A Biblically Smart Answer to an Impertinently Stupid Question Part 1
May 16, 2007 by Bro. Eli
I received this question that has been posted on http://esoriano.wordpress.com/ask-bro-eli/ and asked me to browse and answer to questions posted on http://godisimaginary.com/video10.htm. I would be very pleased to answer all the questions that the video’s author posted in this clip. The first question was: Why won’t God heal amputees? Well, this is my answer to that seemingly impertinent question.
To the author of www.godisimaginary.com,
You are asking an educated and an intelligent Christian. I presume that you are equally educated and intelligent, also. Based on your unfounded conclusion that God is imaginary, why did you presume or believe that the God of Christians is all powerful; and because he is all powerful, he must heal even the amputees. No educated and intelligent Christian amputee will ask the all powerful God to restore his amputated legs or limbs or any part of his body! If you are educated, even in the most elementary knowledge of science, you must know the entire anatomy and the processes in the human body. The human body has the power to heal itself through its immune system. It is the body’s main defense mechanism against all outside intruders. Even the food you eat is treated by the body as a foreign object; so the system digest it.
Before fire and the advent of cooking, we ate everything raw. All animals in nature eat raw foods. We are the only animal on the planet which cooks its food. Animals in nature don’t seem to have the extensive list of diseases that humans do, including obesity. Note: The consumption of cooked food causes digestive leukocytosis (sometimes spelled leucocytosis,) which is the sudden increase of white blood cells in the bloodstream after consuming cooked food. The presence of digestive leukocytosis suggests that consuming cooked food is foreign to the human body.
http://www.soystache.com/naturalweightlossdiet.htm
My immune system as a Christian dictates me that I must digest you; and this it how it goes.
The immune system is a delicately balanced, wonderful system that enables the body not only to avoid disease, but to heal itself if symptoms of illness arise. According to Arlene Taylor, Ph.D., director of Realizations, Inc., of Napa, California, “Eighty five percent of illnesses are believed to be within reach of the immune system. By our lifestyle choices, we can make its job easier or more difficult. Miracles can and do occur–but in general, if it heals, the body heals itself. Ideally, preventive strategies are our best bet.” (http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0826/is_n5_v11/ai_17276605)
The human body can heal and replace diseased tissues of any particular organ; and that is known to science.
Most medicines given to aid the healing process either simply reduce discomfort or protect against further attack. The body has all the mechanisms to replace damaged cells or repair damaged body parts. There really aren’t any medicines that will effectively speed up or improve the process.
http://www.school-for-champions.com/health/healing_damage.htm
The human liver can regenerate itself.
The liver is among the few internal human organs capable of natural regeneration of lost tissue; as little as 25% of remaining liver can regenerate into a whole liver again. App. 67% of a liver can grow back in one week. This is predominantly due to the hepatocytes acting as unipotential stem cells (i.e. a single hepatocyte can divide into two hepatocyte daughter cells). There is also some evidence of bipotential stem cells, called oval cells, which can differentiate into either hepatocytes or cholangiocytes (cells that line the bile ducts). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver
Even the kidneys which was thought, sometime ago, that can not regenerate itself, is now found to be (with the use of live cells in alternative medicine) able to regenerate itself.
The kidney has the potential to regenerate itself provided that the damage is not too severe and the kidney’s structure remains intact.
http://www.landesbioscience.com/journals/organogenesis/article/3961
But one thing is scientifically sure, when a part of the body is amputated; there is no way that it can regenerate. This is known, even to the elementary students of medicine. Therefore, no educated and intelligent Christian will ask the Christian God who ordained everything in its proper place, for a miracle to restore the amputated part of his body. There are a lot of cases of legs to be amputated which were miraculously healed. These are documented in hospitals and laboratories throughout the world.
Four patients are presented, each of whom represents end stage occlusive peripheral arterial disease with gangrene of the involved extremity. These patients had exhausted all traditional forms of therapy and they had all been referred for surgical amputation. Instead of surgery, intravenous EDTA chelation therapy was instituted with complete success in each case. These gangrenous extremities all healed and were saved from amputation. Long-term follow-up, extending for more than a year, indicates that all four patients are continuing to do well, with their previously gangrenous extremities intact and pain free…Read more on: http://www.drcranton.com/chelation/study5.htm
Gangrene Cured by Strongly Oxidized Water
Announcer: “When diabetes becomes serious, a person’s feet can become severely infected. This condition is called gangrene. Tonight we will report on a case in which a man whose doctor determined that his foot would be amputated because of gangrene caused by diabetes was cured by strongly oxidized water.”
Reporter: “This patient was told that his foot had to be amputated due to a condition caused by diabetes. His toes were infected very badly and he was cured by soaking his foot in hyperoxidized water twice a day. At the same time, he drank more than five liters of alkaline water daily in about four months, his toes recovered, as you can see, and are normal just like those of a healthy person.”
Right: “Seven days after he was admitted to the hospital Left: “Four months after his discharge from the hospital showing healthy toes. http://www.ionizers.org/diabetes-water.html
I am not inventing an answer to defend my God. All you need is to search on medical journals, especially, regarding alternative medicine. It is your assignment, if you are intelligent enough, too.
A diseased liver, kidney, or heart has been miraculously healed throughout the history of medical science. God and nature ordained that the human person can live under God’s grace with amputated legs or arms until he comes to life everlasting. It was written in the Bible, 2000 years ago, in the very words of the Lord Jesus Christ.
(Matthew 18:1 
“Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.”
(Matthew 5:29) “And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”
I will repeat, God through nature ordain things in this life. The black person can not change his skin; neither a leopard can remove its spot (Jeremiah 13:23).
“Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.”
