why you don’t believe in God.

    We are not the same “breed”…

    Now,do you “see” what I’m saying?…

  64. jackie says:

    when i say GOD IS DEAD i do not literally mean that he is dead, i mean that the IDEA of god is dead, as god is just a construct, a series of rationalisations and lies to hide our own fears or own dissapoinment that we are infact just another animal, just another bunch of DNA floating on a rock which revolves around a dying star.SAYS TONY O’NEIL….

    ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha! ha!you know what you and Iglesia ni Manalo’ ministers have in common when it comes to reasoning…ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha……ILLOGICAL.

  65. lito says:

    to sam, ben, and the rest of the idiot gang
    hey sam( the money maker ) do you think you can fool us by asking for a fee! it is better to give you a big stone and tie it to your neck and jump at the ocean. to the rest of your gang, you concluded that we are also an animal. you are right on your part but not to us people who believe in God. stop acting like an animal…….pweeeeeeh!

  66. joetton says:

    To tony o’neILL mind,

    You’re a natural brute beast!!! but not from apes.

    But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
    II Peter 2:12

    Tony o’neILL, ShAMe jordison, bantot myers tsk! tsk! tsk! writing shit books to make money?!

    For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.
    I Timothy 6:10
    King James Version

    to all atheist!

    Read this article of bro. Eli…

    http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/the-literary-quality-and-wisdom-of-gods-word-in-the-bible-that-sam-beast-will-never-appreciate/
    http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/05/16/a-biblically-smart-answer-to-an-impertinently-stupid-question-part-1/
    http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/11/12/the-truth-about-the-debate-against-sam-jordison/
    http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/17/the-rest-of-sam-jordisons-bizarre-sadism/

    where are now sam? Is tony’s next? he he he….
    You don’t have balls to face bro. Eli in one-on-one debate
    Luke 21:
    [13] And it shall turn to you for a testimony.
    [14] Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer:
    [15] For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.

  67. Rhina says:

    WE PRAISE YOU AND GLORIFY YOU LORD GOD FOREVER AND EVER.May the PEACE AND BLESSINGS of the LORD be unto you Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, ministers, workers, brethrens in the CHURCH OF GOD, and fellow bloggers, including jordison and myers and their likes. As I had suspected ealier, this jordison and his company are only out to create doubts, to contradict GOD’s TRUTH, and earn money at the same time. Of course we will not be bothered nor distracted by these arrogant and self-proclaimed ‘literary and bible literate’ atheist. We have no other choice but to have pity on them. Who knows, a miracle might happen and the evil webs and garbage in their hearts and mind may one day disappear while trying to temp us in this blog. Lets not lost hope that jordison and his kind will one day realize that there are more people better than them who are now with us in the CHURCH OF GOD. Thank you Bro Eli for your continuous fight and resolve to spread the TRUTH OF GOD inspite of the non-stop conspiracy and persecutions to silence you at all cost. These leaders of false churches who are employing people like jordison, myers will never succeed to kill and or harm you, and Bro Daniel. They know that you are the most vocal, straightforward, biblical, unstoppable, and most sensible Preacher of GOD, leading the CHURCH OF GOD, prophesied in JEREMIAH 30:19-…AND I WILL MULTIFLY THEM, AND THEY SHALL NOT BE FEW, I WILL ALSO GLORIFY THEM, AND THEY SHALL NOT BE SMALL. The very fast growth of the CHURCH OF GOD in so short a time in the Philippines and in many parts of the world is a proof of the prophesy. Even our LORD JESUS CHRIST was tempted by the devil, so we must not get mad if there are wicked people who will not stop bothering and distracting us even in this blog. After all, the TRUTH being preached by Bro Eli and Bro Daniel will eventually prevail.

  68. pathfinder says:

    to tony Oneill,

    It’s kind of funny though…

    “ATHEIST’S” laughing at the “IDEA” of a “Talking Snake”…

    now here I am making a “conversation” with a self proclaimed “ANIMAL”.

    Hmmmm…

    (an “ANIMAL” who laughs at the “IDEA” of a “Talking Snake”…)

    now that’s something to “laugh” about…

    don’t you agree?…

    a friendly advice;

    stop “abusing” yourself…
    it kill’s your “braincells”,and prevents you from thinking straight.

  69. js says:

    Amen to that sis. Rhina!

  70. jayrcuteestecruz says:

    i can understand if sam was asking for money for his transfortation, but a fee for the debate? that’s insane… it will sound like it was all scripted if brother eli will pay him just to have debate… and isnt he already gaining money to his what he is so called “books”

  71. pinklady says:

    To Sam Jordison (reply #36)

    So, you admit you’ve asked for money from Bro. Eli but ‘really wasn’t going to ask for all that much’. Drop your hope for we won’t drop you a line and we wouldn’t change our minds to conform with your money-making tactics. We’ll arrange for a debate and we, with all our might, will finance the expenses solely for that debate (not for you), no matter how much will it cost. We are a poor congregation and we don’t profit from spreading God’s words like all other congregations pretending to be Christians do, but we’ll make a way to provide for the expenses of the debate, under the condition that it must be aired worldwide.

    I believe Bro. Eli conforms with what I’ve said, this has been his conviction all through his life. He doesn’t fear any discussion and he won’t run away from any debate to defend our faith to ANYBODY, including YOU. He risks his life in spreading the truth and almost all people in the Philippines can witness to this.

  72. pinklady says:

    To Ben Myers (reply #38),

    How pathetic that you’ve believed Sam Jordison is a ‘nice’ man. Is despising and disproving the existence of God for you a ‘nice’ act? If we are to believe your definition of the word ‘nice’, then who else is evil?

    The belief and fear of God encourages people to turn away from evil deeds and directs them in doing what is good and what is right. What Sam Jordison is doing is that he disproves the existence of the God that we revere by promoting his silly ideas to people and publishing his book made of garbage, and for that we are angry, more so when he insults our God, so overuse the “!!!!” in our statements here.

    And YES, we might not have ‘a basic grasp of English’ to stress out our points clearly, but we have been thoroughly taught by the Bible through the teachings of Bro. Eli how to think logically, and we believe it’s logical enough to believe in the existence of God and not to believe your self-generated ideas.

    Lastly, don’t say you humbly genuflect on us, we cannot accept that. It is against our belief that we be genuflected (kneeled) by any human being like us. Humbly genuflect on God; you have greatly sinned on Him. Besides, you don’t really humble yourself on us, instead, you have deeply insulted us and our God.

