The Sin of Jose Luis Miranda’s Illusion


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Dear Bro. Eli,

Isn’t concept of sin a misnomer perception in realistic management of social, political administration of the society? Even critical analysis of church practices reflects that from time to time. Is not concept of sin man-made illusion?

Wish you opulent joy & prosperity

Point to Ponder:

“There is no such thing as a self-made man. We are made up of thousands of others.”

— George Adams

In the family, may discipline overcome indiscipline, peace discord, charity miserliness, devotion arrogance, and the truth-spoken word the false -spoken word. Avesta Yasna 60.5

Partha Roy

Dear Partha Roy,

Illusion is defined in the Encarta dictionary as:

1. something with deceptive appearance: something that deceives the senses or mind, e.g. by appearing to exist when it does not or appearing to be one thing when it is in fact another

2. false idea: a false idea, conception, or belief about somebody or something

3. deceptive power of appearances: the ability of appearances to deceive the mind and senses, or the capacity of the mind and senses to be deceived by appearances

In the Bible, illusions are called ‘lying vanities’.

(Psalms 31:6) “I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in the LORD.”

The Hebrew word used is ‘shav’, meaning:

shâv’ shav

shawv, shav

From the same as H7722 in the sense of desolating; evil (as destructive), literally (ruin) or morally (especially guile); figuratively idolatry (as false, subjectively), uselessness (as deceptive, objectively; also adverbially in vain): – false (-ly), lie, lying, vain, vanity.

Strong’s Hebrew and Greek Dictionaries

Dictionaries of Hebrew and Greek Words taken from Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance by James Strong, S.T.D., LL.D., 1890.

The word ‘apate’ was used in the Greek New Testament to denote the same thought.

apatē

ap-at’-ay

From G538; delusion: – deceit (-ful, -fulness), deceivableness (-ving).

The holiness of other people can be called an illusion, but definitely not their sins.

(2 Timothy 3:5) “Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.”

These are aptly called by Christ the Lord as hypocrites.

(Matthew 23:27) “Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchers, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.”

Hypocrisy is applying holiness in form, but denying it in heart. This is holiness in illusion; and definitely is a sin.

Can someone who kills or murders a parent, a wife, or a child which came from his or her own body, say that what he did is illusion? Is it proper to say that he committed an illusion? Do you think that it is okay to murder a wife, a child, or a parent? Are these crimes reality in society or is it as they call it — an illusion?

Anybody who will say that it is okay to murder a loving wife is a fool.

(Ephesians 5:25) “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it…”

miranda.jpgThe belief of the self-proclaimed Christ, Jose Luis De Jesus Miranda, leader of the cult “Growing in Grace”, that sin no longer exist is an illusion. Thousands are being deceived by inappropriately citing a verse he do not understand.

(Hebrews 9:28) “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

This verse was erroneously interpreted. Miranda made it appear that he is Jesus Christ; and because he has come, there is sin no more. But if you are going to look closely at the verse, and carefully consider the context, the “appearing” mentioned will be on Judgment Day.

(Hebrews 9:27-28) “And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

When Christ was seen on earth during His earthly ministry, He bore the sins of those who believed in Him.

(2 Corinthians 5:21) “For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.”

The sins of the believers are the cause of the sufferings of Christ. His death which is due to sinners made their redemption.

(Isaiah 53:4-5) “Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.”

So, He was seen on the cross, bruised and dead because of sins. When he appears on Judgment Day, sin will not be with Him anymore, but definitely, the sins of the unbelieving will be with them.

(Mark 3:29) “But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin…” RSV

(Matthew 12:32) “And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.”

Sins of the unbeliever will not be redeemed and will be with them even in the world to come!

Miranda claims that he is Christ and is come; allegedly, the second coming. But if his people have a little more healthy memories, they should have remembered that once, Miranda claimed that he is a reincarnation of the apostle Paul. Now that he claims to be Christ, is it not a sin to fool the very people extracting money from their pockets to fill yours? It certainly will be unfair for them; and it is a sin that now exist in the group of Miranda.

Miranda claims that all religious leaders, except him, are liars; but he is the one lying (of course, sinning) to the very people who enriches him. Here is a publication of the Miami Herald, which Miranda can not deny and was broadcast over NBC.