An enemy of God like you will not say anything good about the Christian God. That is but natural for you. A lion, by nature, will not protect a sheep in its den. It will devour it. Perhaps you a natural enemy of God?
(2 Peter 2:12) “But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption…”
To my readers, imagine a person ascribing defamatory statements to the God who said:
“Children, obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; which is the first commandment with promise.” (Ephesians 6:1-2)
“So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.”(Ephesians 5:2
Take care of your children and your family.
(1 Timothy 5: “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.”
“…Thou shall love thy neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:39)
Pay your dues to whomever it is due.
(Romans 13:7 ) “Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.”
(Deutoronomy 5:21) “Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour’s wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour’s house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour’s.”
(Exodus 20:14) “Thou shall not commit adultery.”
(Exodus 20:13) “Thou shall not kill.”
The God of all good characters and morals, being defamed by a bald headed man who understands nothing even himself. Would you believe such a man? Then, go to hell with him! I would rather believe in a God who understands my rights; my wife’s rights; my children’s rights; my neighbor’s rights, and understands my infirmities and weaknesses, (my weaknesses and infirmities testifies that he is greater than I am) to whom all praises and glory belongs forever. Amen.
To be continued…
Thanks be to God because of you (Bro. Eli)… I was a bit upset of these statements made by GII site. I will set up a link regarding these question directly to this posts. Ferdinand.
That’s a level-headed way of debunking an impertinent accusation of a non-believer by the intelligent Christian perspective of Bro. Eli Soriano!
All I can say is … “AMEN”
Those argument is more than enough, not just for me as a Christian believer, but even to a sane non-believer who understands basic facts of life.
Although, it’s said here at the end … “To be continued…”
in your face impertinent!!
That is how the only sensible preacher of this time preach the word of God! No nonsense!
The problem with Atheists… they think they know the “real” Christian God (like All Knowing, All Powerful etc.) that their logic can disprove His existence. What they don’t know… ooops… ha ha…
better let Bro. Eli tell them.
May God Almighty continue in giving strength and wisdom to you no matter where you go… Bro. Eli!
Broth Eli, it is really great. I thank to God for giving you a wisdom to answer the questions of our fellowmen. I pray to God to give you a longer life and (kayo na po ang makasama namin hanggang sa pagbabalik ng ating Panginoong Jesus). Take care always! We really miss you.
A stupid question from a stupid person, who never think logically.
A intelegent person with a right thingking would agree from the explaination above, just need to use your ’sentido komon’ to understand, logic would be your basis.
Thanks be to GOD because there is a person always ready to answer and to be asked. To GOD be the Glory!
Thanks^_^
Thanks be to GOD!
jms_addz™
I was challenged last night to give a defense against this “fact filled” video.
I will post a link when I’ve finished my defense. Thanks for this article, I’m sure it will help me.
Amen……………… I can’t wait for the continuation
I’m astonished by how much time you spent regurgitating undisputed and at times irrelevant medical facts when your entire thesis boils down to the following:
“But one thing is scientifically sure, when a part of the body is amputated; there is no way that it can regenerate. This is known, even to the elementary students of medicine. Therefore, no educated and intelligent Christian will ask the Christian God who ordained everything in its proper place, for a miracle to restore the amputated part of his body.”
Misused simicolons and other grammatical atrocities aside, your point voilates the definition of miracle. The American Heritage Dictionary defines miracle as “an event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God.” In other words, an event which science CAN explain is by definition not a miracle. If God only worked within the predictable dictates of nature, the resurrection of Jesus wouldn’t be any more miraculous than my making poop out of meat. It is precisely because people DON’T rise from the dead that the resurrection is interesting.
You’re right. Human limbs don’t regenerate. But you’re wrong to cite man’s God-given perfection as the reason why. God made blind men see. Surely he could make a few brave soldiers from Iraq walk.
ceases to be a miracle because science uncovers NATURAL processes to explain NATURAL phenomena.
Nowhere can you find a man who would fight tooth and nail for his God and his beliefs but this man.
If we had only just 10 people in the world like him, we would survive a peaceful word.
Atheists are always impertinent
Definitely I will not go with that bald headed man!
I believe what the bible say:
“The fool has said in his heart, There is no God! They acted corruptly; they have done abominable works, there is none who does good.” ———–Psalms 14:1
I hope the author of that site learned and will learn his lessons…..
Thank God we have Bro. Eli.
To GOD Be the Glory!
So, you’re saying that since it’s impossible for the body to regenerate an arm, the Christian should not ask God for this? I mean, isn’t doing the impossible the definition of a miracle? Raising Lazarus from the dead was a bigger trick than growing an arm. Turning water into wine is physically impossible, but it sure made Mary happy.
Nonetheless, I think you’ve actually missed the point entirely. The question was posed - not to call out God’s record on amputees, but to point out that all miracles seem to conveniently be of the type that can be attributed to a coincidence of natural resolution. Even you have made this point indirectly. Therefore, why is the question stupid? All Christians must ask themselves at one time or another- why doesn’t the Red Sea part any more? Why doesn’t manna feed the starving children? Why don’t donkey’s speak when mistreated?
As I observed things around me, I found out that there are two of the stupidest people in the world. First one are the Atheists… the mere fact that they are calling themselves atheists is that they are opposing the principle of existence of God. Why would they question something that for themselves is not existing in the first place?
The second one are the cigarette smokers… imagine, spending their money for a stick that will eventually kill them. They are buying something that poisons them. If they intend to fill their lungs with poisonous elements, they just might as well inhale all day the polluted air in Metro Manila.
Ribbon, you are right. The world indeed need a man like this one… Eliseo Soriano. We need a light in this darkening age of society.