  73. pinklady says:

    To Tony O’Neill (reply #44)

    If you believe that the idea of the existence of God is dead by saying that GOD IS DEAD, then how can Sam Jordison kick God’s ass like what you’ve said? If we are to follow your argument that he doesn’t exist, therefore, he also doesn’t have ass.

    Can you realize how illogical you are? Arrange your thought before posting them here; its embarrassing.

  74. hey sam,

    you are full of sorry excuses, just admit that you are a coward.publishing many best selling books doesnt mean your smart.in the Bible’s point of view,your stupid, period.

    to ben myers,

    you are so full of affection for sam jordison, are you queer?

  75. quiel says:

    I AM PERSONALLY CHALLENGING YOU TONY O’NEILL ON A FORMAL DISCUSSION OR DEBATE IN THIS BLOG RIGHT HERE AND NOW!!! I WILL PROVE THAT GOD, BOTH HIS BEING AND IDEA EXISTS AND YOU WILL PROVE OTHERWISE! BE A MAN AND STAND FOR YOUR CONVICTIONS AND PRINCIPLES! PROVE THAT YOU ARE REALLY NOT AN IDIOT AND I WILL PROVE ON WORLD WIDE WEB THAT YOU ARE REALLY A BIG KNOW-NOTHING IDIOT! DEBATE WITH ME!!!

  76. Tony O'Neill says:

    hey quiel

    well, one of my other posts mysteriously didnt appear on this site ( a reference to people calling sam jordison ‘money grabbing’ when we all know that the church is the biggest money grabbing racket there is) which leads me to believe that i would never get a free reign to speak on here.

    however, my goodness, if you think that you can somehow prove the existence of god (which nobody has been able to do up to this point in history) then, wow, be my guest. i’m quivering with anticipation.

    pinklady
    “If you believe that the idea of the existence of God is dead by saying that GOD IS DEAD, then how can Sam Jordison kick God’s ass like what you’ve said? If we are to follow your argument that he doesn’t exist, therefore, he also doesn’t have ass.”

    well, yes, it was a joke. of course god doesnt have an ass.

    all of this shouting and yelling. funny isn’t it? if you were all a bit more secure in your belief in this whole fairy tale, it probably wouldn’t bother you so much when people say things like this. oh well.

  77. quiel says:

    To Tony O’Neill,

    I am just so glad that you have already accepted my challenge for you to engage in a formal debate with me because you said and I quote you;” however, my goodness, if you think that you can somehow prove the existence of god (which nobody has been able to do up to this point in history) then, wow, be my guest. I’M QUIVERING WITH ANTICIPATION.”
    LET US NOW QUICKLY QUENCH YOUR ANTICIPATION AND SHOW HOW YOUR IGNORANT HISTORY WILL PROVE YOUR IDIOCY.
    I will start our debate because I initiated it and at this point I just want to lay down point by point the conceptual impertinence of atheism which I believe is a VERY GRAVE insult to fine human intellect.
    Atheism principally is BOXED and STRICTLY CONFINED to the following conceptually superficial and highly faulty principles and I enumerate;
    1. STRICT MATERIALISM
    2. EVOLUTION
    These two principal concepts are so VITALLY IMPORTANT to atheists that without these concepts, atheism would not even exist for atheists because atheists have a VERY TWISTED and PERVERTED concept regarding what they consider to categorically exist.
    Let us now critically analyze these concepts to determine its logical UNsoundness.
    Strict materialism is a form of physicalism which holds that the only thing that can be truly proven to exist is matter. fundamentally, all things are composed of material and all phenomena are the result of material interactions; therefore, matter is the ONLY substance. However, ATHEISTS DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT CAUSES MATTER TO EXIST. They will just offer THEORIES full of mathematical improbabilities and will impulsively claim them as SCIENTIFIC FACTS when in fact, THEY ARE PRACTICALLY PURE GUESSWORKS THAT CAN NEVER HOLD LOGICAL WATER. One very good example is the BIG BANG THEORY which states that the universe came from a very big primordial explosion. HOWEVER, ATHEISTS DON’T REALLY KNOW WHAT CAUSES SUCH EXPLOSION! ATHEISTS WILL NOT EVEN DARE TO ANSWER WHY IS THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR MATTER TO EXIST! Now Mr. Tony O’Neill, would you now offer an answer to these basic BUT VALID logical questions? I really doubt it very much if you will even budge.
    Now that I have brought up the issue about MATTER let us attempt to answer WHAT REALLY CAUSES MATTER TO EXIST?
    For a very long time now scientists claim the atom is the smallest particle of matter BUT RECENT SCIENTIFIC DISCOVERIES PROVED THEM ALL WRONG along the way. One very good example is the discovery of the NEUTRINO, elementary particles that travel close to the speed of light, lack an electric charge, are able to pass through ordinary matter almost undisturbed and are thus EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DETECT. NEUTRINOS HAVE A MINUSCULE, BUT NON-ZERO, MASS TOO SMALL TO BE MEASURED AS OF 2007. They are usually denoted by the Greek letter ν (nu). Neutrinos are created as a result of certain types of radioactive decay or nuclear reactions such as those that take place in the sun, in nuclear reactors, or when cosmic rays hit atoms. There are three types, or “flavors”, of neutrinos: electron neutrinos, muon neutrinos and tau neutrinos; each type also has an ANTIMATTER partner, called an antineutrino. Electron neutrinos are generated whenever protons change into neutrons, while electron antineutrinos are generated whenever neutrons change into protons. These are the two forms of beta decay. Interactions involving neutrinos are generally mediated by the weak nuclear force. Most neutrinos passing through the Earth emanate from the sun, and more than 50 trillion solar electron neutrinos pass through the human body every second. SO BASICALLY THE MATTER THAT ATHEISTS USE AS A SOLE BASIS FOR EXISTENCE IS UP UNTIL NOW AN UNRESOLVED SCIENTIFIC PROBLEM. WHAT REALLY IS THE SMALLEST PARTICLE OF MATTER MR. TONY O’NEILL? DO YOU KNOW? WHY DO MATTER EXIST ACCORDING TO ATHEISTS?
    After I have solidly proven the conceptual faultiness of the principle of strict materialism, let us now critically analyze the THEORY OF EVOLUTION.
    According to the theory of evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe — just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came to life. However, SCIENTISTS DON’T REALLY KNOW HOW LIFE CAME TO BE. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most biology text books, says that THE ORIGIN OF LIFE IS STILL UNKNOWN. The idea that dead material can come to life all by itself is NOT CONSISTENT with scientific observation. The leading mathematicians in the century met with some evolutionary biologists and confronted them with the fact that according to mathematical statistics, THE PROBABILITIES OF A CELL OR A PROTEIN MOLECULE COMING INTO EXISTENCE WERE NIL. They even constructed a model of a large computer and tried to figure out the possibilities of a cell ever happening. THE RESULT WAS ZERO POSSIBILITY! Under normal circumstances, creatures give birth to the same kind of creatures. It is established scientific fact that like begets like. On rare instances, the DNA in an embryo is damaged, resulting in a mutant child that differs in some respect from its parent. Although a few mutations have been scientifically observed that are beneficial, most mutations produce inferior offspring. For the theory of evolution to be true, there must be a FANTASTIC number of creative mutations that produce new kinds of offspring which are better suited for survival, and therefore are favored by natural selection. Darwinists claim that the reptile-to-mammal evolution is well documented. But for reptiles to evolve into mammals at least some of these transformations must have happened:
    1. Scales had to have mutated into hair.
    2. Breasts had to have evolved from nothing.
    3. Externally laid eggs had to evolve into soft-shelled eggs that were nourished by an umbilical cord and placenta in a womb.
    ALL OF THESE WERE NEVER DOCUMENTED THROUGH FOSSIL EVIDENCES
    It has NEVER been observed in any laboratory that mutations can cause one species to turn into another. Despite this, evolutionists believe that given enough time, some animals will eventually evolve into other creatures. Evolutionists claim that although we have not actually observed these things happening, that does not mean that they are impossible. They say it simply means they are EXTREMELY IMPROBABLE. Evolutionists think the world has been around long enough for all these HIGHLY IMPROBABLE things to happen. Scientific evidence casts serious doubts on the theory of evolution, for example:
    1. The Fossil Record – the fossil record has been AGAINST the darwinian theory from the very beginning. It’s true that different kinds of organisms lived on the earth at different times. But what is NOT SEEN in the fossil record is the steady progressive change of one kind of thing into something completely different. Instead, if something new shows up in the rocks, it shows up all at once and fully formed, and then it stays the same. If evolution means the steady progressive change of one kind of thing into something completely different, then THE FOSSIL RECORD CONTRADICTS EVOLUTION. Given the absence of transitional forms in the fossil record, evolutionists quietly acknowledge this is still a “research issue”. There is virtually nothing in the fossil record that can be used as evidence of a transitional life form when apparent examples of useful mutations are examined thoroughly, it becomes clear that no transitional creatures exist anywhere in the fossil record. John Bonner, a biologist at Princeton, writes that traditional textbook discussions of ancestral descent are “a festering mass of unsupported assertions.” In recent years, paleontologists have retreated from simple connect-the-dot scenarios linking earlier and later species. Instead of ladders, they now talk of bushes. What we see in the fossils, according to this view, are only the twigs, the final end-products of evolution, while the key transitional forms which would give a clue about the origin of major animal groups REMAIN COMPLETELY HIDDEN. The blank spots on evolutionary “tree” charts occur at just the points where, according to Darwin’s theory, the crucial changes had to take place. The direct ancestors of all the major orders: primates, carnivores, and so forth are completely missing. There is no fossil evidence for a “grandparent” of the monkey, for example. “Modern gorillas, orangutans, and chimpanzees spring out of nowhere,” writes paleontologist Donald Johansen. “They are here today; they have no yesterday.” The same is true of giraffes, elephants, wolves, and all species; they all simply burst upon the scene de novo [anew], as it were. So many questions arise in the study of fossils (paleontology) that even many evolutionary paleontologists put little stock in the fossil record. Basing one’s belief in evolution on the shaky ground of paleontology can scarcely be considered scientific. The fossil record is often so sparse that . . . there are numerous cases where groups survived for tens of millions of years WITHOUT LEAVING A SINGLE FOSSIL. A criticism of the evolutionary idea was, and is, the lack of the hypothesized intermediates between one species and another. If land animals truly came from sea creatures, one would expect to find plenty of evidence of this, such as fossils of fish with their fins turning into legs. Darwin wrote in his Origin of Species that “innumerable transitional forms must have existed.” The predicted large numbers of fossil intermediate forms were never found.
    2. Living Fossils – Since 1822 thousands of previously unknown animals have been found, many of which are known as “living fossils” – animals that once known only by its fossilized bones and presumed to have been extinct for millions of years and used as “proof” of evolution. But then, TO THE EMBARRASSMENT OF SCIENTISTS, THESE ANIMALS WERE LATER FOUND TO BE ALIVE IN REMOTE PARTS OF THE WORLD. Charles Darwin, himself, coined this term. In the Origin of Species he called lungfish and other species whose form remained unchanged since its inception “anomalous forms” that “may almost be called living fossils.” LIVING FOSSILS ARE LIVING PROOF OF THE ACCURACY WITH WHICH PLANTS AND ANIMALS REPRODUCE THEMSELVES AND THE FACT THAT MANY ARE NOT CHANGING AT ALL. The Okapi was once thought to have been extinct until they were found still living. These animals were once used as evidence that the horse had evolved. The Australian and African lungfish are . . . living fossils. They all look “primitive” and have lobed fins. Obviously lungfish can’t be our ancestors because they have remain unchanged, again for 400 million years. Another animal, the horseshoe crab, would be a great candidate for our ancestor. It looks “primitive” and leaves the ocean to spawn on dry land. However, it, too, is a living fossil, appearing about 425 million years ago in the Silurian period, and remaining unchanged. Similarly, gars, sturgeons, bowfins, and paddlefish all look “primitive” but are living fossils. Yet they are doing nicely in today’s environment. IN 1994. in Wollemi National Park (in the Blue Mountains) the New South Wales National Parks and Wildlife Services found a pine tree once thought to be extinct. They are close relations to plants only found in the so called “Jurassic and Cretaceous” periods. (65-200 