The Miami Herald/July 22, 2006

By Alexandra Alter

…. In 1988, he announced he was the reincarnation of the Apostle Paul. In 1999, he dubbed himself “the Other,” a spiritual super-being who would pave the way for Christ’s second coming. In 2004, he proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ and the sole interpreter of the gospel. http://www.rickross.com/reference/creciendo/creciendo3.html

Sin is very much a reality in Miranda and his group.

Who says that sin is an illusion? The Bible says otherwise.

The quotation of George Matthew Adams that was cited in your question is socially sound, but is not biblically true. Man is not made by thousand others, or himself. Man is made (and made whole), and being directed into righteousness only by God.

(Isaiah 41:4) “Who has done such mighty deeds, directing the affairs of the human race as each new generation marches by? It is I, the LORD, the First and the Last. I alone am he.”

There was not an upright and righteous man who lived on earth (in the past and in the present) who does not rely on the directive power of the Almighty Creator.

(Jeremiah 10:23) “O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.”

Every man, to be righteous, needs God’s direction.

(Proverbs 16:9) “A man’s heart deviseth his way: but the LORD directeth his steps.”

The quotation from the Zoroastrian scriptures that you cited, which I quote hereunder, can not be considered a general truth that can be accepted by someone who has learned the fullness of truth in the Divine Scripture: The Bible.

“May Sraosha (Obedience) conquer disobedience within this house, and may peace triumph over discord here, and generous giving over avarice, reverence over contempt, speech with truthful words over lying utterance. May the Righteous Order gain the victory over the Demon of the Lie. As in this (house) the Bountiful Immortals seek for good Yasnas and good praises from the blessed Sraosha (who governs here), and as they seek for (one) good sacrifice and act of homage (more especially their own) which is a good offering (to them) for (our) salvation, and a good offering in praise, together with a long continued offering of the entire self, (7) let not then (their) brilliant glory ever desert this house, nor the bright abundance, nor an illustrious offspring legitimately born, nor that long continued companionship which is the furtherance of that good blessedness which teaches concerning glory.”

While obedience may conquer disobedience and peace over discord, etc, in a particular situation concerning a particular house or person, but it does not apply to humanity in every given instance at all times. In fact, the Bible tells us that evil co-exists with good.

(Ecclesiastes 3:16-17) “And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there. I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.”

This is the reality that we can see, feel, and observe. This is not illusion. Where there is goodness, there is evil; and the existence of both will be the basis for God’s judgment. The evil of the evildoers will satisfy God’s justice unto those who have done good.

(Romans 2:7-11) “To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, eternal life: But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; For there is no respect of persons with God.”

Justice is equity, and everyone must be paid according to what he has done.

(Psalms 62:12) “Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.”

(John 5:28-29) “Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.”

May my God enlighten you to discern what illusion is and what is not.

May God Bless You.

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About Brother Eliseo F. Soriano
"But none of these things move me, neither do I count my life dear to myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry which I received from the Lord Jesus Christ, to testify fully the gospel of the grace of God." Acts 20:24

52 Responses to The Sin of Jose Luis Miranda’s Illusion

  1. slowhand says:

    Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda stinks….

    His lies are too obvious. He even let his members to have a tatoo of “666” in their bodies.

    He also teaches his members that the word “anti-Christ” is a good name (which is a direct contradiction to the holy scriptures).

    Aside from these, most of their doctrines are too weird. I really can’t take it!

    Anyone who believes this guy is very UNBELIEVABLE.

    By the way, he also have a counterpart here in the Philippines. His name is Apolos Quibuloy (I don’t know if I have spelled it right…). This person also claims that “he” is the “Son of God”… (another Messiah?) and the New Jerusalem is in Davao!

    I hope this 2 will see each other so that they can debate for their “throne”. Whoever wins, I don’t care!

  2. R says:

    Jesus Christ is now in Houston?

    by the way, did any of you know that Miranda’s followers put tattoos on their arms? … and guess what? it’s the “666″. Because they rejects the existence satan, it doesn’t matter to them to voluntarily put that 666 mark.

    and one more thing, have you seen the cap Miranda wears in his interview, or the sign in his table on stage when he preaches, it is SSS … which I wonder if it’s for Six Six Six.

    With a little twist to make him above the rest of his followers with lousy tattoos.

  3. michael santos says:

    wah! it’s so scary to be lead by these kind of preachers..
    Good thing God sent Bro Eli for us not to be deceived by false preachers with the likes of Miranda..