If you think your IDEA is GREATER than “THE DIVINE CREATOR”, THE big HOW and WHY is your place of domicile, experienced manipulation and your doing nothimg to stop such cruelty and animalistic ideol;ogy which you think you have the BRIGHT idea to do? Well you dont have what it takes to TEACH what the HOLY SCRIPTURES which we Christians believed is RIGHT,HUMANE and approved by time,science and even a child surely will agree… You study first the Bible,apply it in your way of living then when you have done all that is required by GOD in CHRIST,you can come to the Philippines and convince us,by preaching what is SOUNDand FITTING to face a present decaying,corrupt,immoral,materialistic,crooked generation. Think again!
Pro 19:25 Smite a scorner, and the simple will beware: and reprove one that hath understanding, and he will understand knowledge.
it is also wise to do such thing to a scorner..God allows this also. Thanks be to God for preachers of your kind who only get answers to questions from the Bible.
AMEN!!!!!
TO GOD BE THE GLORY….!!!!Thanks be to God….
“It is ridiculous to see that somebody who does not believe in God will use God’s word in casting doubts upon the integrity of the very same person he does not believe to exist.”
The stupidity of this statement is staggering.
The idea is that the words, which you say come from God, show, by their content, that God, as described, DOESN’T EXIST.
So the words were written by MEN.
If God doesn’t exist then the words are not God’s, they are still there though … so where DID they come from?
Think about it.
Happy Evolute
I am an atheist of 14 years of age. I was brought up by Christian parents, but rejected their teachings when I was 6. Despite my age, I am of above average adult intelligence. This correlation between intelligence and Religion is shown on a global scale statistically. I will not get into an arguement with you, as you all seem far too deluded to see sense, but please stop attacking the intelligence of atheists, or at least appreciate the irony.
To all atheist and unbeliever of God (including false preachers)
Only the true and faithful minister of God will debate and discuss against these blasphemers of God to the point of risking his own life for the sake of truth.
Where are the priests, pastors, rabbi nowadays?
They are busy in their business, to be rich;
They don’t care whether God is being blasphemed.
Thanks be to God there is a Bro. Eliseo Soriano, a humble servant, poor man but rich in faith, I am one of his students of the bible, I have learned to be humble in the sight of God and never ever forget God’s existence and help even though we don’t see it physically.
ECLESIASTES 9:15
GOD WORKS SILENTLY WITHOUT BOASTING,
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS NOW, THERE IS A GOOD FUTURE THAT WILL BE UNFOLDED.
GLORY TO GOD, WE WILL REMAIN INDEBTED WITH HIS MERCY
he’s a stupid person!! i dont believe him, im a scientist but i believe i God. TO GOD BE THE GLORY!
AMEN………Thanks Be To GOD
the person who made that video is actually stupid!
why? bcoz he is intelligent.. and that is the only proof that God is not with him. He doesn’t even the purpose of God. And also, we as human people have no right to question God of how He made us. bCOZ THAT’S THE BEST FOR US!!!
i may not be that knowledgeable in the bible, but i believe in the existense of God and that belief would not require such miracle… healing amputees. I have read the site whywontgodhealamputees.com, wherein Jeanna’s rabies miracle was stated. Granting that God would do such miracle, heal amputees, what will they ask next…??? pretty sure that they will ask for another miracle, and another after the other. God is far more intelligent than us, that’s why He won’t allow such thing to happen. The author of the said site is talking to intelligent-educated person, but come to think of it, is he intelligent enough to understand what he is talking about??? I believe in God and never will I entertain such idea that God is an imaginary God.
The issue being discussed is why we don’t see regeneration of limbs in amputees. This is a thinly veiled method of asking the question “why does God perform medical miracles of the visceral type, but never for those afflictions that are externally visible?” God is credited for curing cancer, arthritis, neurological disorders, mental illness, and so on, yet one thing all of these ailments have in common is that they are not visible from the outside. I agree with Mr. Soriano that ailments are not healed by non-scientific means, which means that each time God is credited with a miracle healing, it was in fact the result of a perfectly natural biological process, whether we understand it fully at the present day or not. However, since these events are all produced by inherent capabilities of the human body as Mr. Soriano has pointed out, there is no need to invoke God in these healings. In fact, there is no reason to ask God for healings in the first place, since they are all either available or unavailable based on scientific means. Medical “miracles” are thus achieved by mankind, and not God, as Mr. Soriano correctly states above.
To Brian,
You are wrong to use the soldiers from Iraq as an arguement.
It is not God’s will for these soldiers to get their legs cut off, but that of men. Therefore, it is not proper to make the blind man whom God made to see relative to the soldiers from Iraq who lost their legs.
You know why?
Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man’s mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
God created that blind man. In other words, it was His will.
You know why?
John 9:3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
…That the works of God should be made manifest in him.
Do you see the difference now or are you still blind to see?
John 9:39 ¶And Jesus said, For judgment I am come into this world, that they which see not might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
40 And some of the Pharisees which were with him heard these words, and said unto him, Are we blind also?
41 Jesus said unto them, If ye were blind, ye should have no sin: but now ye say, We see; therefore your sin remaineth.
To Kenny,
Unwittingly for you, the definition of miracle which you said, is not that which Mr. Wordweb wrote. : )
Noun: miracle mirukul
1. Any amazing or wonderful occurrence
2. A marvellous event manifesting a supernatural act of a divine agent
But you said, ” isn’t doing the impossible the definition of a miracle?”. Wrong!
Impossible? What does this word mean?
Noun: impossible im posubul
1. Something that cannot be done
And you are asking, ” Why won’t God heal amputees?”.
This is not impossible. God can heal the amputees. But certainly not in your time, but the Lord’s.
1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
Notice it? WE SHALL BE CHANGED! But if you do not believe in Him, as you all athiest do not, you are surely not one of WE.