million years ago). There are very few of these trees left in an isolated area. The following aquatic animals alive today are also examples of creatures that have not evolved since their fossil ancestors:- lobsters, crayfish and rays (fossils found in Jurassic rock), lampshells, mussels oysters, thumb nail shells (fossils found in Carboniferous rock), sharks (fossilized teeth found in Devonian rock), mackerel, perch, herring, jelly fish, fogs, the nautilus etc. Of the 12,000 fossilized insects the majority are similar to living types of insect found today. The fossils of bees, ants, cicadas, beetles, termites or cockroaches, and other insects are always practically identical with (though often larger than) their SUPPOSED modern descendants. The same applies to the arachnids and myriapods. Other famous living fossils include the tuatara (supposedly extinct since the Cretaceous Period until found still living in New Zealand), the Lepidocaris crustacean (only found as fossils in Devonian rocks), the lingula brachiopod (”extinct” since the Ordovician), and even the trilobite (chief index fossil of the even more ancient Cambrian Period). If all of these species have not evolved in 50 million, 100 million or even 200 million years, then WHY SHOULD WE BELIEVE THAT THEY (OR ANYTHING) HAVE EVOLVED? Some changes due to speciation have occurred, but NOT THE LARGE SCALE CHANGES THAT EVOLUTION SUPPOSES. The list goes on; example after example of no change from one type of animal to another in the fossil record. Darwin tried to cover over this embarrassment by saying the fossil record is incomplete, but it wasn’t then and it’s not now. What we know about living fossils, then and now, is a representative sample of the fossil record.
    3. The Cambrian “Explosion” – Nearly all animal phyla made their first appearance in the fossil record at essentially the same time, an interval of some 5 million years (about 525 to 530 million years ago) called the “Cambrian Explosion.” Scientists have found that these early fossils exhibit more anatomical body designs than exist today, and that early animals, the trilobites, had eyes as fully developed as their counterparts today. Many of the Cambrian fauna, still survive today, all looking much like they did over 500 million years ago. The prominent British evolutionist, Richard Dawkins, comments, “… [W]e find many of them already in an advanced state of evolution, the very first time they appear. It is as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history.” Two places in the world that have an abundance of early (Cambrian) fossils; the Burgess Shale in the Canadian Rockies and the Chengjiang site in China. In Stephen J. Gould’s popular book, Wonderful Life, he points out that the Burgess Shale Cambrian fossils include “a range of disparity in anatomical design never again equaled, and not matched today by all the creatures in the world’s oceans.” Further, these fossils contain some twenty to thirty kinds of arthropods that cannot be placed in any modern group. The modern arthropods, consisting of almost a million species, can all fit into four major groups. But “one quarry in British Columbia, representing the first explosion of multicellular life, reveals more than twenty additional arthropod designs.” TODAY THERE ARE ABOUT 38 PHYLA IN EXISTENCE, BUT THE CANADIAN, CHINESE AND OTHER CAMBRIAN SITES REVEAL OVER FIFTY PHYLA. There has been a DECREASE IN DIVERSITY (probably due to global catastrophes). This is the REVERSE of what evolutionary theory predicts. Besides diversity, the Burgess Shale shows exquisite detail, right down to “the last filament of a trilobite’s gill,” or the last meal in a worm’s gut. The Chengjiang site has even greater detail, and is earlier. According to Paul Chien, the chairman of the biology department at the University of San Francisco, said the preservation is such that internal organs, nerves, and even the water ducts of jellyfish are observable. Researchers found striking similarities between the compound eyes of the Cambrian trilobites and those of modern insects. According to Riccardo Levi-Setti, “Trilobites could see in their immediate environment with amazingly sophisticated optical devices in the form of large composite eyes. … The number of individual optical elements in the compound eye could vary from approximately one hundred to more than fifteen thousand in a single eye, a range not very different from that found in modern insects.” The conclusion is that the eye, a complex visual system, was fully formed and functional extremely early in the fossil record. OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS NOT PREDICTED BY EVOLUTIONARY THEORY. Until recently, the phylum of vertebrates had been considered a later arrival in evolutionary history. BUT NOT NOW! Even the vertebrate phylum now extends into the Cambrian period, especially with the recent discovery of two fossil fish in China. The two new fossils . . . from Chengjiang are the most convincing Early Cambrian vertebrates ever found. The insects and other land invertebrates are also a very important group, and these practically all seem to be living fossils. These complex animals were present at the beginning of multicellular life and did not appear later as is predicted by evolutionary theory. EVOLUTION DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE ABRUPT APPEARANCE OF COMPLEX FORMS OF LIFE EARLY IN THE FOSSIL RECORD OR THESE FOSSILS’ UNEQUALED DIVERSITY. The implication of the Cambrian explosion of diverse, fully functional, and multicellular life is that evolutionary theory is FALSIFIED. Life did not start out simple and evolve into more complex and diverse animals; IT WAS COMPLEX AND DIVERSE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING. This CONTRADICTION between the fossil data and the predictions of evolutionary theory FALSIFIES the theory. Even George Gaylord Simpson, Harvard high priest of evolution had to admit, “In spite of the examples, it remains true (as every paleontologist knows) that most new species, genera and families appear in the record suddenly, and are not led up to by known, gradual, completely continuous transitional sequences.”
    4. The so called “Missing Links” – The following are some of a few SCIENTIFICALLY OBSERVABLE and WELL DOCUMENTED examples:
    NEANDERTHAL MAN: When this prehistoric man was first discovered, ONLY PART OF AN ARM WAS RECOVERED. Yet, the scientific community FABRICATED an entire ancient society around an arm bone. Scientists have since found quite a few Neanderthals and after careful study have concluded that THESE ANCESTORS WERE REGULAR HUMANS WITH BONE DISEASE, PROBABLY RICKETS.
    PILTDOWN MAN: For more than 50 years we were led to believe that this ancient creature was another supposed ancestor of modern man. Two scientists eventually took a closer look and found out that Piltdown man was a FRAUD. This INVENTED creature was a composite of the jawbone of an orangutan and the skull of a small child. The original “discoverers ” had stained these bone fragments to gain recognition and promote the falsehood of evolution.
    NEBRASKA MAN: One ancient tooth was discovered in Nebraska. Eager evolutionists built a whole imaginary society and lifestyle around this single tooth! When they found the rest of the skull some two years later, IT WAS CLEAR THAT THE TOOTH BELONGED TO A PIG. For many years, evolutionists described Nebraska Man as a missing link.
    JAVA MAN: This prehistoric man was found on the island of Java and was reported to be the missing link between man and ape. After serious study it was found that the two pieces of Java Man were from two different skulls from two different areas of the island. Both were from the same species, probably an Orangutan, but they were not the parts of a man. Recent human skulls have now been discovered in the same layer of rock.
    PEKING MAN: This manlike creature was found in China during the early part of this century. No other scientists have directly observed this site and it has not actually been seen in more than 50 years. All of the examples of Peking Man were reported to have the back of their skulls smashed in, EXACTLY MATCHING THE RESULT WHEN PEOPLE OF THAT REGION HUNT FOR MONKEY BRAINS. Also, MODERN HUMAN REMAINS WERE FOUND AT THE SAME SITE.
    LUCY: Lucy is the latest find that has been almost universally accepted as mankind’s ancestor. Lucy is an Australopithecus, that is actually more like a monkey than man. When the bones were studied by spectrograph, THEY WERE FOUND TO MATCH A CHIMPANZEE, RATHER THAN A MAN. Lucy too, is a MOSAIC, with BONES ASSEMBLED FROM DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
    LAETOLI FOOTPRINTS: These footprints were found in the same strata as the Lucy bones. Evolutionary scientists have said that Lucy-like animals made these, but a podiatrist concluded they are modern human footprints. It appears that Lucy is not an ancestor of modern man, but simply a MONKEY
    KENYA SKULL: Recently it was reported that scientists had discovered a fossil of a skull in Kenya that evolutionists claim has more human-like features than “Lucy.” This means that evolutionary scientists MUST ONCE AGAIN REVISE their theory of man’s origin. Ken Ham, Executive Director of Answers in Genesis says that the newly discovered fossil – which he says is NOTHING MORE THAN THE SKULL OF A CHIMPANZEE – only pokes more holes in the argument for evolution.
    ARCHAEOPTERYX: Originally thought of as a transitional fossil between the reptiles and birds, it is now considered by most evolutionists to be a true bird. Also true birds have been found lower in the fossil record, making them older than Archaeopteryx. Chinese paleontologist Xu Xing contends that Archaeopteryx is a combination of two fossils: one of the body and head of a birdlike creature and the other of the tail of a dinosaur. Xing says he has found another fossil, in a private collection in China, that contains the mirror image of the supposed tail of the Archaeoraptor. National Geographic published a note in its March 2000 issue saying that CT scans of the fossil appear to confirm Xing’s observations and “revealed anomalies in the fossil’s reconstruction.”
    To sum it up, here is what Dr. Austin Clark, a leading biologist of the Smithsonian Institute in Washington has to day about the subject: “No matter how far back we go in the fossil record of previous animal life on earth, we find no trace of any animal forms which are intermediate between the major groups of phyla. Scientists have sometimes come up with a few things that they have elected as candidates as transitions, but on a later closer examination these have been seen to be misinterpretations. There are no such things as missing links. … Missing links are misinterpretations.”
    “Science now knows that many of the pillars of Darwinian theory are either false or misleading. Yet biology texts continue to present them as factual evidence of evolution. What does this imply about their scientific standards?” — Jonathan Wells (Recipient of Ph.D. in Molecular and Cell Biology from the University of California at Berkeley. Has worked as a postdoctoral research biologist at the University of California at Berkeley and the supervisor of a medical laboratory in Fairfield, California. Has taught biology at California State University in Hayward.)

