Comments on: The Vitality of Religion to Salvation http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/ The Official Blog of the Presiding Minister, Members of the Church of God, International www.angdatingdaan.org Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:08:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU By: Rhina http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-8743 Rhina Sun, 14 Oct 2007 16:01:22 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-8743 It may not be a very good example, but it came into my mind that men are like the fish in an aquarium which is the church, or religion, the water and the food are the teachings and admonitions of the leader like Bro Eli. Take the fish out of the aquarium and it will die. Put a dirty water and improper food, this stands for the fake church leaders, whose teachings and doctrines are not biblical, and just the same, the fish will not survive. As the aquarium must be a good and true aquarium, so is the church or religion be the true biblical church, which is the CHURCH OF GOD as mentioned in many verses in the bible. Thank you so much Bro Eli for this blog, and for you biblical explanation of the things related to the topic. WE GIVE THEE THANKS O LORD. It may not be a very good example, but it came into my mind that men are like the fish in an aquarium which is the church, or religion, the water and the food are the teachings and admonitions of the leader like Bro Eli. Take the fish out of the aquarium and it will die. Put a dirty water and improper food, this stands for the fake church leaders, whose teachings and doctrines are not biblical, and just the same, the fish will not survive. As the aquarium must be a good and true aquarium, so is the church or religion be the true biblical church, which is the CHURCH OF GOD as mentioned in many verses in the bible. Thank you so much Bro Eli for this blog, and for you biblical explanation of the things related to the topic. WE GIVE THEE THANKS O LORD.

]]> By: pinch_hopper http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-2037 pinch_hopper Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:04:19 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-2037 Hi elman and Dominik! Thanks to God for defining "Absolute Truth". Hi elman and Dominik!

Thanks to God for defining “Absolute Truth”.

]]> By: Jay-r Cruz http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1967 Jay-r Cruz Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:18:30 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1967 some the born again pastors simplify the thing they so called "salvation" to simplify the flow of tithes hehehe. they dont say sometimes they hid most commandments and even have guts to say it is not necessary for the salvation so that their potential victims(not members) will join them easily and smoothly, therefore the more member/victim the more money. i can boastfully say that I prefer a reader like Brother Eli that dont hide any verse from the bible nor have reservations whenever he speak the words of God. he doesnt care if you will get offended, he doesnt care if you will get angry, he doesnt care if you dont affiliate with the church he is presiding, he will still insist that salvation is not that simple as those deceitful pastor is saying. he will still insist that religion is vital to salvation, you kow why? because brother Eli is not merchandising the words of God nor merchandising you, he is not interested in your money, but he is interested in your soul's salvation, that's why, even though how complex it is, he will say and read it even if the whole world hates him. besides, it is better to be hated by the whole world than be hated by God. it is better to lose everything and everyone, than lose God. some the born again pastors simplify the thing they so called “salvation” to simplify the flow of tithes hehehe. they dont say sometimes they hid most commandments and even have guts to say it is not necessary for the salvation so that their potential victims(not members) will join them easily and smoothly, therefore the more member/victim the more money. i can boastfully say that I prefer a reader like Brother Eli that dont hide any verse from the bible nor have reservations whenever he speak the words of God. he doesnt care if you will get offended, he doesnt care if you will get angry, he doesnt care if you dont affiliate with the church he is presiding, he will still insist that salvation is not that simple as those deceitful pastor is saying. he will still insist that religion is vital to salvation, you kow why? because brother Eli is not merchandising the words of God nor merchandising you, he is not interested in your money, but he is interested in your soul’s salvation, that’s why, even though how complex it is, he will say and read it even if the whole world hates him.

besides, it is better to be hated by the whole world than be hated by God. it is better to lose everything and everyone, than lose God.

]]> By: August Dela Cruz http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1921 August Dela Cruz Fri, 08 Jun 2007 16:52:46 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1921 Amen!!! I strongly agree to that!!! For what bro. Eli says is on the Bible.. To GOD be the Glory and all thanks. Amen!!! I strongly agree to that!!!
For what bro. Eli says is on the Bible..
To GOD be the Glory and all thanks.

]]> By: R http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1869 R Fri, 08 Jun 2007 00:36:28 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1869 i just found this <strong><a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php" rel="nofollow">Online Etymology Dictionary</a></strong> and that site have this entry on the etymology of religion: <blockquote><a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=religion" rel="nofollow">religion</a> <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion" title="Look up religion at Dictionary.com" rel="nofollow"></a> c.1200, "state of life bound by monastic vows," also "conduct indicating a belief in a divine power," from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion "religious community," from L. religionem (nom. religio) "respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods," in L.L. "monastic life" (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare "go through again, read again," from re- "again" + legere "read" (see <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=lecture" rel="nofollow">lecture</a>). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare "to bind fast" (see <a href="http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=rely" rel="nofollow">rely</a>), via notion of "place an obligation on," or "bond between humans and gods." Another possible origin is religiens "careful," opposite of negligens. Meaning "particular system of faith" is recorded from c.1300. <blockquote>"To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name." [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]</blockquote>Modern sense of "recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power" is from 1535. Religious is first recorded c.1225. Transfered sense of "scrupulous, exact" is recorded from 1599.</blockquote> i just found this Online Etymology Dictionary and that site have this entry on the etymology of religion:

religion
c.1200, “state of life bound by monastic vows,” also “conduct indicating a belief in a divine power,” from Anglo-Fr. religiun (11c.), from O.Fr. religion “religious community,” from L. religionem (nom. religio) “respect for what is sacred, reverence for the gods,” in L.L. “monastic life” (5c.); according to Cicero, derived from relegare “go through again, read again,” from re- “again” + legere “read” (see lecture). However, popular etymology among the later ancients (and many modern writers) connects it with religare “to bind fast” (see rely), via notion of “place an obligation on,” or “bond between humans and gods.” Another possible origin is religiens “careful,” opposite of negligens. Meaning “particular system of faith” is recorded from c.1300.

“To hold, therefore, that there is no difference in matters of religion between forms that are unlike each other, and even contrary to each other, most clearly leads in the end to the rejection of all religion in both theory and practice. And this is the same thing as atheism, however it may differ from it in name.” [Pope Leo XIII, Immortale Dei, 1885]

Modern sense of “recognition of, obedience to, and worship of a higher, unseen power” is from 1535. Religious is first recorded c.1225. Transfered sense of “scrupulous, exact” is recorded from 1599.

]]> By: Cyrus N. http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1864 Cyrus N. Thu, 07 Jun 2007 23:07:30 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1864 This article is an enlightenment especially to those people who strongly believe that religion is not necessary for salvation. The mere fact that the Bible speaks of a true and undefiled religion proves that it is necessary for salvation, and no Bible-believing person can reject this truth in the Bible, for the Scripture does not speak in vain (James 4:5). This article is an enlightenment especially to those people who strongly believe that religion is not necessary for salvation. The mere fact that the Bible speaks of a true and undefiled religion proves that it is necessary for salvation, and no Bible-believing person can reject this truth in the Bible, for the Scripture does not speak in vain (James 4:5).

]]> By: Franklin Catunao http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1853 Franklin Catunao Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:27:28 +0000 http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/06/05/the-vitality-of-religion-to-salvation/#comment-1853 The people from the Born Again Movement needs enlightenment regarding this issue. The people from the Born Again Movement needs enlightenment regarding this issue.

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