I hope you change now if you want to be changed together with WE when the Lord comes.
To Kenny again,
You said, “All Christians must ask themselves at one time or another- why doesn’t the Red Sea part any more? Why doesn’t manna feed the starving children? Why don’t donkey’s speak when mistreated? ”
We are not as dumb as you people are to ask these kinds of questions. These questions just show how ignorant and impertinent you are.
1. The Red Sea parted so the Israelites could serve God away from Egypt. If there is still a need for it nowadays, don’t you think God, who created that sea, can’t do it again?
2. The manna you are was for the Israelites in the desert. Why don’t you ask yourself, why are there obese people on earth while are there ar starving children? Aren’t you greedy athiests to blame for this? I think you could do better than asking God these questions why.
3. Who says the donkeys do not speak? They just do not speak the language you beasts speak. And you are just too beastly to understand what they have to say.
Try again…
To Philip Corbett,
Your surname sounds fast like chevrolet corvette. But your arguement is slow.
We are not attacking the intelligence of athiests. You people don’t have one, I am so sorry to say this. Instead, you should have said, stop attacking the ignorance, stupidity, and impertinence of athiests.
But nonetheless, we will never stop. Your arguements are foolish, suited that of a fool, who said in his heart, there is no God.
Psalms 53:1 ¶> The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.
To Herman Menderchuck,
Bro. Eli Soriano did not mean it like what you said, ” Medical “miracles” are thus achieved by mankind, and not God, as Mr. Soriano correctly states above”. You misunderstood what he said.
What he meant by that was, and I quote, ” I will repeat, God through nature ordain things in this life”. Get that?
Who created mankind? Nature? You mean mankind just sprouted like mushrooms? You may answer, the parents. But where did your parents come from? Who created them? Their parents? How about their parents? From their parents’ parents? and so on? Total stupidity!
How about the inherent capabilities of the human body, to whom do you invoke them? From monkies? Straightward foolishness!
Since God created mankind, thus the inherent capabilities of the human body should be credited to God.
How ungrateful and thankless of you!
All I can say is: Those people in this site - http://godisimaginary.com - are major morons.
Hope they could learn from the replies given to them by Bro. Eli Soriano.
To Jet
Begin here: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_03
Use this as a springboard for your understand of evolution.
Your ideas on evolution are wrong, but if you think the examples you gave are ridiculous (which they are), then consider how preposterous the existence is of something with unlimited power is who has existed forever and came from nothing.
I expect you to do neither of these things, but for your own sake, you should.
First of all, I want to thank the Almighty God for the enlightening answer that Bro. Eli brought to us… AMEN!
To Phillip Corbett, Kenny, Brian, and Herman Menderchuck, I am sorry to say that you guys lack the knowledge to behold God’s wisdom…
To Phillip Corbett -
You said some time ago that you were brought up by Christian parents…
“I am an atheist of 14 years of age. I was brought up by Christian parents, but rejected their teachings when I was 6.”
If we will consult the Bible, your parents might not be the kind of Christian the Bible is teaching, that is why you rejected their teachings. Since you are still young, may you find a time to read, rather hear Brother Eli Soriano’s undefiled teaching based on the Bible, and if it is according to God’s grace, and if you will broaden your understanding of it, surely you will not reject the Bible’s teachings, through the God-sent preacher, Brother Eli Soriano. Just dedicate time and patience for it, and you will gain virtue in your heart.
May the good Lord bless you will understanding heart… =)
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To Herman Menderchuck
“Begin here: http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/0_0_0/evo_03
Use this as a springboard for your understand of evolution.”
I can see clearly that you are an advocate of evolution. But come to think of this, if humans are really from apes, why is it that apes still exist in our time? And why there are humans who look like horses, or dogs? Evolution is just a blasphemous claim of those people who introduced it. It will remain a theory…until the end of times…
My God, the God of true Christians declare in the Bible -
“1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.”
AMEN!
May you be blessed Herman…
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Right, ruby.
To Herman Menderchuck
You know what, the day my teacher back in highschool taught us about the theory of evolution, i vomitted. I cannot imagine that I came from apes.
You see Mr., a theory is different from a law. A law is an accepted fact. Just like the law of gravity. But unfortunately, the theory of evolution, which you are clearly an advocate of, accodring to Mr. WordWeb, is a tentative insight into the natural world; a concept that is not yet verified. That is imaginary. You must be sleeping.
And until now, you are unable to explain it exactly. I remembered my teacher said, “but, there is a missing link”. Imagine that? That is truly imaginary. It is not missing.
It remains a theory. And if you are in your right mind, you should know what a theory is - widely unaccepted until now, except for a few ungrateful and thankless people like you.
Atheist…. oh no… !
but we don’t really want to hurt your feelings. We care, for you, for your souls…
Sometimes people need some serious advice with serious words to awaken their senses, “If they still have”?
But of course, my fore, fore, great, great and the grandest daddy of mine is not an APE!!!
All of the good works stated in the Christian doctrine taught by God to men can bring about peace. I’m sure atheists can’t find anything wrong with regards to this matter (if you think there is, ASK BRO. ELI and he’ll prove you WRONG). But what do atheists do to solve the chaos spreading throughout the world? Cast doubts on believers who try to be good and not be additional chaos-makers? They are truly ADVOCATES of “world peace”. Yeah. You help a lot in maintaining order because you are TOO SMART to belive in Someone who TRULY CARES for the welfare of men unlike your SELFISH way of caring who is only concerned on how to be known to others.
Thank God we have Bro. Eli in these end times!
Jet,
The only fact known to science is that there are no facts in science–only theories.