  4. R says:

    @ SLOWHAND,

    it’s APOLLO …. (Apolos is the co-worker of Paul, Apostle of Christ……. while the Apollo Quiboloy is the co-worker of … umm …. well, who else …. but the Anti-Christ!)

    anyways, your idea of having those two posers (miranda & quiboloy) to settle who among them is the “Greater Pretender” … hehehe, that would benefit fanatics of both side to at least recognize the “illusion” that deceives them.

    and as the author of this blog said …

    May my God enlighten you to discern what illusion is and what is not.

    …. especially those under the illusion of miranda, quiboloy, and the likes.

  5. Tony Santos says:

    Sin is not an illusion. It is a reality. It is very possible that Miranda is just claiming that sin is not present anymore so that he may take advantage of his blind followers.

    Evidently, he’s already started doing it and his followers even consent him for that!

    Fools!

  6. Braddpit says:

    Fool Miranda!!!

    Taking money from his members instead of preaching the gospel of the true Christ… Compare Bro. Eli and Miranda: Can you see the big difference??? Nobody does it better like Bro.Eli. The verses in the bible here are overflowing!!!

  7. b.jacj says:

    for all of the sin directors.(chatolic priests). very fool miranda and super foolish quiboloy…”THANKS TO GOD” because your nigthmare has come!!!!!

  8. scriputre 616 a.k.a. Jordan Pizarro says:

    Like Bro. Eli said, it is not only biblical that sin exists, but common sense will tell your concience ( that is if you have one Mr. Miranda ) that really there is sin. As I analyze this, thousands of years ago, the apostle Peter already warned us that such persons will appear. In the book of 2 Peter 2:18-19

    2Pe 2:18

    “For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.

    2Pe 2:19
    While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage”

    If there is an illusion, its what this Miranda is promising his blind followers. That they are free from sin, but in reality, they servants of corruption.

    Corruption in all its sense! Why? People with this belief will corrupt their own bodies, minds coz they believe that theres no sin! and eventually, they will corrupt the minds of innocent people who might fall as victims to this stupid preachers’ doctirine. As far as im concerned, the US government should do something about this “Growing Grace movement” before its too late. The law about freedom of religion should not be an excuse to brainwash peoples minds in broad day light!!!

    I always have friendly debates in yahoo chat rooms about the christian faith as “scripture616″ as my YM ID, and with God’s help i have succesfully convince some to read Bro. Eli’s web site. May we join hands to one intention to share with as many mislead people, specially to the members of this Miranda guy, Bro. Eli’s powerfull and exciting blog!!!!

    TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!

  9. b.jack says:

    Look, If Miranda is the true Christ. why does the great tribulation has’nt come?…Cause the BIBLE tells us that before we see our Lord JESUS CRHIST again, the great tribulation will come first…OPEN YOUR HEARTS. Search the BIBLE and you will find what is the true…Ask Bro.Eli Soriano…

  10. Lesley says:

    We are all deceived. Read the bible.

    http://www.datarizer.co.za

    Corinthians 6:9
    Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,

    Corinthians 15:33
    Do not be so deceived and misled! Evil companionships (communion, associations) corrupt and deprave good manners and morals and character.

    Galatians 6:7
    Do not be deceived and deluded and misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.) [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For whatever a man sows, that and that only is what he will reap.

    Timothy 2:14
    And it was not Adam who was deceived, but [the] woman who was deceived and deluded and fell into transgression.

    Timothy 3:13
    But wicked men and imposters will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and leading astray others and being deceived and led astray themselves.

    Thessalonians 2:9
    The coming [of the lawless one, the antichrist] is through the activity and working of Satan and will be attended by great power and with all sorts of [pretended] miracles and signs and delusive marvels–[all of them] lying wonders–

    John 2:18
    Boys (lads), it is the last time (hour, the end of this age). And as you have heard that the antichrist [he who will oppose Christ in the guise of Christ] is coming, even now many antichrists have arisen, which confirms our belief that it is the final (the end) time.

    John 2:22
    Who is [such a] liar as he who denies that Jesus is the Christ (the Messiah)? He is the antichrist (the antagonist of Christ), who [habitually] denies and refuses to acknowledge the Father and the Son.

    John 4:3
    And every spirit which does not acknowledge and confess that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh [but would annul, destroy, sever, disunite Him] is not of God [does not proceed from Him]. This [nonconfession] is the [spirit] of the antichrist, [of] which you heard that it was coming, and now it is already in the world.

