Comments on: A Scientific Way of Discovering Biblical Truth (Part 1) http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/ The Official Blog of the Presiding Minister, Members of the Church of God, International www.angdatingdaan.org Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:15:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Rhina http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-9529 Rhina Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:00:25 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-9529 THANK YOU LORD GOD, WE WORSHIP YOU AND WE GLORIFY YOU EVERY MOMENT OF OUR LIFE. Thank you for the continuous blessings to Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, the ministers, workers, and members of the CHURCH OF GOD International. Your protection O LORD has allowed Bro Eli to go on with his mission to spread the TRUTH and the GOSPEL OF GOD,worldwide, against all odds, and dangers of being killed by the enemies of the true church. Bro Eli has been marked to death, has beeb maligned, maliciously charged with all crimes he has not done, constantly being monitored by the 'spies' from the false churches supported by their 'captive' and subservient Philippine government officials who had the notion that these false churches can deliver votes during election times. Anyway, the fast growth of the CHURCH OF GOD in so short a time, under financial constraints, and all form of persecutions from the inc-ni-manalo and the other bogus churches, will prove that Bro Eli is GOD sent, and gifted with the knowledge and understanding of the WORDS OF GOD. We do not wish to compare Bro Eli with many late-comer preachers nor every tom dick and harry now claiming to be from GOD and or to be the CHRIST, and has made financial fortunes at the expense of their poor, ignorant, and misled members. Bro Eli could have been a billioner if only he made business out of religion, the way that false churches and their leaders did, but because of his true love for GOD and his concern for man's salvation, Bro Eli is still poor the way he started to preach the WORDS OF GOD.Bro Eli has been approached by the powerful and mighty, the politicians, and government officials, yet he did not take advantage to enrich himself, nor gain influence the way that the inc-ni-manalo, and other churches did. Inspite of Bro Eli's popularity and mass following, he has maintained a low key in the church and society, refusing to be admired, addressed as 'father', reverend, sir, and many other flattering titles, and always instead, told all and everybody that gratitude and GLORY belongs to GOD and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. We do not boast, but the truth is, there is no messenger, preacher like Bro Eli, who has scientifically discovered the biblical truth and has not stop to share them to everybody. THANK YOU LORD GOD, WE WORSHIP YOU AND WE GLORIFY YOU EVERY MOMENT OF OUR LIFE. Thank you for the continuous blessings to Bro Eli, Bro Daniel, the ministers, workers, and members of the CHURCH OF GOD International. Your protection O LORD has allowed Bro Eli to go on with his mission to spread the TRUTH and the GOSPEL OF GOD,worldwide, against all odds, and dangers of being killed by the enemies of the true church. Bro Eli has been marked to death, has beeb maligned, maliciously charged with all crimes he has not done, constantly being monitored by the ’spies’ from the false churches supported by their ‘captive’ and subservient Philippine government officials who had the notion that these false churches can deliver votes during election times. Anyway, the fast growth of the CHURCH OF GOD in so short a time, under financial constraints, and all form of persecutions from the inc-ni-manalo and the other bogus churches, will prove that Bro Eli is GOD sent, and gifted with the knowledge and understanding of the WORDS OF GOD. We do not wish to compare Bro Eli with many late-comer preachers nor every tom dick and harry now claiming to be from GOD and or to be the CHRIST, and has made financial fortunes at the expense of their poor, ignorant, and misled members. Bro Eli could have been a billioner if only he made business out of religion, the way that false churches and their leaders did, but because of his true love for GOD and his concern for man’s salvation, Bro Eli is still poor the way he started to preach the WORDS OF GOD.Bro Eli has been approached by the powerful and mighty, the politicians, and government officials, yet he did not take advantage to enrich himself, nor gain influence the way that the inc-ni-manalo, and other churches did. Inspite of Bro Eli’s popularity and mass following, he has maintained a low key in the church and society, refusing to be admired, addressed as ‘father’, reverend, sir, and many other flattering titles, and always instead, told all and everybody that gratitude and GLORY belongs to GOD and HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. We do not boast, but the truth is, there is no messenger, preacher like Bro Eli, who has scientifically discovered the biblical truth and has not stop to share them to everybody.