Take, for example, germ theory. The germ theory of disease is the idea that diseases are caused by tiny organisms that are invisible to the unaided eye. When magnified, we can see these germs in action. We can even watch them as they destroy other tiny organisms that are believed by scientists to aid in the animal’s survival. But this is and will always be a theory.
The reason there is no “germ law of disease” is because scientific debate never ends. The scientific method is an endless process of observation and experimentation. Until every conceivable observation is made and then tested, there is no way for science to deem a subject closed to investigation.
Although it is unlikely that anyone will observe anything to contradict germ theory, there are explanations conceivably unobserved that could supersede germ theory. Right now, for example, the working theory among virologists is that HIV is the cause of AIDS. Their confidence is derived entirely from the fact that where HIV is present, those infected eventually exhibit the signs of AIDS. Where HIV is lacking, however, AIDS never surfaces. This is called a correlation, and it is WAY too flimsy a basis for “scientific law”, whatever that means. Likewise, it may simply be a correlation that every time we find disease we also find these so-called “germs”. There is no way to demonstrate a cause/effect relationship in science to meet our own standards. The result is that every scientific discovery remains suspended in a theoretical state, always open to refutation and revision. That’s what makes science right. It always stops short of saying anything for certain. Everything is subject to debate.
This is interesting. The body can grow back other parts. Perhaps growing new limbs is possible somewhere down the road.
Let’s see… I was called dumb, ignorant, impertinent, greedy and a beast, and all I did was try to explain the point behind the original question. Why is it necessary to attack me personally?
I suppose many Christians feel defensive due to some of the more hostile responses that happen on the internet. I will, therefore, try to assume the best of your character.
The truth is, I know I don’t know everything. I have spent much of my life trying to discover what is true and what is false. I ask honest questions, yet, I am a “beast” because no one has answered my questions (and I don’t mean here).
The fool has said in his heart, “There is a God…because my Grandmother said so.” If the details aren’t important, anything is true.
To All my Friends, especially the Atheists,
No matter what you say, the evidence that God exist is visible and at the same time invisible as the air that you can feel whenever it blows but you can’t see and you don’t know the direction. The things that you see are temporary and those that you don’t see are eternal and everlasting. The very moment that we have life and all the creatures live because there is God that liveth and giveth life. If there is no God that live there is no life and all that we see around us that we most of the time get benefits don’t exist. Why not try these friends to believe and to follow God’s Words and Teachings in the Bible and afterwards see the results after sometime. There are many striking results that you will find, feel and experience if you follow diligently, because your brokenhearted heart is healed, your infirmities cured, your hope is restored and your worries and sorrows disappeared and nowhere to be found. Last but not the least and most important your soul will find peace, happiness and contentment in living in harmony with God’s Will. This is a true confession of a non-believer who searched a considerable time of his life in finding the TRUTH that really set man free. May God Bless us all.
With due respect, I think we’ve failed to adequately answer GII’s essential question, which could be restated thus: If God were indeed all-powerful, all-wise, and all-good, as theists believe, then how come He doesn’t heal the suffering? The mere fact that benefits of a sort exist in other areas of human health and life simply doesn’t remove the fact that undeserved pain exists in a universe ruled by the Most High; and worse, I fear, the answer given here treats the question as irrelevant and the questioner as stupid, which they are not.
Brother Soriano, I respectfully recommend that you read the Book of Job, C.S. Lewis’ Problem of Pain, and John Paul II’s Salvifici Doloris. Perhaps you can’t take the question seriously because you’ve never had doubts, for which I envy you, but I think a humane answer needs to respond to the kind of pain and doubt that makes both the believer and the unbeliever ask “why”
Some people doubt the integrity of God.
They did not know what are they doing.
2Peter 2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
To Indignus #42
Please understand the simple reason behind suffering unless the faith of man 1) faith is under test like Job are the fruits of wrong doings as 2) we reap what we have sown.
For example Wars why it happend please refer to James 4:1~10:
From where do wars and fightings among you come? Is it not from this, from your lusts which war in your members? You desire, and do not have. You murder, and are jealous, and cannot obtain. You fight and war, yet you have not because you ask not. You ask and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you may spend it upon your lusts. Adulterers and adulteresses! Do you not know that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever desires to be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. Do you think that the Scripture says in vain, The spirit that dwells in us yearns to envy? But He gives more grace. Therefore He says, God resists the proud, but He gives grace to the humble. Therefore submit yourselves to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw near to God, and He will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, sinners; and purify your hearts, double-minded ones. Be afflicted, and mourn and weep. Let your laughter be turned to mourning and your joy to heaviness. Be humbled before the Lord, and He will lift you up. (Jam 4:1-10)
Now, you may ask the amputees which maybe victims then you can refer to any of the 2 (1 &2). You may ask about the children and the innocent being killed in a catastrophe and murdered by the evil acts of other evil people I think your mind is not broad enough to understand the Works of God because most of the sufferings in this world are just the fruits of man’s wrongdoings and if man will not stop it will lead to the total destruction. I tell you only evil people suffer not the good nor the children nor those innocent of sins even they die because they have nothing to answer before God. In the eyes of the evil they consider them to suffer but for God it is His delight please refer to Isaiah 57:1~2:
The righteous one perishes, and no one lays it to heart, and merciful men are taken away; no one cares that the righteous is taken away from the face of evil. He shall enter into peace; they shall rest in their beds, each one walking in his uprightness.
(Isa 57:1-2).
Indignus the mind of God is much higher than that of man please read Isaiah 55:8~9: For My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor your ways My ways, says Jehovah. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.