    John 1:7
    For many imposters (seducers, deceivers, and false leaders) have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge (confess, admit) the coming of Jesus Christ (the Messiah) in bodily form. Such a one is the imposter (the seducer, the deceiver, the false leader, the antagonist of Christ) and the antichrist.

  11. hahaha says:

    sin doesn’t exist? is that so??? Okay with that concept in mind. He should not complain if i stole his car, burnt his house down, heck he shouldn’t complain if i beat him up…would you let me punch you or any of your members for fun Mr. Miranda??? After all I’m not going to sin if I do.

    THIS GUY SHOULD BE STOPPED!!! HE’S GOING TO BRING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO HELL!!! Growing in Grace’s doctrines are disgusting!!!

  12. liam sam says:

    Only fools would believe Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda.

    Who would believe such a lying person when he doesn’t even know what to call himself.

    As what the article written by Rick Ross states:

    ‘In 1988, he announced he was the reincarnation of the Apostle Paul. In 1999, he dubbed himself “the Other,” a spiritual super-being who would pave the way for Christ’s second coming. In 2004, he proclaimed himself to be Jesus Christ and the sole interpreter of the gospel.’

    May the Lord God open the hearts and minds of his disillusioned followers to the truth. And may he lead his lost sheep to his fold.

    To God be the Glory!!!

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  14. Rodel says:

    this is simply another creation of satan to deceive people and to prevent the lost sheep of God from hearing the true messenger of gospel, I pray that God may have mercy on he’s (miranda) members and open their hearts so that they may see what’s behind miranda’s intention.

  15. Bro. Tricks says:

    Bro. Tricks

    . . . Jose Luis Miranda!

    Mat. 24:24-25
    “For false christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracle to even deceive the elect – if that were possible. See, I have told you ahead of time.”

    No wonder Jose Luis Miranda is in our midst. But I warn you, he’s just one of those false christs. There is this Apollo Quiboloy, there is another one in a temple in diliman, the successor of “The Last Sugo”. Of course they are just some of the more popular disciples of satan.

    But we have something to be happy with, God’s promise.

    Job 20:5
    “that the mirth of the wicked is brief, the joy of the godless lasts but a moment.”

  16. bongzki says:

    Like many other false preachers, Miranda will bring many of his followers in hell. Let us thank God there’s Bro Eli who reveals these false preachers that deceive people.

  17. derik says:

    another fulfillment of Christ’s prophecy: MAT. 24:24!

    BEWARE everyone!

  18. elmantheman says:

    Holy, Metamorphosis
    June 14th, 2007

    We are caterpillars that digest the life out of what this world offers. But then again, we will envelope ourselves into a cocoon, a phase that shall close in on us, sooner or later.

    Metamorphosis, a phase wherein some of us will dry like leaves and fall to the ground to fill the dusts, blown by the wind. Some of us will hibernate and wake up to embrace the wind, the everlasting life, together with them that never really slept, the next phase of the great plan.

    While others will not even remember anything of this world of flesh, save them that are damned eternally. To those who knew the plan, we know that there is a time for everything.

    However, I am bothered, as this world tries to mutate our being while predators try to eat the life out of us as we crawl the branches of this materialistic world.

    Some of us, tend to hold ourselves on to this world and fails to focus on the real meaning of life. Have we asked ourselves of which reality are we sticking and crawling on to? We must need to open our eyes and start to be curious, to discover that Life has an instruction for us to live by.

    We are servants, those that follow the instruction, not by our own understanding but by the Maker’s will. Then, we shall be called His sons. Angels are not meant to marry and some of us will be like them.

    The colors on our wings will shine. Would that be in blinding rays of gold or silver? I do not know yet, for this eyes of mine is yet to be in spirit.

    Nevertheless I am truly grateful that I have a glimpse of what I can become. I need to strengthen my wings for I shall fly sooner than anyone of you thinks.

    Thus, let us all weave the silk of faith while continuing to ask for His divine guidance.

    (an essay)

    Published at Kaanib.net

    1 Corinthians 15:

    51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.

  19. Stephen says:

    This denial of sin’s existence is almost as bad as the foggy logic of atheists re: God’s “lack of” existence.

    Do we really have to accept everything we hear or see without testing it or even thinking about it first? Are we really so ready to be deceived by every guy who comes along with his pearly whites? You don’t believe your mother when she tells you to take medicine to make you better, but you easily believe this Miranda when, yes, he cannot even make up his mind as to what he really is?