    SO MUCH LIKE STRICT MATERIALISM, THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION IS ANOTHER NONSCIENTIFIC, HIGHLY ILLOGICAL AND VERY FAULTY CONCEPT. These very concepts are the very core concepts and principles of atheism and we are not even talking yet of the concept of moral accountability and humanity which are very blurred logical concepts for atheists. ARE YOU NOW AWARE MR. TONY O’NEILL OF YOUR BIG IGNORANCE AND IDIOCY?

  78. EYES says:

    TO: Richard Webster, Tony O’Neill & Ben Myers

    bros. can you show us a little synopsis about sam jordison books regarding GOD inexistent. (why and what his point)

    maybe this can spark a showdown between bro. quiel and tony o’neill.

    For the meantime let’s start by the following argument.

    TOPIC: DNA

    For tony o’neill what can you say if bro. quiel will said the following argument;

    — The printed circuit board (PCB) or schematic diagram and parts of a first television is too bulky, not efficient and black and white only. Through time it evolve the PCB was redesign and the new parts is introduced and it is colored already.

    but if the PCB of a television has a designer then how much more the map(schematic diagram) of human structure and traits which called DNA which is more complex than a television.

    can we say it, by accident only.

    if we use that argument, can we produce a TV by accident or we have to work on it?

    if we have to work on it then who work on us?

    start………..

  79. elmantheman says:

    Tony O’Neill would not listen to God for now. Why? Just read his expression, “my goodness.”

    People like him see the good of himself and don’t really know where that goodness really comes from.

    But if he knows only of his goodness basing on his statement above, of blasphemy to God, I think, that goodness coming from his father, the father of this world, the father of his own fairy tale.

    But let us pray for him that he will soon realize that his own knowledge and understanding about God’s non existence won’t help him when danger comes knocking at his door.

  80. quiel says:

    Now that I have effectively destroyed the core fundamental concepts underlying atheism, let us then now PROVE THE EXISTENCE OF AN EXISTING LIVING GOD to the satisfaction of the “anticipation” of Mr. O’Neill.

    I don’t know if Mr. O’Neill is aware that in pure and applied mathematics there is such a HIGHLY TESTED mathematical foundational concept called BIJECTION or ONE-TO-ONE CORRESPONDENCE which means a function f from a set X to a set Y with the property that, for every y in Y, there is exactly one x in X such that f(x) = y. Alternatively, f is bijective if it is a one-to-one correspondence between those sets; i.e., both one-to-one (injective) and onto (surjective). For example, consider the function succ, defined from the set of integers to , that to each integer x associates the integer succ(x) = x + 1. For another example, consider the function sumdif that to each pair (x,y) of real numbers associates the pair sumdif(x,y) = (x + y, x − y). A bijective function is also called a permutation. This is more commonly used when X = Y. It should be noted that one-to-one function means one-to-one correspondence (i.e., bijection) to some authors, but injection to others. The set of all bijections from X to Y is denoted as X Y. BIJECTIVE FUNCTIONS PLAY A FUNDAMENTAL ROLE IN MANY AREAS OF MATHEMATICS, for instance in the definition of isomorphism (and related concepts such as homeomorphism and diffeomorphism), permutation group, projective map, and many others.

    LET US THEN NOW APPLY THIS MATHEMATICAL MODEL TO PROVE THAT A LIVING, EXISTING GOD REALLY EXISTS.

    To start with, we are dealing with abstract quantities in contrast to absolute quantities like real numbers like 1, -1, and even to the surprise of Mr. O’Neill, 0! Being abstract quantities we need a FIXED SET OF LOGICAL STANDARD to solve the mathematical equation which we will then prove has BIJECTION or ONE-TO-ONE CORRESPONDENCE with our variables.

    WHAT IS NOW THEN OUR MATHEMATICAL ABSTRACT VARIABLES?

    For the sake of mathematical argument, let God be Set A which we will call SET GOD and let Crude Reality be Set B which we will call SET CRUDE REALITY.