(Isa 55:8-9) and Ecclesiastes 7:24 That which is far off and exceedingly deep, who can find it out? (Ecc 7:24)
Indignus and all the other unbelievers I can only advise you to read, understand, obey and believe the Words of God in the Bible and ask for Wisdom from God to comprehend most of His Works and Ways please read James 1:5~8:
But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and with no reproach, and it shall be given to him. But let him ask in faith, doubting nothing. For he who doubts is like a wave of the sea, driven by the wind and tossed. For do not let that man think that he shall receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, not dependable in all his ways. (Jam 1:5-
Once you acquire Wisdom given by God through your perseverance then you will understand the reasons and meanings of many things and happenings how and why they happend. You will be more wiser and once you have done then share to all that they may also acquire. I am telling these because I was once like many but I searched diligently to find the meanings of things and God have been so merciful and kind to give me the most wonderful gift of Wisdom that He is the only One that can give. I tell you, man without the help of God cannot do any good thing. The Praises, the Glory and the Honor are always be to God. Amen
I wanted to punch my computer monitor while reading about that stupid writing blindly telling people that God is imaginary, using the world “rationalism and delusion” redundantly. How can these people so impertinent to oppose something they do not understand!
But then when I’ve read Bro. Eli’s intelligent, logical, and most credible answers scientifically and biblically, my eyeball almost popped out and with my mouth-opened I almost drooled. Haha!!! I’m so grateful that Bro. Eli is here to disprove those Bible critics and ungodly people.
Shame on you author of God is Imaginary! Our Bro. Eli is here!
Mr. Herman Menderchuck,
Can you explain to me everything that has existed thousands of years before your existence? And how about what will happen after you die? Explain to me everything, tell me that you know everything that occurs on earth (which I know you don’t); then you might move me to believe that God doesn’t and did not exist (which is very impossible).
Now name all the galaxies in the universe and tell me who created them. You people are the one devising an escape by saying that ALL ARE MERE PRODUCT OF ACCIDENT! And with that, you claim yourselves to be intelligent. Explain Darwin’s theory of evolution right into our very faces, and tell us that it is now a fact and a proven claim, which in fact is still a THEORY.
Oh, oh! Tell us who measured the distance of the earth from the sun and who made the earth’s path so as not to move closer or farther from the sun, but is revolving around it in its perfect circumference. I would be so interested to hear it from you. Was it measured with a ruler devised out of your brilliant stupidity? Or God did with all His magnificence?
If there are things that you see but is beyond your capacity to explain, how stupid are you to disprove the things that is beyond human’s sight, understanding, and intelligence? You people claim that you are SOOOOO intelligent to understand everything as if telling all of us here, who has learned to humbly subject ourselves under the power of our Creator, to be foolish and stupid.
Now, we don’t claim that we understand everything, for it is commanded by our God in the Bible that we must be humble, as it is stated in Prov. 27:2 -
Let another man praise thee, and not thine own mouth; a stranger, and not thine own lips.
- but we are not as moron as you are, atheists, to blatantly mock the God who knows everything that we, men, doesn’t know.
Well, I can’t blame you if you don’t know these. It’s just a result for you not believing the Bible and the Almighty God.
Better read more of Bro. Eli’s posts so to be enlightened.
Mr. Phillip Corbett (from comment #19),
“Despite my age, I am of above average adult intelligence.”
Whoah! We’re scared!
“I will not get into an arguement with you, as you all seem far too deluded to see sense…”
No, argue with us, that’s where the real battle must begin. State your argument and we, with the leadership of Bro. Eli will disprove all your impertinent and self-devised beliefs and ideas.
Prove your so-called intelligence, atheists! Don’t be intelligent and yet cowards! Bro. Eli is here for a debate even online!
This is Masked Rider Den-O again saying, “Ore, sanjyo!”. To all unbelievers who scoff at the teachings of the Bible, courtesy of GOD and Son, well then, SONS of SATAN, you are all baka saru-tachi!!!! It’s true because you said it yourselves! Do you guys think that GOD made them like that for nothing! The answer is NO! Why? HE made that person to be disabled because he wanted us to be inspired by that person who, despite his abnormality, can still smile and fight his battles ’till the end! Look at the boy in the picture. Even though he has abnormality in his arms, he still has the guts to participate in the tournament and he don’t care whether he wins or loses. That what I call a real MAN. MAN OF GOD that is! Because it takes a terribly huge amount of faith in GOD and to himself to even show up to that race. Why don’t we take Helen Keller for example. Even though deaf and blind, she overpowered her disability and became a person with an “eyeless sight”. Take that, doubt. You too, lack of faith in GOD and self. So, if they can overcome their limits and introduce new “techniques” in battle, we can do it too, through GOD and Jesus. To all, children of GOD and yes, it also include you! Remember that, GOD without man is still GOD. Man without GOD, is… NOTHING!!!!!! To all, Take care and GOD BLESS!!!!!! Sayonara!
To Mr. Alfredo #44
Thank you for your response to my comment (#42). Let me clarify here, however, that I, too, gratefully (and unworthily) rejoice in the mercy of God through Christ; and that I am writing from the perspective of a former atheist who remembers how it was to live in a cosmos that is all space without light, and who desires that atheists be ministered to in a more effective way. My comment was thence made not to question faith in God but to propose that we change the manner by which we defend His works; for I think that there were 2 problems with Mr. Soriano’s method, however much I do agree with his conclusions.
First, the answer unfortunately, and perhaps unintentionally, manifests a tone of polemical disdain, beginning with the title itself. It tries to make the questioner feel unwelcome and foolish for asking a question about God, which we may not do; as Christ He reserved His woes for the self-righteous who, though they gave tithes, disdained the humble publican. We must not forget that non-believers’ questions must be respected, even if we ourselves have never asked them, and they must be answered in a spirit of humility and sympathy if our answers are to be heard, and not rejected by those like Phillip Corbett (#19) who might have responded positively to a more responsive and less “shotgun” approach.