    Based on the example given by E.Soriano, I’d agree, show anyone a person killing another and he/she does instinctively know it’s “bad.” Want to argue that maybe it’s “not all that bad”? Then show me a baby who came out of his mother’s womb spewing swear words or with a gun in his hand. You start from that fact and work your way from there.

    Deep in his heart, any decent human being wishes he could be “good.” The proliferation of feel-good family or love movies in Hollywood alone attests to that. I know there are a lot out there who understand what I mean. And that’s the reason why you search, question and ask.

  20. markleezero says:

    that jose luis de “moron” miranda.Imagine beating that ignorant preacher from hell without sinning?he he he! dont tempt me.

  21. angelique says:

    beware of false preachers!!!!!!!!

  22. tsk… tskk ….tsskkk ! ! !

    i therefore conclude that

    really the sayings are not true sometimes (” intelegent cant be found to those who have none”)

    look at mirandas followers they all look intelligent becouse they have everything, they are rich people but what the heck is happening to them they become an easy prey to mirandas deciet

    shame unto this people doing vain things becouse of lazyness in searching the truth they are only trusting thier money to a nonsense slave of satan.

    tsk.. tskk ….tsskkk ! ! !

  23. Gene says:

    This deranged Miranda is an evil made flesh. His claim of being christ is a direct contempt against God.

    When he said that, ” ‘Antichrist’ means ‘no longer following Jesus of Nazareth as he lived in the days of his flesh’ “, he’s absurd and condemnable.

    I don’t think this guy would be able to stand up against Bro. Eli in a debate. Not a single question of Bro. Eli will surely let him go.

    My message to the Mirandians is read your Bible. Don’t be a dumber in follwing a dumb.

  24. reyver says:

    this is what i can say.. “SATAN your too obvious”

  25. Open-minded says:

    Beware of a man who write the book with his own hands and then say “This is from God”

    Beware of a man who said “I have received inspiration,” when he hath received none

  26. gerj says:

    THOUGHT TO PONDER….

    IF MIRANDA IS CHRIST,DID HE COME FROM HEAVEN AND WHY DIDNT HIS DEAD MEMBERS COME TO LIFE AND MEET HIM IN THE CLOUDS JUST AS HIS LIVING MEMBERS SHOULD HAVE MET HIM TOO IN THE CLOUDS?

    SO,IT JUST MEANS ONE THING..THIS MIRANDA IS A FALSE CHRIST….A GREAT LIAR ….FOR THE PROPHECIES DIDNT COME TRUE AS WRITTEN. THIS SELF PROCLAIMED CHRIST IS A FALSE CHRIST….SO BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 THESS 4;16-17,MAT 24;24

    WOE UNTO THIS FALSE ,LYING CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    BUT THERE’S A R E A D E R AS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE FOR OUR TIME…..REV.1;3 BLESSED IS HE WHO READETH ALOUD…..

    LOOK OUT FOR THIS READER…..AND ASK….
    WHO IS THIS MAN SENT BY GOD TO READ OUT HIS GOSPEL TO THIS WORLD?ASK….ASK…..HAGAI 2;11

    GOD IS FAITHFUL……LET THE GOD FEARING SEEK AND HEAR GOD’S WISDOM…..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FAITH IS ADHERING AND CONFORMING TO THE WORD….AND EMBRACING FALSE DOCTRINES IS FANATICISM FOR IT IS BASELESS AND IT IS BELIED BY THE TRUE DOCTRINES OF CHRIST.

    LET THEM COME FORWARD….AND SHEW US FORMER THINGS!
    ISA.43:9 Let all the nations be gathered together, and let the people be assembled: who among them can declare this, and shew us former things? let them bring forth their witnesses, that they may be justified: or let them hear, and say, It is truth
    PLEASE LET THE MINISTERS OF ALL NATIONS COME FORWARD AND OPENLY DISCUSS…..WHO IS IN TRUTH???????????
    LET US REASON TOGETHER !
    ISA 1:18Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool

    MIRANDA ,COME FORWARD AND PROVE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHOW THE WORLD THAT YOU ARE TRULY A DECEIVER……….

    .WOE UNTO THIS FALSE CHRIST AND DECEIVER…….EVEN HE,HIMSELF HAD DECEIVED HIS OWN LYING SELF.

  27. Jay-r cute este Cruz says:

    Jose Luis Miranda vs Apollo Quiboloy? I wonder who will be the last “christ” standing between them hahaha.