    WHAT WILL NOW BE THE MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION GIVEN THE TWO SETS OF ABSTRACT VARIABLES?

    Absolute quantities, constants and vectors alike, need some sort of UNIT OF MEASUREMENT for us to VALIDLY recognize the DEGREE OF MAGNITUDE of those given quantities e.g., mass in terms of grams as a constant, acceleration in terms of meter per second as a vector, etc.

    God, being an abstract set variable must have some sort of a MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION for us to identify set elements having VALID BIJECTION to Crude Reality which we already recognized here as SET GOD and SET CRUDE REALITY respectively for mathematical purposes. Let us now HEURISTICALLY consider the BIBLE as our MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION for us to prove a MATHEMATICALLY VALID BIJECTION.

    In the Bible, which is our mathematical function, we can read a certain God saying in the book of Genesis chapter 1 verses 20 to 22;
    “And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl [that] may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that [it was] good. And God blessed them, saying, Be FRUITFUL, and MULTIPLY, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl MULTIPLY IN THE EARTH.”
    IT IS VERY CLEAR FROM THE VERSE THAT IT IS ACTUALLY REFERRING TO ORGANIC REPRODUCTION WHICH IS A CLEAR ELEMENT OF SET B OR SET CRUDE REALITY WHICH IS A VERY CLEAR SCIENTIFIC FACT AND NOT JUST A FAULTY HYPOTHETICAL THEORY JUST LIKE EVOLUTION BECAUSE ORGANIC REPRODUCTION CAN BE READILY VERIFIED SCIENTIFICALLY OR EVEN BY JUST APPLYING SIMPLE OBSERVATION, THUS, ORGANIC REPRODUCTION IS AN ELEMENT OF SET CRUDE REALITY.

    HEURISTICALLY considering the Bible as our mathematical function, ORGANIC REPRODUCTION can now be validly considered as an element of SET GOD by applying CAUSE AND EFFECT scientific principle because by using the Bible as our mathematical function, we can DIRECTLY ASSOCIATE organic reproduction to God, THUS, A VALID MATHEMATICAL PROOF OF A VALID BIJECTION OR ONE-TO-ONE CORRESPONDENCE.

    In conclusion, by us using SET THEORY which is a validly recognized part of mathematical knowledge particularly in ALGEBRA and CALCULUS, WE HAVE NOW A MATHEMATICAL EVIDENCE PROVING THE EXISTENCE OF A LIVING GOD AND WE HAVE ONLY USED A MINUSCULE FRACTION OF OUR MATHEMATICAL FUNCTION WHICH IS THE BIBLE BECAUSE THE ARE MANY STATEMENTS IN THE BIBLE COMING FROM THIS CERTAIN GOD WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY PROVEN TO EXIST BY APPLYING A HIGHLY TESTED MATHEMATICAL PRINCIPLE!

    Mr. Tony O’Neill, WE ARE JUST TALKING HERE ABOUT THE MATHEMATICAL PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF A LIVING GOD, WE ARE NOT YET IMMERSING OURSELVES WITH PHILOSOPHICAL AND SCIENTIFIC PROOFS. WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO TACKLE FIRST MR. TONY O’NEILL? ARE YOU NOW REALIZING HOW IMPERTINENT ARE YOUR ARGUMENTS? IM VERY MUCH WILLING TO DEBATE MORE! SHALL WE CONTINUE?

  81. DOMINIK says:

    To all the detractors,

    To end and the only way to find out who is ignorant and stupid in this blog is to ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE in a FORMAL DEBATE.

    To Tony,

    This group can PROVE the existence of our GOD! That’s how confident this group is.
    ACCEPT the challenge and you will find out for yourselves how IGNARAMUS you are and your Idol Sam.
    By the way… are you a member of any church? I want an answer please.

    To Bro. Reggie,
    Kumusta na, Bro. Long time no hear. It’s good to see your blog. Salamat po sa Dios.

  82. Erwin Marquez from Philippines says:

    to Mr Sam Jordison,

    If I will be in your position,I’ll try to listen first to what brod ellie is preaching before coming up to stand that God is not existing at all. Just open your heart and Gd willing, he ‘ll send somebody to enlighten you.

  83. on December 7, 2007 at 8:32 pm76 Tony O’Neill
    hey quiel

    well, one of my other posts mysteriously didnt appear on this site ( a reference to people calling sam jordison ‘money grabbing’ when we all know that the church is the biggest money grabbing racket there is) which leads me to believe that i would never get a free reign to speak on here.

    well sorry to say that. maybe some or one of the words you used isnt appropriate, that’s why

    to quiell
    ahm, just in cased you didnt know, in internet posting, using statements with all capital letters means shouting.

    btw, tony said however, my goodness, if you think that you can somehow prove the existence of god (which nobody has been able to do up to this point in history) then, wow, be my guest. i’m quivering with anticipation.

    well, tony doesnt have his mind because at this point of time, no person can see the mind… so tony doesnt have a mind.
    he doesnt have soul, because he still didn’t see his soul… he doesnt have love because he didnt see love yet. in fact, does tony seen his mother gave birth to him? if i follow his arguement, then he will never believe that he is the son of his mother except his mother show some photos, videos that she was bringing forth a child, and she must prove that that certain child she brought forth was really tony…

  84. mario d'arcy g. sunico says:

    jordison has shown his color & the flock ought to keep away from this guy. it wouldn’t add any feather in your caps if you
    will comment or criticize this fellow. keep your self-respects & your lips mum. ignore him as if he never existed. hahaha isn’t this a better alternative?

  85. mario d'arcy g. sunico says:

    & so does o’neill deserves to get the cold shoulders from your flock. this guy, like jordison, needs somebody to argue with him. you guys don’t need to waste your time on people like these or you’ll revert back to the norms of the crusaders & the pharisees.

  86. Tziporah says:

    God’s existence cannot be denied!
    If someone can prove that he or she can make a strand of hair without the aid of science and magic, I may think otherwise. (Think that someone can do so is the son of his father, Satan.)
    Moreover, I stand firm that the Bible is not a mere book. It is not a myth just like how other people would consider it. It’s not like a legend or other products of silly imaginations. It’s a record of history! A complete account of what had happened before Jesus Christ existed in flesh and what will happen in the future. It is a perfect book that would bring us all to salvation! However, a book is nothing without someone to read it. So, we need to read it… READ not REPHRASE!
    For those who are still in the philosophical stage of reading and those who are still savoring the whimsical idiotic effects of fairy tales, go on and find yourself living in the world of make believe or should I say dying. The mere fact that many disprove and even curse the reality and authenticity of the Bibale is enough proof, a very heavy evidence, that GOD do exist and do remain the only SEER of all the peoples in the world, good and evil, believer or not, all, even in the infinity and beyond it! He allows evil (none believer/the belief that He is not existing) to roam around us to let His children (believer) shine the most everytime that they overcome evil! And how will these children of God win over? Simple, they are readers that’s all! Revelations 1:3
    To God be the glory!