Second, Mr. Soriano spoke what, to an atheist, is unintelligible language, like Greek to the average Frenchman. In discoursing with non-believers, we cannot simply say “you’re wrong” and cite Scripture for our purpose, for to an atheist, as I was, an argument from Scripture coupled with a peremptory command to believe is simply incomprehensible. Rather, we must explain the truth in a language that can be understood in mind and heart by those with whom we are in conversation, even those who don’t yet share the Christian Faith. Remember how, when the Apostle Paul was brought to the Sanhedrin, he spoke in eschatological language and thus obtained the sympathy of the Pharisees; and how, when in philosophical Athens, he spoke in metaphysical terms of the God “in Whom we live, move, and have our being”?
In sum, I think that Christians can better minister to non-Christians if they begin discourse not as though they were separated by an impassable chasm, but from within their common situation as fellow-journeyers. For in truth, we all walk in fear and trembling, seeing darkly as through a looking-glass; and the Christians’ only advantage is that they have God’s hand to lead them, and know that it is He Who works in them. Besides, if Christ Himself took on the form of a slave to bring us to God, then, as Christians who “put on” Christ, should we not also descend from our pedestals and “eat and drink” with those who need the physician?
God bless you, Mr. Alfredo, and, again, thank you for the response to my comment. I’ll re-read the verses you pointed out.
It’s great to see Christians brothers addressing these types of issues. Most Christians just ignore them. As 1st. Peter 3:15 says ” Always be prepare to give an answer to everyone who ask you to give the reason for the hope that you have, give it with meekness and fear” Christians need to be prepared to deal with these types of questions. Non-believers do have valid questions. Many of them are honest and are searching for answers. Many of their questions are very good. We Christian need to be prepared to give them the answers. Christians need to know that our faith, or our belief system as non-believers would call it. Is based on historical and present FACTS. Not fiction or theories like the Darwinian Evolution. With all due respect for the pastor. I did not see a DIRECT answer to the question. The question was Why Wont God Heal Amputees? The following will be of help. On Google search engine. I typed “answer to God is imaginary” There, I believe on the 2nd. or 3rd page is a blog website for “OCTAVO DIA” Read it. This brother’s answers are very helpful.
I also want to comment about the spirit of hate I felt on some comments and remarks I read above. Let us not forget that God loves us so much. He sent his Son to die for us. Let’s share the hope we have in us, to non-believer with love, respect, understanding and compasion. Just as 1st. Peter 3:15. says. Other Bible translations say it this way:
Be prepare to give an answer…….
****with modesty and respect
****in a gentle and respectful way
****in a humble and reverent manner
****Yet argue gently and respecful way
****But courteously and with due reverence
This is how our heavenly father wants us to share his love to others.
This site can’t possibly be serious. What kind of christian attacks others and calles them names such as stupid? When people fail to respond with an acknowledgement of the worth innate in each of God’s created people…..its time to hang our heads in prayer. I’m really surprised and saddened by the attitudes displayed here. Take care and may God continue to open each of our eyes and hearts that we may respond to His calling more each day, that His will would be done, on earth as it is in heaven. May His Kingdom Come!
I appeal to all Christians and non-believers alike to follow the Golden Rule:
Do unto others what you want others do unto you. Every one is entitled to his or her own opinion.
just my two cents
Bro. ELi, when i’ve seen this video, with aLL the 10 “STUPID” questions, i reaLLy feLt irritabLe…
i just can’t make myseLf beLieve the things said there…
i am truLy happy that a GOD-sent preacher Like you exists… thanks be to GOD for the wisdom he gives you that you may answer the questions which haunts our minds…
we hope and pray that you be given a Longer Life, so that a greater number of peopLe wouLd hear the teachings from the bibLe…
TO GOD BE THE GLORY!!!
I say AMEN too.
To all d commentators of this site,
I do believe dat Bro.Eli knows wat he is saying and dat he is guided by God thru d Bible. He can feel if one is indeed looking for d truth or just trying to discredit d bible.And he must have seen dat d author of dat website “godisimaginary” is indeed just doing so.
For someone hu have understood d mysteries of d bible I do believe dat he understoods d kind of questioning dat people does.Whether it be real or just to raise a debate.
As for miracles,it is not supposed to happen anymore bcoz God have said dat in d last days der wld be false christs and preachers who would try to use miracles to mislead people.Even if it is not real but illusions,der wld be people who wld choose to believe. Mathew 24:24
My fellow christians don’t intend to hurt anyone but we can’t help but feel d same as Bro.Eli bcoz it was also said der wld be a constant battle between good & evil.Even to d very end der wld b a great battle bet good & evil, then God will prevail.
Rev16:14,16.We are not against ur person but against ur belief & ur choosing to side w/someone hu don’t know wat he is talking about.
we can’t blame God for our own mistakes bcoz we were given free will.dat Boy cld have had dat infirmities bcoz of so many reasons.
i think dat i’ve said enough.I hope those hu don’t believe in God wld think twice before dey wld think of such thoughts……
I dont think they are just non-believers.. the video does not question but attack the existance of God and must be dealt with accordingly..
to jet @ comment # 35
- And until now, you are unable to explain it exactly. I remembered my teacher said, “but, there is a missing link”. Imagine that? That is truly imaginary. It is not missing.
If a missing link was found, it will not be “missing” anymore ^_^
Since it seems you are really good in science, My question is, How true and what or where is your basis in saying that the distance of of planet Earth to Sun is 193 miles? please answer and pls.dont erase my question. Thank you
to indigenious
the diferrence of bro.ELI with other pretending preacher of god is simply the holy spirit of god is with bro. Eli while other spirits not of god with pretending ones. just observe voluminous verses everytime bro.ELI answers questions.