]]> By: someone_who_cares http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6225 someone_who_cares Fri, 10 Aug 2007 21:02:53 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6225 Dear Miss Noreen, Thank you for the well-articulated response! Actually my question is just in-line with the argument made by Mr. Old_Path # 32 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/perfect-justice-in-gods-perfect-time/. I guess it needs to be explained clearly by EFS for it not to create any confusion to the eyes of the readers. Im my opinion, when Prophet Jeremiah proclaimed his message, He's not referring to the covenant written in Gospel to the Hebrew but to the Old Covenant Old path - Old covenant Well, let us just hear bro. eli on this issue! God bless! Dear Miss Noreen,

Thank you for the well-articulated response! Actually my question is just in-line with the argument made by Mr. Old_Path # 32

http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/perfect-justice-in-gods-perfect-time/.

I guess it needs to be explained clearly by EFS for it not to create any confusion to the eyes of the readers.

Im my opinion, when Prophet Jeremiah proclaimed his message, He’s not referring to the covenant written in Gospel to the Hebrew but to the Old Covenant

Old path - Old covenant

Well, let us just hear bro. eli on this issue!

God bless!

]]> By: Noreen http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6186 Noreen Fri, 10 Aug 2007 06:21:17 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6186 To someone_who_cares? Yes, it is the one in Jeremiah. What about the NEW PATH OF JESUS? Is it the one in Hebrew? There is no NEW PATH OF JESUS, I believe in the Bible. If that is so, the old path in Jeremiah speaks of the path that ' the Lord wants His people to walk in... for there they will find rest for their souls. Jeremiah 6:16 Thus says the LORD, "Stand by the ways and see and ask for the old paths, Where the good way is, and walk in it; And you will find rest for your souls. Hebrew 10:10 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh; There is no mention of NEW PATH OF JESUS... only a new and living way... However, I think, ( we can ask Bro. Eli about this ) there is a connection only in this idea, (I hope, Bro. Eli is always available to correct this.) both are ways for salvation. but, the one in Hebrew I think is about the Church where Jesus heads through the sacrifice of his body. Anyway, I was just thinking and hoping that people who are actually involved in this kind of healthy intellectual battle, religious wit, so to speak, might be searching for something... I just don't what it is... Let us hope for the best! Moreover, I know that this is an avenue for those lost souls that are awaiting to be called by GOd. Thanks for the "precious ring" thing! "I can see the beauty in you!, You have something that others dont have in your circle of faith. " Just take time... beauty is revealed may be in one blast.. maybe gradually! Thanks that you see mine! Discover others too! God is good! Especially to all his Lamb! GOD BLESS! APOC. 1:3 To someone_who_cares?

Yes, it is the one in Jeremiah.

What about the NEW PATH OF JESUS? Is it the one in Hebrew?

There is no NEW PATH OF JESUS, I believe in the Bible.

If that is so, the old path in Jeremiah speaks of the path that ‘

the Lord wants His people to walk in… for there they will find

rest for their souls.

Jeremiah 6:16
Thus says the LORD,
“Stand by the ways and see and ask for the old paths,
Where the good way is, and walk in it;
And you will find rest for your souls.

Hebrew 10:10
By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated
for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

There is no mention of NEW PATH OF JESUS… only a new and

living way…

However, I think, ( we can ask Bro. Eli about this ) there is a

connection only in this idea, (I hope, Bro. Eli is always

available to correct this.) both are ways for salvation.

but, the one in Hebrew I think is about

the Church where Jesus heads through the sacrifice of his

body.

Anyway, I was just thinking and hoping that people who are

actually involved in this kind of healthy intellectual battle,

religious wit, so to speak, might be searching for something…

I just don’t what it is… Let us hope for the best!

Moreover, I know that this is an avenue for those lost souls

that are awaiting to be called by GOd.

Thanks for the “precious ring” thing!

“I can see the beauty in you!, You have something that others dont have in your circle of faith. ”

Just take time… beauty is revealed may be in one blast..

maybe gradually! Thanks that you see mine! Discover

others too! God is good! Especially to all his Lamb!

GOD BLESS!