  87. Living Soul says:

    Poor Sam,

    I guess my word of advice for you Mr. Jordison is you face Mr. Bean first in public before our preacher will face you.(Lol)

    Seriously, I’m just wondering why you’re asking for a fee where in fact this is a debate challenge. I haven’t heard of that ever since. I suppose, you really have no idea what a debate is. You better learn first the basics before you engage yourself in a very terrible situation of leaving the venue in disgrace. Surely, as I can see the inevitable result of losing the face-off, nobody would grab a copy of your books at all. So better stay at home and start reading books, from science to history, including the British history, before flirting with the idea of writing a book again, of course one with a very sensible and useful subject and not the kind of those you write and sell. Be a productive English subject. Don’t be a shame to your Queen.

    Then, forget about everything of facing Bro. Eli for a debate. But if you keep on insisting, then, prepare yourself for a consuming fire-like words of God that come out from the very mouth of Brother Eliseo F. Soriano.

    Heed my advice chap!

  88. quiel says:

    To Jay-r cute este Cruz,

    You said and I quote,”ahm, just in cased you didnt know, in internet posting, using statements with all capital letters means shouting.”

    Hey bro, I didn’t know you’re having problem with my shouting. Maybe you could start rebutting those atheists here rather than exhaust all your mental energies on such VERY TRIVIAL matters such as my shouting. Dont worry bro, I do PERFECTLY understand that capitalizing letters in web literature means shouting, IT ALSO MEANS AN EMPHATIC WORD OR STATEMENT THOUGH IN CASE YOU DIDN’T KNOW.

  89. beloved298 says:

    Hello Bro. Eli!

    We’re missing you a lot!

  90. Engie_Mangio says:

    To Quiel,

    You said that scientists or atheist don’t even know what caused the big bang.But we know for a Fact that it happened.(see below)
    It is alright to be Agnostic at the moment as to what caused the big bang until the evidence comes in.”Just because science cannot answer this question now means;this question will never be answered forever”.

    Why is the big bang a theory anyway it is because it is a theory that can be tested,and it passed all these tests.

    If God according to you created everything,then who created god?

    The God hypothesis is not testable;because:
    “anything you cannot explain rationally is automatically subsumed by the external, unverifiable “intelligence”.

    Evidence that support the Big Bang Theory:
    * First of all, we are reasonably certain that the universe had a beginning.
    * Second, galaxies appear to be moving away from us at speeds proportional to their distance. This is called “Hubble’s Law,” named after Edwin Hubble (1889-1953) who discovered this phenomenon in 1929. This observation supports the expansion of the universe and suggests that the universe was once compacted.
    * Third, if the universe was initially very, very hot as the Big Bang suggests, we should be able to find some remnant of this heat. In 1965, Radioastronomers Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson discovered a 2.725 degree Kelvin (-454.765 degree Fahrenheit, -270.425 degree Celsius) Cosmic Microwave Background radiation (CMB) which pervades the observable universe. This is thought to be the remnant which scientists were looking for. Penzias and Wilson shared in the 1978 Nobel Prize for Physics for their discovery.
    * Finally, the abundance of the “light elements” Hydrogen and Helium found in the observable universe are thought to support the Big Bang model of origins.

    To say a theory is just a theory and not a fact is an insult to science and all the benefits it has provided humanity in general such as: modern medicines,vaccinations,eradicate starvation by producing high yield crops etc.

    and what of religion yhwh in particular the crusades,the inquisition,religious cleansing rebranded as ethnic cleansing.
    Protestants and catholics in Ireland, Catholic Croats Orthodox Serbs,Moslem Bosnians killing each other.
    and 911 enough is enough.

    Prove God exists. If he does I’m sure the killing will stop.

  91. Engie_Mangio says:

    To Quiel,

    A site to get all your facts straight about evolution, since according to you he is a prominent evolutionist

    http://www.richarddawkins.net
    you will also find some links on other prominent scientists.

    I’m calling all you good people out there to seek the Truth,
    The Truth is what will all bind us together,not seperate us.

    Good Luck!

  92. Engie_Mangio says:

    Hey Quiel,

    My posts have mysteriously disappeared as well, My arguments are obviously against yours, and they have been removed by your moderators.shame on you.

  93. Kenneth (lokal ng Molino) says:

    Clearly, no need for a debate on this. Bro. Eli is speaking all teachings and wisdoms in the bible Vs. Sam’s point of view.

    There’s no bearing on this man’s (sam) challenge.

    Then Sam asking for compensation and other stuff… If there’s a term that I can call to Sam, well he’s a Scammer.

    You know Sam, just read the bible and pray to God and ask help on understanding his teachings. And hopefully, (with God’s help) someday you’ll gonna tell that “The Bible is True!”.

  94. broerke_7625 says:

    I think we already know the true color of this man (jordison)
    he is using the bible to make profit out of it… well i am no longer suprised. Even manalo, quibuloy, Hinn and the rest of the false prophets in our times also do the same. As it is written in (John 10:12) But he that is a hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep… They are preaching not for the glory of GOD but because of material things… They are indeed of their father “the devil”…
    And Glory to GOD Almighty because of Bro. Eli, who are willing to spend and be spent for the GLORY of the LORD… AMEN…

  95. Jerex Macaya says:

    Psalms 14

    1. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

    Tony O’Neill is a “FOOL”

  96. Michael "Mazda" San Miguel says:

    I have finally found a personality which reflects my own, you are truly great and brillant. You have my support and belief because you and I are reading the same page and have the same faith.

  97. Mark Dela Cruz, TUN 00220 says:

    Mr. Sam Jordison, in my opinion, asking for compensation with regards to one’s possible humiliation is just like selling a used up dirty stinking sock to someone (if there would be ONE with the RIGHT mind to do so). Opinion and the words you let out of your mouth, or even in your mind, is something that we should always check. These words that we say may offer allegiance, loyalty, humiliation, etc. So, if i may say, we should always be confident and true to what we say, just like Our Lord God as it said in a verse and it goes something like this (forgive me for not being able to memorize the verse) ,
    ” … God cannot lie … “.