Bonjour,
what’s about the ancestors ? No ADD church .. 100 years ago ..and the bible was already there …right? so, no true salvation for the ancestor souls ? There is something which shock me … in my country i have never seen debate on TV between some group ! it can be funny , if u haven’t been ‘brainwashed’ but surely dangerous for some other people .that’s purely power interest for me …
faith must come from your heart, people who think that they are better than their neighboor because they belong to one or another group are incredibly dangerous and naive …. fanatism in anyway sucks !!! if u take a closer look to the history of this world , all wars have began by religion ….maybe god one day will erase this cancer !!
To Eli
This is what you said at the top of this blog:
“Before fire and the advent of cooking, we ate everything raw. All animals in nature eat raw foods. We are the only animal on the planet which cooks its food.”
So now he admits that humans are after all: “animals”.
Does he now suddenly believe in Evolution?
Which he always tries to discredit.
Then he proceeds with his bullcrap pseudoscience disguised as real science.
He said he is not inventing an answer to defend his god.
Then he says:
Al you need is to search on medical journals, especially, regarding alternative medicine.
“Why especially alternative medicine”. and not conventional medicine.This is a very dangerous suggestion.
It can even kill you!
A lot of people make money out of selling unregulated, not-scientifically proven medicines. such as what eli is advocating.
which means:
1 go to a doctor, especially a quack doctor.
2. don’t buy a doctor-prescribed medication, but take this magic pill,”trust me it works”.buy it from (who knows?)
It is true that the body heals itself.
But some are also what we call placebos.
Search the internet about the placebo effect.
Do not even bother about “alternative medicine” which is unscientific and superstitious, and most of all unregulated.
“noni juice” <<< remember this!
http://noni.worldwidewarning.net/index.php
I’m sure it made a lot of people rich!
about alternative medicines:
http://medjournalwatch.blogspot.com/2007/12/random-reward-may-explain-why.html
To Jet,
you said that:
“a theory is different from a law. A law is an accepted fact.” Just like the law of gravity.It is Obvious you do not have a clue of what you are saying about Science.
Newton’s Law of Gravity has been superseded by Albert
Einstein’s General Theory of Relativity:
Now, objects didn’t cease to fall to the ground while the theories of Newton and Einstein battled it out, the fact of gravity continued to exist, and continues to this day, oblivious to humanity’s attempts to explain and understand it. (And even though Einstein’s theory has superseded Newton’s, Newton’s theory is still taught in physics courses because, in most situations we’re going to encounter, it’s “close enough for government work,” and a lot easier to work with, since it doesn’t require tensor calculus!).
Before Einstein there is another theory explaining gravitation and this is:
Le Sage’s theory of gravitation (this is now discredited)
Albert Einstein made us understand gravity in detail and explained things that Newton’s Law of Gravitation couldn’t account for:”the discrepancy in mercury’s orbit”.
as you can see, a scientific law doesn’t mean the end of the argument. which is what people like you always wanted.
“Theory” in informal usage is different from it’s scientific context.
A scientific theory means:
“a coherent group of general propositions used as principles of explanation for a class of phenomena.
A scientific theory to stay as a theory must be supported by a large volume of evidence!.
Such is The Theory of Evolution through Natural Selection
This Theory continues to get stronger to this day since it was first published in 1838.
New discoveries in science,archaeology and molecular biology(DNA).all of these disciplines have the power to discredit the theory, But all of them supported Darwin’s Theory.
A man’s ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death.
-Albert Einstein
Is a miracle really a measure of God’s Greatness?
Is this what you are really looking for in order to believe?
Are you still willing to serve the Lord you’re God eventhough everything is taken away from you?
A person’s limited condition doesn’t mean he or she is suffering. A lot of people with disability can still do normal things. The abundance of an arm or a limb doen’t restrict one from living life. Miracles of God now a days can be seen through people, who decides to take on life’s challenges, even with these though circumstances.
It’s up to the person weather or not he/she waits for God to give him/her a miracle. Or instead be used by God as a miracle for others, by showing that physical disability is not a limitation of one’s self.
Miracles is not used by God to convince someone of his existance. Thou shall not test thy God. Miracles of God are of the unseen through the worldly eyes. They will not see that the fact that they are breathing is a miracle of God. We should all be thankfull for this.
I understand that a lot of you, beacause of you’re passion.
Really want to prove to those people that they are wrong and in the end saying stuff that can further aggrivate things.
It is futile to use darkness to take away darkness, our hurtfull word (as i might say) won’t solve anything. But let us use light in order to drive away darkness. Let us discuss things and stop the bickering.
Regardless of what they believe in, in the end it is God who will judge thier fate. For he looks at the heart. So who are we to judge them, let us leave it to God’s perfect plan.
As one of the comments said, “You can’t just say that the wind exist, words alone are not enough. You have to feel it in order for you to say that it is real”. I think that is also the same in this situation. Let us just not say “God exist”, let them feel that God exist.
^_^ thats about it. I just want to share my opinion.
God Bless to All
#50
Amen
#49 I agree
^_^ sorry reading comments backward. I thought every comment was just going back and forth. I skipped a lot of them. This is the last one. :p
#44 This is crystal clear. Amen.
T_T definitely the last one….
You could check also check this blog by Bro. Eli.
I think this is related.
http://esoriano.wordpress.com/2007/07/27/perfect-justice-in-gods-perfect-time/
The Topic of this blog should be changed to:
“An Impertinently stupid answer to 10 intelligent,sincere and honest questions.”
Another question:
Why is it a problem for religious people that; “humans descended from apes”.
yet not have a problem of;
” humans coming from dirt”.
-which do you think is more probable?
Now Think!,
I assure you all, It’s alright to think.
Please answer honestly (no scientific garbage please)