    Miranda: im jesus christ in the form of you
    Quiboloy: im also jesus christ in the gentile body
    miranda: im christ and i have come. its my second coming
    quiboloy: you dont need to wait for the second coming, he is already here. and creating davao as the new jerusalem

    ________________________
    i wonder what kinds of mud they will throw to each other. I hope Bro. Eli post the videos of quiboloy challenging brother eli in a debate but when bro Eli accepted, he then kept silenced and never mentioned the debate anymore.

    If miranda of nay of his followers is reading this, Brother Eli is challenging you in a one on one doctrinal/religious debate. so if you are really the truth and all religious leaders are liars, prove it to us and to brother Eli. make your stand and fight a good battle

  28. zerocool says:

    I pity those who follow this crazy man…

    Good thing there is someone now who have the guts to expose this malicious preachers.

    Thank God we have you Bro. Eli. =D

  29. Randave says:

    It has been a long time since i’ve read another blog from Bro. Eli, and reading this one makes me feel greatful, thankful to our God, the Father Almighty, for sending a reader of the Holy Scriptures unto this generation. For such a worthless being such as I, have found truth, mercy and love in God’s words.

    Truly, for as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are God’s ways higher than any man’s way, and God’s thought are higher than any man’s thought. The doctrines of men may it be, legal, scientific, or plainly fictional such as Miranda’s, can never and will never stand against the truth that God has spoken which we can read in the Holy Scriptures.

  30. I am challenging Jose Luiz Miranda to come out and debate with Br Eli using the Bible as reference .Of course if he really is the Son of God he knows what is written in the Bible therefore winning a debate would be easy for him…….

  31. Delta says:

    If its true that sin is an illusion, how about if I . . .I kick Mr.Miranda infront of his followers.. are they going to say Amen? will I commit sin to Mr. Miranda and his followers? but, should I do that?, the fact that I know that those people, including Mr. Miranda needs help.
    they are being held hostage by their own illusions,surely, because nobody reads to them the good news of salvation.. the BIBLE.
    its not thier fault to be misled but for us who knows the truth and will not lend a help, that will be a great sin for us, in other words this is a miracle.. a good chance to do good.
    let’s show them THE OLD PATH lets bring them back to Christ.
    Thanks be to God we have Bro Eli who can lead us into this heavenly fight against evil.

  32. gerj says:

    yes.alvin.i agree with your proposition!

    but come to think of it….will this miranda come out to be put out of his money making business?

    this guy is wise…when it comes to business.
    it is better for this guy to be shamelesss than be put out of his moneymaking business.

    afterall,he is a PROFITEER…..and not TRUE PROPHET….
    BUT A FALSE PROPHET?…..I AGREE.

  33. for all those followers of miranda and quiboloy please make up your mind for the time is nigh.
    listen and ask bro. eli soriano(God sent) and the truth will set you free.
    They are merely profiteers, deceiving you. Let them face in a gentle debate bro. eli. but surely they will not for they know nothing of the bible. BEWARE OF THEM.
    BRO, ELI IS ALREADY TESTED IN HIS WORLD BIBLE EXPOSITION. No one dare to debate him anymore.
    To God Be the Glory.

  34. Look’s who’s telling the truth…

    for all the fanatics followers of both mr. miranda and mr. quiboloy please search more for the truth. read the bible and listen to Bro. eli world bible exposition.
    you can ask and the bible answers.

    have them face to face debate Bro. eli.
    to God be the glory

  35. kokoy says:

    poor miranda!he doesn’t know what his talking about…
    i think miranda is drug addict…

  36. jet says:

    kokoy,

    According to the news, he was convicted for using heroin.

  37. boots g. says:

    He is the EXACT FIGURE the bible is telling us of what to come (FALSE PROPHETS) !!!!

    Such hair raising!!! I don’t even want to hear what teaching he has for his members…

    In cases like this..I can’t help but thank God for I know in my heart that me and my family is in the true religion, with the true God, and with the true preacher that he sent in our times..

    To God be the Glory!!

  38. Elhombre says:

    miranda is a fool

    I think the reason why his followers are so proud of him is because according to this stupid guy, sin is does not exist anymore. And, hahahaha!! satan, according to him is just a hollywood figure!!

    you should have seen how he swallowed his saliva when asked about the donations. And Hes chewing a bubble gum!

    Hes a pathetic false christ!