    [... i ask for Your forgiveness O Lord... ]

  98. joy says:

    to mr.o’neil;
    Mister,for a self-professed animal, Did u come from the primate line?
    bltw,wake up,mister,there’s a chance for you yet.
    Be open, get out of the deep well of athiesm and venture to the other side. It is for the love of my fellow that I encourage you to listen to Mr.Soriano. Listen to him well. He does not speak to abase anybody or to smite anyones pride.He speaks out of love. Believe me its worth a try.I tried and it has helped me. Maybe listening to him will open new perspectives for u and ur fellow athiests. happy listening!

  99. Tim Pastoral says:

    Oh Poor boy, be careful to whom you speak!!
    Your Book is such a mess!!

  100. Tim Pastoral says:

    Tsk tsk, Sam Jordison
    You’re just one of the Bad Guys!!

  101. bryan says:

    After reading this article by Bro.Eli my faith in God still unbreakable! Pity on Mr.Jordison, he’s no less than any money making preachers!

  102. Kath says:

    To Engot Mangio:

    The one that caused the BIG BANG was the words, “Let there be light”, and Poof!, there was light!

  103. sketch says:

    all of this shouting and yelling. funny isn’t it? if you were all a bit more secure in your belief in this whole fairy tale, it probably wouldn’t bother you so much when people say things like this. oh well.
    —-tony oneill

    Brethren of this faith are strong but being strong doesn’t mean they don’t have worries. We worry about other people that could be mislead by your dirty idea. You and cohorts

  104. Engie_M says:

    To Elmantheman referring to Atheists:
    “From their blogs, some allow comments outside of their circle, but some really delete comments that oppose their views. You can try to browse and see for yourselves.”

    Oh Really!,no more can you see this practice but from this Site,I have submitted voluminous comments on this site that never saw the light of day, the majority of people commenting on this Site are Eli’s proficient gullible boot-lickers,Thanks to your obedient comment moderators.

    To Kath @
    The one that caused the BIG BANG was the words, “Let there be light”, and Poof!, there was light!

    -I Think you need to Improve your reading comprehension my dear,

    The text says: “Let there be light”
    and not “Let there be Bang”

    and by the way; Light doesn’t make A “Poof” sound,
    Light is, silent my dear, It doesn,t make a sound.

  105. Sam Jordison says:

    Still too scared?

  106. stuttering says:

    To Sam Jordison:

    YOUR TOO SCARED SCAMMER
    YOUR NOT WORTH A PENNY
    YOU DONT HAVE ANY INTEGRITY IN YOU BEAST

  107. Dark Kiva says:

    to sam jordison:

    you wish!

  108. Beiruth says:

    Asking transportation allowance? Shame on you Sam Jordison!

    Ephesians 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of their ignorance and hardness of heart.
    Eph 4:19 Since they have lost all sense of shame, they have abandoned themselves to sensuality and practice every kind of sexual perversion without restraint.

  109. Engie_M says:

    To Everyone here who keeps on shouting “fool” and “idiot”, be careful what you call people if they are really what you say they are,prove it…..
    instead of shouting “ad hominems”,Remember,what the bible says:

    “But whosoever shall say ‘Thou fool’ shall be in danger of hell fire.”
    -Matthew 5:22

  110. Christopherson Lumbaquin says:

    Sam is just wasting the trees for making papers to be use on his nonsense books. Come to think of it? What good can it do to anyone if you will believe that there is no GOD? Isn’t it that this will result in chaos, war, crimes, violence and all bad things you can ever think of. However if you would believe that there is GOD and you will have faith that there is eternal life isn’t it that this will bring peace, love, harmony and all good things you can ever think of. Make sense right? This is very plain and simple SAM, your making it complicated where in fact you are the son of GOD, only GOD of this world who is SATAN.

  111. bro ronald florendo says:

    Pagpalain po si Sam, Bless Sam

  112. duds roa says:

    To the moderators of this site. will Soriano find the courage to really face personally a formal debate?

    but we really know the answer to that don’t we?

  113. Peter says:

    The Christians I know (including Sam) are kind.

  114. cLessy says:

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY! Church of God Forever!

  115. Poppy says:

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Please would you remove this page.

    I was present at Sam’s christening and it was a lovely occassion.

    Sam is from a Christian family.

    Please remove the page.

    Thankyou,

    Poppy

  116. Poppy says:

    Dear Sir/Madam,

    Please don’t post the previous letter on the site.. it is merely a request for you to remove the page.

    Thankyou,

    Poppy

  117. peter says:

    Hello,

    The Christians that I know are kind, including Sam.

    Peter

  118. Poppy says:

    Hello,

    I was at Sam’s Christening and it was a very good occassion.

    This page is an embarressment to Christians everywhere.

    Please remove the page.

    Thankyou.

  119. Maligalig says:

    Hi Sam? How are you now?

    Can I have a little reminder for you, because what I have in my mind is you are still sleeping. You are dreaming a very very bad dream. I sensed that if you don’t stop making your non -sensed comment that might be your ticket to hell.

    Bye bye , luv you!

  120. elmantheman says:

    Engie_M

    What are you trying to prove when you singles out Atheists as my subject about what I wrote above? In fact my first quote is “Freely received, Freely give.”

    My point of contention here is, people post articles for monetary gain and for one to sell his merchandise, he wouldn’t want his fish tagged as “spoiled”. So, he would instead delete comments that says so.

    Read my first paragraph which states at the end: “They too formed circle of friends through blogs and within advertise each others’ merchandise through comment-posting. What do you think are their merchandise? They sell their books containing their views about the gospel! Even Atheists and other authors do this by disproving the Holy Scriptures, to the extent of adulterating what they believe has no existence, more so, they profit from their deceit in this world!”

    Then the next is this, “From their blogs, some allow comments outside of their circle, but some really delete comments that oppose their views. You can try to browse and see for yourselves.”

    How can they sell their books if commentators will argue that they are wrong?

    As far as I am concerned, Sam Jordison just uses God to earn a living, even if he doesn’t believe that God exists. What kind of stomach do this kind of people have? The subject of their ridicule become the SOURCE of their food and livelihood. They can’t even produce a book and give it for free, just to prove that they do not merchandise or peddle the word of God, and God himself.

  121. Ulysses Durano says:

    I feel sorry for sam and to all who do not believe in GOD, Read Hebrew 9:27. if you do not believe then, second resurection will be too late. All will face the judgement.

    Listen and listen to yourself someone in there very hungry.

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