APOC. 1:3

]]> By: someone_who_cares http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6119 someone_who_cares Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:50:38 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6119 To miss Noreen, For a lamb that lost his way, I firmly believe that it would be a great start in finding the old path that many did not even notice to pass by… and this old path is the only path that would lead them to their peaceful haven. To answer one of your queries… --------------- My dear, you are a "precious ring". I can see the beauty in you!, You have something that others dont have in your circle of faith. There are really blessed people in every walks of faith. It only proves that our Universal FATHER is of no partisan, He is TRULY not interested in sectarianism. If you dont mind sister, I have a very simple question for you: What is this OLD PATH that you are trying to convey? Is it the OLD PATH mentioned in Jeremiah? If yes, then what's the connection of that OLD PATH to the NEW PATH Of JESUS? Is the OLD PATH the same as NEW PATH OF JESUS? To miss Noreen,

For a lamb that lost his way, I firmly believe

that it would be a great start in finding the old path that

many did not even notice to pass by… and this old path

is the only path that would lead them to their peaceful haven.

To answer one of your queries…

—————

My dear, you are a “precious ring”. I can see the beauty in you!, You have something that others dont have in your circle of faith.

There are really blessed people in every walks of faith. It only proves that our Universal FATHER is of no partisan, He is TRULY not interested in sectarianism.

If you dont mind sister, I have a very simple question for you: What is this OLD PATH that you are trying to convey? Is it the OLD PATH mentioned in Jeremiah? If yes, then what’s the connection of that OLD PATH to the NEW PATH Of JESUS? Is the OLD PATH the same as NEW PATH OF JESUS?

]]> By: Yakovlevich http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6100 Yakovlevich Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:52:12 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6100 To someone_who_cares, Your argument doesn't hold water as much as it is unbiblical. Show me a verse containing the exact phrase "God is of love" and I will stand corrected. Until then, your assumption that, "GOD is of LOVE or LOVE is of GOD is the same in the proper usage of that term figuratively speaking," remains a preconceived idea, illogical, and unbiblical. To someone_who_cares,

Your argument doesn’t hold water as much as it is unbiblical.

Show me a verse containing the exact phrase “God is of love” and I will stand corrected.

Until then, your assumption that, “GOD is of LOVE or LOVE is of GOD is the same in the proper usage of that term figuratively speaking,” remains a preconceived idea, illogical, and unbiblical.

]]> By: Yakovlevich http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6099 Yakovlevich Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:46:33 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6099 Dear Knight, No, brother, I did not say that you are ill-informed and that I am well-informed. If you are an active member of the church, then it's a must that you know the verses I mentioned. However, not all are as well-informed as you, as you said, "I hate to read your long passages, it is unnecessary coz I know all of it." There are non-members reading this blog, and they are not yet well-informed of the verses. Please understand. Dear Knight,

No, brother, I did not say that you are ill-informed and that I am well-informed. If you are an active member of the church, then it’s a must that you know the verses I mentioned.

However, not all are as well-informed as you, as you said,

“I hate to read your long passages, it is unnecessary coz I know all of it.”

There are non-members reading this blog, and they are not yet well-informed of the verses.

Please understand.

]]> By: Knight http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6033 Knight Wed, 08 Aug 2007 23:36:19 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/08/05/a-scientific-way-of-discovering-biblical-truth-part-1/#comment-6033 Dear brother Yakovlevich Honestly, I hate to read your long passages, it is unnecessary coz I know all of it, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT I AM ILL-INFORMED AND THAT YOU ARE WELL-INFORMED? ! I am not up to any discussion regarding this matter but it seems to me that you want to make this simple statement of my FAITH as a HIGHLIGHT. What's wrong if I say that Bro. Eli is so HUMBLE in my eyes and better than St. Paul in terms of Character. YES, they are both Saints of the MOST HIGH but they are also human like us, therefore they can possess different character. Be considerate! Thank you! God bless too! Dear brother Yakovlevich

Honestly, I hate to read your long passages, it is unnecessary coz I know all of it, ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT I AM ILL-INFORMED AND THAT YOU ARE WELL-INFORMED? ! I am not up to any discussion regarding this matter but it seems to me that you want to make this simple statement of my FAITH as a HIGHLIGHT.

What’s wrong if I say that Bro. Eli is so HUMBLE in my eyes and better than St. Paul in terms of Character. YES, they are both Saints of the MOST HIGH but they are also human like us, therefore they can possess different character.

Be considerate! Thank you! God bless too!

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