    This is a proof that the bible is true when what The Real Christ foretold in Matthew 24:24.

    But i doubt if the elect can be decieved by this man.hehehe. even the KNC can laugh at his claim.

    kidding aside, a lot of these things will happen as foretold, before the sign of the real second coming of the Real Christ.-The sabbath of the faithful (Heb. 4:9) from this world turned cruel.

  39. Elhombre says:

    errata:

    miranda is a fool

    I think the reason why his followers are so proud of him is because according to this stupid guy, sin is does not exist anymore. – so this will be an excuse for his followers to not mind if they are corrupting themselves.

  40. wine says:

    this Miranda is really a false Christ and He is out of his mind.

  41. wine says:

    Please Miranda”s and quiboloy”s followers open your mind, ask God to enlighten your heart, don’t let youself to be fool those persons claiming to be the Christ , please read Matthew 24:24 . Just this verse will enough to know who your leaders are.

  42. OJOJ says:

    Better this two illusionists, Miranda & Quiboloy should go & simply join with David Copperfield on his Illusional Magic Shows. At least, the people will be entertained even if they give money just for enjoyment, hehehe….

  43. garri says:

    this prove that the bible is true..mat.24:24…….there is another one in the phil….that is mr.quiboloy……

  44. Luis says:

    miranda and money from blind followers just don’t mix, something has to give in…,SEE!!… the works of the devil ARE much more vivid and now!!!.The reality of our old world ending is really just around the corner. thanks GOD that theres still one person who’s bold enough to reveal this…Bro Eli !!we are always here to support you!!!!.

    To GOD be the glory!!!!

  45. Jess p7c says:

    Miranda and quiboloy are really illusionist.
    they are used by devil to deceived many.

    ‘ hope this two guys will meet someday..

  46. roland says:

    miranda and quiboloy are the son of ——. (john 8:44)

  47. Rhina says:

    Brethens, we can not help it if from time to time, such persons like miranda and abuloy, sorry, quiboloy will surface and claim he is Jesus Christ. This has been prophesied long before. Thanks GOD we have the CHURCH OF GOD International, Bro Eli and Bro Daniel assisted by the council of ministers, workers, and enlighthened members who can help counter devilish illusions. We should be more concerned with helping and saving their blinded members from their illusions of being the reincarnation of or the second JESUS CHRIST. Obviously it is for their personal enrichment purposes, at the expense of their unsuspecting and uninformed or misinformed members. At the rate that Bro Eli and Bro Daniel is moving ‘to and fro’ with the very limited time and resources to spread the TRUTH, and with everybody’s total support, there is still plenty of rooms to save their members. as showned by many of them getting baptised in the CHURCH OF GOD International, together with former catholics and inc ni manalo fanatics. Go ahead Bro Eli. Bro Daniel, many true CHRISTIANS are with you that will never be cowed anymore by the threats, and all forms of persecutions,condoned by some corrupt high government officials of the Philippines. We love you Bro Eli. MAY THE ALMIGHTY GOD SAVE US. LORD GOD, WE PRAISE YOU AND GLORIFY YOU.

  48. bro ryan says:

    good day bro eli
    i just watched this video of vatican`s scandals the link is

    http://www.movieburst.org/watch/264/Sex-Crimes-and-The-Vatican/1

  49. JC says:

    And from Jesus Christ / Stephen

    These are UN Sanctions. KJV

    13:17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

    There are only seven mounts in New York.

    17:9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

    The very first church is Ephesus/Stephen/Me

    The third church Pergamos are the Gambinos mafia,

    This is Witness protection program and bank accounts using a new name to hide money.

    2:17He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

    The very last church is Laodiceans/Case Law and Frivolous law suits

    This is case law

    3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich;

    And this is frivolous law suits.
    and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear;

    I have the keys of hell and of death.

    No terrorist will ever see heaven. No hate groups. Get the picture?

    The first Jesus said; forgive them for they know not what they do. The second Jesus says; they do know what they do.

    The wars and hate and corruption have made this earth pitiful.

    It’s not a joke people. 22:12And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

    19:15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 19:16And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

  50. Beiruth says:

    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

  51. Jeffrey says:

    Claiming to be the son of GOD as what these 2 LUNATICS (QUIBOLOY & MIRANDA) is doing is simply the highest level of IDIOTNESS. . . out of this world eh???

  52. Eijnuj says:

    This miranda is brainless,He is belong to the people who lives in the dark cave.

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